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RE: The final step for my slave - 2/2/2009 6:05:46 AM

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*blushes*

I try to avoid things that are just going to make my want to punch someone in the head a bunch of times. And having person A tell person B that person B is wrong about their sexuality because they would even consider under any circumstances doing X, well that is sort of a pet peeve. and really, thanks for being so open about your reasons. It gives me a new avenue for understanding a dynamic i can not fully experience.

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RE: The final step for my slave - 2/8/2009 7:04:48 AM

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What do you do if the sub enjoys sucking dick more appealing than being with you...lol

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RE: The final step for my slave - 2/8/2009 9:37:09 AM

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Have you tryed the hypno mp3. I have a few and there really good if you listen to them before bed.

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RE: The final step for my slave - 2/8/2009 10:53:07 AM

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What do you do if the sub enjoys sucking dick more appealing than being with you...lol

Well if that happens and they are enjoying it too much, then you just force them to STOP
enjoying the cock sucking.
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RE: The final step for my slave - 2/8/2009 3:47:16 PM

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I'm just here to recap.

The best thing that has worked for Me is the introduction of either a phallic shaped plug or strap on for oral play first. Get them used to something of the approximate size and shape for them to use their mouth on. Since I use this more for My personal enjoyment, rather than humiliation, I try to do a lot of verbal encouragement. I'll tell them how good they look doing it, how much it's turning Me on, etc. I do instruct them to use their mouth on the object the way they like to be sucked themselves. This actually serves two purposes. It helps them around the barriers in their own mind, plus I get "hints" of the types of technique they like for themselves to be used later.

LOTS of encouragement, both during and after play. How pleased I am with their behavior, what it does for Me. If they are the humiliation type, I play with that as well, but to a lessor degree. Always be careful in these areas.

Moving up to the real thing is a big step above whatever object you've introduced. Remember there are mental obstacles to get past. The first time is always the most difficult for the boy, so make sure you are well in tune with his mental state. Reinforce those same things that you did while him orally manipulating the object. Keep letting him hear your voice during the endeavor.

Oh, also, I would agree that gay males aren't your target for an additional player. I find Dominant males to be a better pool.

Best of luck. Thanks for the happy thread!

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RE: The final step for my slave - 2/8/2009 3:56:23 PM

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Hello everyone, I was luchy enough to find a slave to my liking and after 1.5 years have him trained to my needs. I have read the blog on Hetero's forced to be Bi. I have discussed this with my pet and he aggrees that if it would make me happy, he would consent to it. I the back of my mind I wanted to make him my bitch. But because of his dominant personality. I was reluctant. Now I am seeking advise to where I can have him trained to perform perfect oral on a male. Any classes given in Tess or etc? I would appreciate the feed back. Thanks

My only suggestion is to make sure that you are both absolutely comfortable with the path and make sure you are safe about it - both sexually and emotionally.

A lot of sub men have this fantasy, and a lot of them have a minor meltdown when they come face to face with it. That said, make sure you have really, really dealt with the emotional side of it well before the time of the act takes place. Explore how it will impact him and change your dynamic. Roleplay it as intensely and realistically as possible, up to and including a "mind fuck" with him blinfolded sucking your strap on before you play a recording of a male voice in the next room and tell him it's time. Do this to measure his reaction and really see if he's ready.

Make sure you pick a man who is understanding, also. You need to have the ability to change your mind if it all goes wrong.

Prepare for the emotional aftermath when your slave may have feelings of ambivalence, fear, questioning his sexuality. Help him through that. In my experience some sub men go through a very intense "bad down period" that can last 10 minutes or 10 days where he has some issue of self dread and ego challenges, but once he separates himself from the act, it's the most mindblowingly erotic thing he has ever thought of. And he wants to do it again.

Heavy stuff - emotionally. Take great care.
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RE: The final step for my slave - 2/8/2009 11:23:28 PM

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I kind of long for the days when "taking the final step" meant renouncing all others, not going out and finding someone new to play with.

I thought she was going to make him/her jump (hopefully not from to high a dive), than come tell us about it.

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RE: The final step for my slave - 2/9/2009 1:35:46 PM

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My question of why is a serious one. I couldn't stomach a lot of that thread so i stopped reading it before I read anything that helped me understand the power of seeing a man suck off another man if man A doesn't show signs of pleasure about the act. Is it his lack of pleasure, the beauty of two men together, the power of giving pleasure to man B, the control over the situation, the sounds and sensations?

How about all of the above? There is not one item on your list that is not hot.

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RE: The final step for my slave - 2/9/2009 1:39:52 PM

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Thank you! I was trying to extrapolate from bits and pieces.

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RE: The final step for my slave - 2/9/2009 7:06:03 PM

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Athena - I have a similar thought on a submissive's gender preferences. If he's in service to Me, he'll perform how he's instructed. His 'pleasure' comes from My satisfaction. I also would find it an extreme turn-on, if it was an activity distasteful to him, which he performed with grace and dignity, for My delight.

That said, I would network in my area to meet bi men. I think a bi Dominant would enjoy the 'instruction' more, but another male who was bi, as a potential long-term playmate would work well also. This would be someone you both meet, socialize with, and like as a human being. It's not a live-in, emotional investment situation, but respect all around helps with the trust issues inherent in this type of dynamic.

Good luck in your search.

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