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KaineD -> How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 9:32:33 AM)

Honestly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvtZUNAzD68&feature=related

Surely Fox must have got a lot of phone calls and letters of complaint after that.

I don't get how he can pull crap like this and still have a job.  There should be people at the doors of Fox News demanding Hannity gets fired.



Cagey18 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 9:39:48 AM)

You're kidding, right?  Hannity's simple-minded viewers eat this stuff up.  Many of them still believe Obama's a mooslim.  As long as Hannity's ratings are decent, FauxNews will continue to renew his contract.

Journalistic standards and truth do not matter for these shows.  Only ratings matter.  And their resultant ability to sell laundry detergent and erectile dysfunction pills.



philosophy -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 9:41:18 AM)

...legally there is no burden on US broadcasters to tell the truth, it's a different regime to the one you're used to. Coming from Belfast, as you do, you're very aware of how religious differences can be whipped up into very real violence. The US haven't had that experience. That concept isn't really in their mass consciousness.
Whether or not one defines Hannity as irresponsible, his words are covered by the US laws regarding free speech. There is no legal burden on people there to speak responsibly. 



MasterShake69 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 9:45:05 AM)


Many people believe Obama is a Muslim. 
Funny how Obama picked up his middle name when the campaign ended.  But it was racist to use it during the campaign.
Obama in his own autobiography talked about reading the Koran in school.  None of my schools ever had us read the Koran.
He became a Christian in Chicago in order to use the Rev Wrights connections.  Does that make him a christian...no?
However I don't think Obama believes in any religion, just himself.
With slick marketers Obama is now a product just Nike. 
Is Obama a Muslim?  In the Muslim world he is still considered one.

quote:

ORIGINAL: KaineD

Honestly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvtZUNAzD68&feature=related

Surely Fox must have got a lot of phone calls and letters of complaint after that.

I don't get how he can pull crap like this and still have a job.  There should be people at the doors of Fox News demanding Hannity gets fired.



Owner59 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 9:49:11 AM)

Why weren`t we told this relevant informant ion BEFORE the election,when it would have mattered.

Now it`s to late!Oh my gawd....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Actually,to the Muslim radicals,Obama is an apostate.But they`re extremists.What would one expect?

To Muslim moderates,he`s a normal guy with good will ,making a good faith effort.

And that`s as it should be seen.

Here, Obama is viewed by the radicals as horrible and fake.But they are the extremists.What would one expect?

And regular,moderate folks see Obama as a good guy making an effort to reach out and make friends we can.

As is should be seen.



Cagey18 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:10:23 AM)

Many people believe Bush was a Cowboy.
Funny how Bush picked up his ranch when the campaign started.  But it was unpatriotic to point it out during the campaign.
He became a Cowboy in Crawford in order to use the Texans' connections.  Does that make him a Cowboy...no?
However I don't think Bush believes in any horses or cattle, just himself.
With slick marketers Bush was a product just Nike.
Is Bush a Cowboy?  In the Cowboy world he is still considered one.  In the rational world we know he's really a frat boy from Connecticut.



kittinSol -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:14:50 AM)

[sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=rofl.gif] . It hurts so good [8D] . 



DedicatedDom40 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:16:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: philosophy

...legally there is no burden on US broadcasters to tell the truth, it's a different regime to the one you're used to.

Whether or not one defines Hannity as irresponsible, his words are covered by the US laws regarding free speech. There is no legal burden on people there to speak responsibly. 


Free speech applies when Hannity stands on his own property and talks.  But when he enters the private property of others, his speech can be limited.  Its no different than Walmart refusing people who want to hand out leaflets to shoppers as they exit the stores. "Free speech" would not apply. In this case, Fox allows him to speak on their property and use their conduit over the airwaves.

The airwaves were always considered government property, and in exchange for private enterprise using those airwaves to make money, they were OBLIGATED to do nonpartisan news.  Historically, news bureaus never were profit centers, instead, they were a 30-minute "public service announcement".  It was always considered a financial loss for TV stations to do the news, but they accepted that loss as a requirement for the right to broadcast over public-owned airwaves. 

At some point (during the Reagan years?), the law was changed to allow news bureaus to become profit centers of their own.  Out went the traditional news gathering techniques. Good, old fashion news gathering that required "shoe leather on concrete" became too expensive, and in came the cheaper paid commentators (like Hannity) on 24 hr news channels giving recycled opinions, rumor and half-truths. Along with this, the private companies have (wongly) started acting more and more like they own the airwaves.

This landscape can be changed (again) with the right political will, and free speech issues would not hinder such change, just like they didnt before.

It would be important to not allow any change back to previous standards to go too far.  The Fairness Doctrine would be a disaster in the making, only because it would include new media venues like the internet along with traditional TV and radio, and as such, it would be a monumental, blundering first step in regulating content on the internet.



kittinSol -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:19:23 AM)

I think Hannity is useful. Like a virus is useful. 



MasterShake69 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:25:28 AM)

Lets get to some facts.
Where did Bush spend most of his life?  TEXAS??  I don't think he has a fake Texas accent ;)
His foreign policy was viewed as being a cowboy.  The cowboy reference typically was used as an INSULT against Bush and not a complement.
Bush believes in Jesus while Obama believes in himself. 

Bush unlike Nike or Pepsi never had a logo.  While Mr Obama has his symbol.   He had become a product for the masses. Obamas campaign mirrored that of the old pepsi campaign a choice for a new generation.




quote:

ORIGINAL: Cagey18

Many people believe Bush was a Cowboy.
Funny how Bush picked up his ranch when the campaign started.  But it was unpatriotic to point it out during the campaign.
He became a Cowboy in Crawford in order to use the Texans' connections.  Does that make him a Cowboy...no?
However I don't think Bush believes in any horses or cattle, just himself.
With slick marketers Bush was a product just Nike.
Is Bush a Cowboy?  In the Cowboy world he is still considered one.  In the rational world we know he's really a frat boy from Connecticut.



kittinSol -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:29:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69
Bush believes in Jesus while Obama believes in himself. 


If Bush believes in Jesus, then so do I.



MasterShake69 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:30:36 AM)

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0519/p09s02-coop.html
yes but the point is he is still viewed as a Muslim.

According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father – even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama's father, and irrespective of the mother's faith – are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Why weren`t we told this relevant informant ion BEFORE the election,when it would have mattered.

Now it`s to late!Oh my gawd....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Actually,to the Muslim radicals,Obama is an apostate.But they`re extremists.What would one expect?

To Muslim moderates,he`s a normal guy with good will ,making a good faith effort.

And that`s as it should be seen.

Here, Obama is viewed by the radicals as horrible and fake.But they are the extremists.What would one expect?

And regular,moderate folks see Obama as a good guy making an effort to reach out and make friends we can.

As is should be seen.



MasterShake69 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:31:38 AM)

i believe in santa but thats another topic  ;)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69
Bush believes in Jesus while Obama believes in himself. 


If Bush believes in Jesus, then so do I.



rulemylife -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:32:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

Lets get to some facts.
Where did Bush spend most of his life?  TEXAS??  I don't think he has a fake Texas accent ;)
His foreign policy was viewed as being a cowboy.  The cowboy reference typically was used as an INSULT against Bush and not a complement.
Bush believes in Jesus while Obama believes in himself. 



So, the son of a wealthy New England family who grew up in northeast prep schools, attended Harvard and Yale, suddenly managed to develop a Texas drawl naturally?

That's interesting, because I've lived in a lot of different places.  Some for long periods of time.  Yet I've never sounded any different.

But that's probably because I don't believe in Jesus.



Cagey18 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:36:57 AM)

Careful you don't believe in Obama, you might sound like a Muslim.



Sanguinarian -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:37:34 AM)

As with any news shows, if it bleeds it leads. The only differences are what exactly is being bled and from whom. 



kittinSol -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:38:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father – even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama's father, and irrespective of the mother's faith – are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period.



The above is, of course, a lie. But don't let truth get in the way of our entertainment, please.



Cagey18 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:45:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father – even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama's father, and irrespective of the mother's faith – are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period.



The above is, of course, a lie. But don't let truth get in the way of our entertainment, please.



Maybe he's thinking of Jews.  All those non-Christian religions, like Judaism, Muslimism, and Catholicism, all start to look alike after awhile.



hlen5 -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 10:54:32 AM)

In order to be born a Jew I thought one had to be born to a Jewish mother.

Hannity is a paler version of Rush. No big surprise. We're going to see a lot more of this stuff within the next 8 (hopefully!) years!



Gwynvyd -> RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? (2/3/2009 11:22:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69


Many people believe Obama is a Muslim. 
Funny how Obama picked up his middle name when the campaign ended.  But it was racist to use it during the campaign.
Obama in his own autobiography talked about reading the Koran in school.  None of my schools ever had us read the Koran.
He became a Christian in Chicago in order to use the Rev Wrights connections.  Does that make him a christian...no?
However I don't think Obama believes in any religion, just himself.
With slick marketers Obama is now a product just Nike. 
Is Obama a Muslim?  In the Muslim world he is still considered one.




The whole middle name use durring the campagin was like a white person calling a black person the N word, or "My Homie" it was used poorly to seperate him from the others.. and to point out his background in the middle east. When he uses it, it is meant as a means to bring together both cultures he has lived in.

As to schools, and the Koran.... Have *you* ever lived in the middle east, or hell.. any where abroad? You do know that other countries do have different main religions yes?

With that other books. The Torah, and Koran, the Bible... they are all pretty standard faire.... One is not better then the other if you ask me. They are all holy books.

When you are schooled over seas that country has a ciriculum.

My having read the Tora did not make me into a Jew... nor did reading the Koran. Hell the mere reading of the Bible does not make one a Christian. Obama's religion is of his chosing.. and if he says he is a Christian then I believe him.  Why is it that these wankers think if you are exposed to any other religion then your religon is at question? Is their own personal faith so weak that reading the texts or living in an area that has a different culture/religon is a damnger to them? I mean come on.

I think it is a good thing to extend a hand out to the jewish, and muslim worlds. It is much better then demonizimg them.. and starting shit simply because they think and believe differently.

It is that thinking that got us into this whole war bullshit.

So what if the Muslim world conciders him a Muslim.. that is their custom. You are concidered to be what ever religion your father is. For life. Does not matter if you convert, or never ascribed to those beliefs yourself. It goes simply by your fathers religon.

~ Another thing is.... Muslims are not the evil people the last 8 years of idiotcy has made it out to be.

they are no different in thier hopes and dreams then anyone else.

People need to get themselves educated a bit more... and stop passing judgements on whole groups of people because they are different and thereby scary.

Gwyn,
Who happens to be Hindu if you wanted to know.



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