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LadyConstanze -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/7/2009 11:02:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lateralist1

Have you thought that getting what you want might not be what you want? If any Domme pro or otherwise gives a sub what they want they are acting.
In my opinion, and I'm sure I will be flamed for it, even if your paying it still should be about what the woman wants.



So you always try to give the sub what you want and never what s/he wants? Well, that seems to be a bit one sided and I don't know many subs who'd come back and want more play if it doesn't meet their needs. Personally I prefer to have people who are compatible and like to take what I want to dish out. It's news to me that I've been acting all the time, I could have sworn I was enjoying myself!




Chgolostnlooking -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/7/2009 9:42:16 PM)

Thanks again to all the comments - I've learned some things from the ideas here and the few emails I've received.

I believe I have to separate myself from my service to a Dom woman and what I'm looking for in a pro-Domme.  The way I met my first Dom woman was thru an ad - I went over and did things around her studio for an hour.  Things just progressed from there.  A whole relationship became of that.

However, I don't think I should have to pay a pro-Domme to clean her place.  I want to be of service, yes - but there are also things in my head that I believe fit the criteria of being of service AND also scratches my own itch inside.  So, respectfully, I will not forget she that helped me get to this point.  And, within reason, if I do want another pro-Domme session I think I'll do it with a few new goals in mind for myself.  I'm quite sure if the Domme doesn't want to do it - if it doesn't suit her or her services, I'm sure I will be told that. 

Thanks.




undergroundsea -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/8/2009 5:17:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Chgolostnlooking

What I want more of is something more "intimate".  Not sex - not something that looks like, feels like or could be in any way be confused with sex.  What I wanted more of was things whispered in my ear.  Threats or promises - it doesn't matter.  What I wanted more of was her hand on my shoulder, squeezing or slapping me depending on what she was saying.  I wanted to feel her body weight against me back.

I got her slapper.  I got her flogger.  Those were good and I appreciated her time and effort.  But, if I wanted to ask her to do something more...   I'm not even sure how to put it into words here?  If I wanted more intimacy.  I wanted her scoldings.  I wanted her hand in my hair and for her to jerk my face up to look at her.  Eye contact. 


I am not convinced at least part of what you describe cannot be had in a professional session. I sense what you say is that the session emphasized the physical whereas you want a greater content of things that stimulate the mind. However, if what you describe leads to development of emotional intimacy (which could happen), it would create a difficult situation for each of you. I sense a personal relationship would suit you more.

Cheers,

Sea




azjojoba -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/9/2009 1:10:07 AM)

If you like that particular pro domme just talk to her about what you want. It's sounds like you want more physical intimacy so be prepared to pay more. 




LadyConstanze -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/9/2009 7:19:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

If you like that particular pro domme just talk to her about what you want. It's sounds like you want more physical intimacy so be prepared to pay more. 


Uhhh, you know it's not like an escort where you say "I'd like to try this and I give you $50 more" - it depends on her limits and to find out what her limits are you got to talk to her. Most pro dommes aren't prepared to change their limits depending on what they get paid.




azjojoba -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/12/2009 4:33:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


Uhhh, you know it's not like an escort where you say "I'd like to try this and I give you $50 more" - it depends on her limits and to find out what her limits are you got to talk to her. Most pro dommes aren't prepared to change their limits depending on what they get paid.


If the money is good enough pro dommes will do anything the guy wants. It's just a matter of how much she wants, and how much he is willing to pay.




Lynnxz -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/12/2009 4:34:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


Uhhh, you know it's not like an escort where you say "I'd like to try this and I give you $50 more" - it depends on her limits and to find out what her limits are you got to talk to her. Most pro dommes aren't prepared to change their limits depending on what they get paid.


If the money is good enough pro dommes will do anything the guy wants. It's just a matter of how much she wants, and how much he is willing to pay.



Az, you've already made it clear that you are too cheap to get a pro domme, where are you getting your information then?




azjojoba -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/12/2009 4:47:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Az, you've already made it clear that you are too cheap to get a pro domme, where are you getting your information then?



I'm not cheap. If I was working for one of those banks that Obama is throwing billions of dollars at, I would spend whatever it takes to buy the best sweeties on this website.

As for my sources of info, I have had a few pros before. I understand the situation.

Let me say that the pros I hired were all sweethearts, except for a few that were ripoff bitches.

All of you pros out there have got to wake up to reality. If you don't lower your prices most men aren't going to be able to buy you. Remember, you are a commodity, and you can only get what the market will bear. Right now the market is weaker than you can imagine.




Jasmyn -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/12/2009 5:17:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

If the money is good enough pro dommes will do anything the guy wants. It's just a matter of how much she wants, and how much he is willing to pay.



There are certainly plenty of pro doms who are not motivated by money.  I've turned down plenty of loaded cash sessions, like the guy who wanted me to use a drug to knock him out and while out put him into bondage so he could wake up in bonds, his motivation, he wouldn't feel his kidnapping was real ...meh, couldn't be arsed with that kind of drama, I am about domination, if you're kidnapped, it's on my terms or fuck off...$5000 was on offer..three prior professional Mistresses had also turned him down.  Or the couple who wanted me to assist the Dom having his sub raped, not my cup of tea, damn there went another $1500.  Or the men who want me to pimp them..there are a core few who call me on a regular basis begging for me to do this, their carrot, supposedly one thats meant to make me moist and all hot for pimping their pimpley a's .. I could have all their earnings ... wah, wah, wah, wah..

Sincere and geuninely subservient men motivate me, not money. 

Consider the reality for others before making ignorant generalisations about professional domination and the plethora of women and men who choose to be pro doms.




Jasmyn -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/12/2009 5:42:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Chgolostnlooking

I can ask here and don't feel as nervous as when I'm standing in front of a living, breathing professional that makes her living from guys like me coming thru the door.  Perhaps on my tenth session with a Domme (her, or others) I'll feel more comfortable.  But on my first session with a pro-Domme, I feel lucky that managed to speak correctly, walk a straight line and remembered where I put my car keys.


Aww boys like you make my life a pleasure ... am so use to living and breathing it, I can forget sometimes just how intimidating it can be for someone to turn up at my dungeon door.  When a guy starts amping for it (a session) months, weeks out before booking, on the day it fills their thoughts, the anticipation, the what ifs, the doubts ..that by the time they get to my door their hyper sensitive and just saying hello can send them into a trembling mess.

Re your session dynamic ..  touching is an intimate gesture (not in an intimacy/emotional sense) but pyshically, grabbing your head and jerking it back to whisper in your ear, forcing your head to my feet to kiss my boots, placing a hand on your shoulder, being close to him .. it's all those things that hammer home and feed submission ... convey's ownership ..of your body, your person .. the fact he is naked and I'm not, again, hammers home his reality.. his body, his person is mine to do with as I wish ..

It's easy to paddle, flog or spank someone.. it's a whole other ball game to crawl inside their minds and control them while doing it.

I use my body physically in sessions/scenes, deliberately, pressing against him, touching him, fondling what I want to fondle .. if it's disconcerting to him, sweet .. my body is right where I need it to be....in his personal space...on my terms, not his.





Lynnxz -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/12/2009 6:23:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

All of you pros out there have got to wake up to reality. If you don't lower your prices most men aren't going to be able to buy you. Remember, you are a commodity, and you can only get what the market will bear. Right now the market is weaker than you can imagine.



I'll keep your expert advice in mind. [8|]




tornaway -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/12/2009 8:03:53 AM)

      I'm not a fulltime pro at all .  But every now and then,  someone agreeable comes along that specifically wants a no-strings session from me , and they are more than happy to pay .   A win-win .
   
    With any new person , I always sit down before the session - with pen in hand , and we talk about all the little details , while I take notes .  Limits , preferences ,  desires, background - all of it .  
 
    Being an affectionate person ,  and only allowing sessions ( totally non-sexual ) with those I favor ,   I have a natural tendency to do the sorts of things you wish you'd had in your session .  Touch and stroke all over ,  pushing up against the sub's back - while they're helpless ,  a firm grasp of hair or neck - perhaps even a well placed bite .  All things to personalize and heat up the experience .     Sweet.
 
  




azjojoba -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/12/2009 3:09:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

I'll keep your expert advice in mind. [8|]



I'm glad to be able to help you. Honey doll, feel free to ask me for advice anytime you need it!




azjojoba -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/12/2009 3:18:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn
Consider the reality for others before making ignorant generalisations about professional domination and the plethora of women and men who choose to be pro doms.



I went to your website. I would recommend that you put some pictures on it. You are very beautiful so use that asset to advertise.




LadyConstanze -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/15/2009 2:05:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


Uhhh, you know it's not like an escort where you say "I'd like to try this and I give you $50 more" - it depends on her limits and to find out what her limits are you got to talk to her. Most pro dommes aren't prepared to change their limits depending on what they get paid.


If the money is good enough pro dommes will do anything the guy wants. It's just a matter of how much she wants, and how much he is willing to pay.



REALLY? Oddly enough most pro dommes have limits, but you wouldn't know since you expect to get it for free and in the hour you can sneak away from your wife...

But whatever you say, obviously you never booked a session with a pro, it would cost money and she would have limits...




LadyConstanze -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/15/2009 2:11:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Az, you've already made it clear that you are too cheap to get a pro domme, where are you getting your information then?



I'm not cheap. If I was working for one of those banks that Obama is throwing billions of dollars at, I would spend whatever it takes to buy the best sweeties on this website.

As for my sources of info, I have had a few pros before. I understand the situation.

Let me say that the pros I hired were all sweethearts, except for a few that were ripoff bitches.

All of you pros out there have got to wake up to reality. If you don't lower your prices most men aren't going to be able to buy you. Remember, you are a commodity, and you can only get what the market will bear. Right now the market is weaker than you can imagine.




Maybe you should start hiring pro dommes and not the girls on street corners...

As for commodity, with that 'tude most dommes will tell you to take a hike, so you're back to street corners. Hey if you can't afford a pro domme, don't go to one, ask your wife to do it, you wouldn't need to sneak around her back then. And try not be too bitter that there are guys out there who possible can still afford them, while you seem to be reduced to complain about grapes that are too sour.

I take it the "ripoff bitches" were the ones who were only willing to dominate you and not willing to sell their bodies...




lobodomslavery -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/16/2009 1:41:22 AM)

Give her a big check. or should i say cheque. Pro Dommes love $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
kevin




azjojoba -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/17/2009 1:36:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Maybe you should start hiring pro dommes and not the girls on street corners...

As for commodity, with that 'tude most dommes will tell you to take a hike, so you're back to street corners. Hey if you can't afford a pro domme, don't go to one, ask your wife to do it, you wouldn't need to sneak around her back then. And try not be too bitter that there are guys out there who possible can still afford them, while you seem to be reduced to complain about grapes that are too sour.

I take it the "ripoff bitches" were the ones who were only willing to dominate you and not willing to sell their bodies...



I have never hired a girl off the street. The thought of doing so has crossed my mind though. Especially if I could find a young virgin.

You are very wrong -- I'm not the least bit bitter that there are guys that can afford to buy the hottest looking babes. If I find a way to get more income I will buy them also. It's so much less hassle just to buy what you want instead of trying to find real women that actually like playing games and having sex.

The rip offs that I refer to are pros that lead men to think they are going to get a fuck, but don't come through. There should be a way to put these bitches out of business. If they say no sex upfront I don't have a problem with them, although personally I wouldn't waste money on them and don't understand why any man would.





Jasmyn -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/17/2009 2:55:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: azjojoba
If they say no sex upfront I don't have a problem with them, although personally I wouldn't waste money on them and don't understand why any man would.


That's probably because you have absolutely no idea about professional domination or more importantly the motivations that lie behind a person wishing to be dominated.   




Lynnxz -> RE: How to get a feeling across to a pro-Domme (2/17/2009 4:05:43 AM)

AZ, if a woman who is leading you to think she will do the full service thing for cash doesn't actually go through with it, I'd think you either grossly misread her ad, or you might want to rethink your hygiene strategy.





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