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YoursMistress -> RE: Adware Problem (2/1/2009 11:04:17 AM)

You may need to go to a previous system restore point.  I got hijacked (not unlike some threads I know) and had to do that to predate the infection. 

yours




blacksword404 -> RE: Adware Problem (2/1/2009 12:28:04 PM)

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I think the best thing though would be to pry 80 bucks loose from your budget and spring for a copy of Kaspersky Internet Security Suite. My system's never been cleaner since I bought it last year. For years, I'd been using AVG anti-virus and a tandem of Lavasoft Ad-Aware and Ewido Anti-Spyware, along with a Zone Alarm firewall, and thought I'd been running a pretty safe system. An hour after I installed Kaspersky, I found viruses and Trojans that had been on my hard drive for weeks, and in one case, a virus that was 6 years old. Zone Alarm let 'em through, and Ewido, AVG, and Lavasoft failed to find them. Considering how much money I move around in my bank accounts and brokerage accounts on these computers, that 80 bucks for Kaspersky may have been the smartest money I ever spent.


Well I will have to check into that. I don't have any sensitive info on here but it's still good to upgrade when you can.



I think kaspersky can be tried 30 days for free.


Is it worth the money? I bought mcafee about 5 years ago and if i ever see those guys I got some wood from Louisville for them.




cjan -> RE: Adware Problem (2/1/2009 1:37:42 PM)

Malwarebytes. Nothing like it.

http://www.malwarebytes.org/




Marc2b -> RE: Adware Problem (2/1/2009 1:56:06 PM)

Okay folks I'm giving the Ad-Aware a shot.  We'll see how it goes.  Fingers crossed.




came4U -> RE: Adware Problem (2/1/2009 2:01:31 PM)

Don't forget, once removing any adware from an anti-adware program, completely remove it from your system.

Often, adware removal tools are adware themselves.




SilverMark -> RE: Adware Problem (2/1/2009 2:02:31 PM)

WebRoot works great for me!!!!!




Sanity -> RE: Adware Problem (2/1/2009 3:27:46 PM)


McAfee sucks. I ran McAfee last night after going to bed (I guess Marc's post was a reminder of how important vigilance is) and it found a few questionable cookies. Then I ran Adaware this morning right after I woke up and it found a fairly serious Trojan that McAfee had missed.

Oh - and thanks for the reminder, Marc!

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Is it worth the money? I bought mcafee about 5 years ago and if i ever see those guys I got some wood from Louisville for them.




Marc2b -> RE: Adware Problem (2/2/2009 7:29:31 PM)

Okay, I got the free version of Ad-Aware and did a full scan.  It found quite a lot of shit.  I'ts only been a day but so far so good - the problem seems to be gone.  Time will tell. 

I can feel my blood pressure going down already.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.




TheBanshee -> RE: Adware Problem (2/2/2009 7:44:50 PM)

I think I'm convinced its the anti-virus software manufacturers that proliferate the viruses that keep them in business.  Think about it, if you were in marketing - would you advertise in such a way that totally makes people so crazy? 

Hope your computer gets cleared up. 




Marc2b -> RE: Adware Problem (2/2/2009 8:09:00 PM)

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I think I'm convinced its the anti-virus software manufacturers that proliferate the viruses that keep them in business.


I do know that there are scam anti-virus programs out there.  About a year ago I had not one but two anti-virus ads popping up on me telling me that my computer was infected and I had to – ABSOLUTELY HAD TO! – buy their product to solve the problem.  It’s the oldest scam in the book: create the problem and then sell the mark the solution.  In that case I took my computer to a repair shop.  It cost me eighty bucks which was why I was keen to avoid that this time. 


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 Think about it, if you were in marketing - would you advertise in such a way that totally makes people so crazy?


I’ve wondered that myself.  The ads for weight loss, balding cures and hot chicks that want to meet me (really? hot chicks want to meet me?  They don't even know me!), etc are usually fly by night operations, which is why I was so surprised to see Pep Boys in the mix.  If Pep Boys authorized this then it is a total backfire – they have royally pissed me off!




FirmhandKY -> RE: Adware Problem (2/2/2009 11:03:48 PM)

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which is why I was so surprised to see Pep Boys in the mix.  If Pep Boys authorized this then it is a total backfire – they have royally pissed me off!


If I were Autozone (for example) and wanted to get people pissed off at my competition, I might consider running an ad or two for Pep Boys with some of the malware advertising vendors ...  [:D]

Firm




JustDarkness -> RE: Adware Problem (2/3/2009 12:00:08 AM)

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Is it worth the money? I bought mcafee about 5 years ago and if i ever see those guys I got some wood from Louisville for them.
 I personally always go for Eset Nod, Kaspersky or Avira.Those score always pretty well in the antivirus test.http://www.av-test.org/I never buy packages that include firewalls. Firewalls I prefer in hardware (the router) instead as software. McAffee is soemtimes install on families pc's but I find the packages so huge.  ps... G-Data antivrus is pretty good too. Not sure if it is available outside Europe...it uses 2 antivirus engines.   
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I think I'm convinced its the anti-virus software manufacturers that proliferate the viruses that keep them in business. 
most virusses are either made from packages that allow you to build your own virusses or with the intent to make your pc in to a bot to help in a spam network.The last one is very popular and you hardly notice them.




JustDarkness -> RE: Adware Problem (2/3/2009 12:11:23 AM)

What comes in mind you can also use Host files and blacklists to prevent spam/adware/virusses.There are forums in which people collect ip adresses and gather them in lists. These lists are scanned with every connection your pc makes. Protowall and the other is peerguardian. (google for it) for host fileshttp://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm




ThatDaveGuy69 -> RE: Adware Problem (2/3/2009 12:15:57 AM)

I spend 1/2 my day cleaning virii* from laptops, each and every one of which has Symantec installed.  Worthless POS!  When Vundo started showing up I found the only thing to really clean it is Malwarebytes.  The have an excellent free version and it really gets the job done!

Best of luck!

~Dave
*Sad but true: the plural of virus is virii.




JustDarkness -> RE: Adware Problem (2/3/2009 12:21:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDaveGuy69

I spend 1/2 my day cleaning virii* from laptops, each and every one of which has Symantec installed.  Worthless POS!  When Vundo started showing up I found the only thing to really clean it is Malwarebytes.  The have an excellent free version and it really gets the job done!

Best of luck!

~Dave
*Sad but true: the plural of virus is virii.

 I have mallwarebytes for the same reason as you...I hate...hate..fcking hate Vundo..lolAntivirus + malwarebytes are always running together with a hardware firewall. Important is to install them first afther you install the OS




TheBanshee -> RE: Adware Problem (2/3/2009 7:27:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDaveGuy69

I spend 1/2 my day cleaning virii* from laptops, each and every one of which has Symantec installed.  Worthless POS!  When Vundo started showing up I found the only thing to really clean it is Malwarebytes.  The have an excellent free version and it really gets the job done!

Best of luck!

~Dave
*Sad but true: the plural of virus is virii.



the plural of virus is viruses.




virus vi·rus (vī'rəs)
n. pl. vi·rus·es
  1. Any of various simple submicroscopic parasites of plants, animals, and bacteria that often cause disease and that consist essentially of a core of RNA or DNA surrounded by a protein coat. Unable to replicate without a host cell, viruses are typically not considered living organisms.
  2. A disease caused by a virus.

The American Heritage® Stedman's Medical Dictionary
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OrionTheWolf -> RE: Adware Problem (2/3/2009 7:49:17 PM)

You are correct when speaking of a virus organism. Virii is actually an incorrect usuage of latin, started when virii first started to hit computer networks. It has since been used enough to become it's own technical term when speaking of more than one computer virus. While not official in a dictionary yet, it does appear in many technical papers, and even has it's own entry in wikipedia and a few technical jargon sites.

There is actually no different spelling for virus in latin or a few other languages but in english is usually made plural by adding the "es". In the computer industry the spelling will often depend on the editor or proof reader for the paper.

Viruses is more acceptable than virii though.

Thought you would want to have more thorough information since you wanted to correct someone else.







katushka -> RE: Adware Problem (2/3/2009 9:38:44 PM)

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Any suggestions?


Just one. Buy a Mac [;)]





DMFParadox -> RE: Adware Problem (2/3/2009 11:04:22 PM)

A mac is not an answer. What people don't usually figure out is that you don't need a virus/trojan/whatev to hack a mac; it's easy enough to just get root access and use the machine's own software to do what you want. This fact as you can guess skews the statistics on malicious attacks somewhat. Bad things happen on macs and there are no signs to figure out what's happening other than a fever and coughingIt's like having AIDS before they discovered the retrovirus. It is fucking annoying as hell. Same goes for a lot of different Linux distros, which is a category Macs fit into more and more. And my company, which relies on Macs for our network and data storage, has regular failures and frankly baffling wierdness happen all the damned time. So I'm not armchair quarterbacking.

Still, I'm not here to get religious. A mac can be secured if you know how. A mac is neither better nor worse than a PC these days, for security or any other given quality; the only real difference imho is the TCO and personal comfort, both of which are factors that Apple and its competitors have no real control over. The playing field is far to complex to make simple value judgements.

Now as for Windows security, I AM religious. Symantec must go. Do not want. Failure antivirus is fail. Same goes twice for Mcaffee. If you use Mcaffee, I spit on your mother.

I use Avast. When it fails, I install Kaspersky to troubleshoot and then uninstall it and go back to Avast as soon as possible. I don't do this because of price point, I do it because Avast is truly a superior product for day-to-day protection, and Kaspersky is like an overbearing cop; good to have when you're in trouble, but not somebody you want to live with (if you've ever used it, you know what kind of nuisances I'm talking about). I do NOT use spybot, adaware, or anything like. I DO use Scotty. I do NOT use windows firewall. I DO use ActiveArmor firewall. I do NOT use IE OR firefox for my day-to-day browsing, I use Maxthon and Flock--which are just different enough to throw off my scent a bit if I'm on a website that has a hidden exploit. When I suspect I've been hit, I use CCleaner and Glary Utilities to see what's in my 'dead' spaces and delete it, which is good for maintenance anyway. If I see quirky browser behavior I use HijackThis!. If I've been trojan'd, I open up Opera (which for some reason always works even when my laptop is barely more than a brick) to google my active processes and Scotty/HijackThis logs until I find out what's happening to me. There are free forums where real experts will help you if you can't dig out the virus yourself.

Restore points are... questionable. I use those if I've installed benign software that destabilizes my system; I DELETE restore points if I've been hit by a virus, because they're usually one of the first things to get corrupted.

I've never lost to a virus yet, and I manage to keep my nose clean despite being obligated to frequent shady parts of the web on a daily basis as part of my job.




Aneirin -> RE: Adware Problem (2/3/2009 11:05:54 PM)

These work for me and they are all free ;

Spybot search and destroy ,run first, always immunise

A 2 free, run next

Superantispyware, next

Malwarebytes, recently thanks to JustDarkness

Anti virus is AVG free with the resident scanner set to alert me every time a tracking cookie starts up, I run AVG scan every day and the full slow scan once a week in safe mode.

Also if I am suspicious of something being on the comp that the rest is missing, I run Housecall, an online scanner from Trend Micro.

I also use Firefox with the CS lite add on and always use CrapCleaner when I close the browser or finish any work. Any security files, finance and such, I shred  with Eraser never simply delete.

Probably severe overkill, but maintenance day, it is run just to make sure my system is reasonably clean, clean and trouble free enough to use.

The next malware to kill is MS Vista home basic and upgrade to XP PRO.






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