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FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 3:26:14 PM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		I think that a criminal investigation is very much warranted in this situation, with the latest count of 500+ people who became ill and 8 who died from the contaminated peanut butter. 

"FDA: Criminal probe begun in salmonella outbreak"
 
Friday, January 30, 2009

"ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- The Food and Drug Administration said Friday that a criminal investigation has begun into the Georgia plant linked to a salmonella outbreak.

Stephen Sundlof, director of the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, told reporters that the agency's office of criminal investigation will work through the Department of Justice to develop a case and prosecute if necessary."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/30/georgia.peanuts/index.html

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 3:54:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		heard on the news somewhere they knowingly distributed tainted peanut butter.  if that turns out to be true, someone should face criminal prosecution.
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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 4:04:05 PM   
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"The Peanut Corporation of America had sent 32 truckloads of roasted peanuts and peanut butter to the government in 2007 and 2008. Federal regulators say that the company’s plant in Blakely, Ga., shipped peanut products despite 12 positive test results for traces of the salmonella bacteria."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/07/business/07peanut.html?hp

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 4:17:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Back in August, we had a listeriosis outbreak from one of the MAJOR meat processing plants here in Toronto. There was a massive recall of 243 types of ready-to-eat meat products supplied to stores, restaurants and cafeterias.
20 people died and the company just announced that they will be making settlements with people affected, totalling 27 million dollars.
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/02/03/maple.html

I know they are different stories, but shows our reliance on companies, and we are sposed to trust them... if someone purposefully sent out tainted products, I hope their genitals turn square and fester.
I stopped buying packaged meat back in august.
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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 5:50:52 PM   
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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 6:27:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		       The death penalty should be on the table if these products were knowingly shipped.

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 6:30:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well yes, that is what the Chinese government has done in similar circumstances.
 
The peanut butter was mostly sold in bulk amounts and went to institutions like schools, hospitals, nursing homes, shelters and the like.  I have served and eaten government supplied peanut butter several years ago while doing social work.  It tasted OK and had a long shelf life.

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 8:14:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		     I would argue that it meets the requirements here at home.  Murder for profit.   We don't even have to use the sentence, just put it on the table, dammit.  This seems like it ought to be treated as a capital case.

   Somebody, somewhere in that chain either had the facts or should have, and death was loaded onto trucks.  Trucks bound, as you said, for schools, hospitals, nursing homes and shelters. 

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 8:28:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		You make a great case for capital punishment in this scenario.

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 8:42:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		One difference between conservatives and liberals.

Liberals want good sound regulation ,oversight and prevention as the main check on bad faith businesses.

Conservatives don`t want the heavy hand of gov. burdening businesses with regulation/inspections/oversight/rules etc. and spend half their time fighting those things.

Which leaves the public with law suites(of course after someone dies or gets injured)as the primary check against bad faith players.

Considering that conservatives spend the other half of their energy trying to limit our right to sue,it`s obvious that they are bad faith players themselves.

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/6/2009 8:48:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		yes, it does make a great case for capital punishment.  knowingly shipping tainted products is like randomly firing an automatic weapon into a crowd; this one dies, this one gets hurt, that one gets away with a minor ailment.  they knew where it was going, they knewb it wasn't safe and they did it anyway.  lets feed it to those that decided to ship tainted product. 
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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/7/2009 12:56:50 AM   
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One difference between conservatives and liberals.

Liberals want good sound regulation ,oversight and prevention as the main check on bad faith businesses.

Conservatives don`t want the heavy hand of gov. burdening businesses with regulation/inspections/oversight/rules etc. and spend half their time fighting those things.

Which leaves the public with law suites(of course after someone dies or gets injured)as the primary check against bad faith players.

Considering that conservatives spend the other half of their energy trying to limit our right to sue,it`s obvious that they are bad faith players themselves.
This is a damn good point. Progressives are proactive, "conservatives" are reactive. We want to keep people from dying. The Cons (good pun material, that)  want people to sue after they die.

Damn good point. Yet another reason to despise cons. "Free Markets" are more important than peoples' lives/

I think cons should only be allowed to buy, say, milk with melamine, or Xmas tree lights that spontaneously combust; vehicles that kill them in a 5mph crash, and jalapenos that give them the squirts for a week.

I don't understand why they are so corrupt. I really don't.

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/7/2009 10:37:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		In this case very much so, the company shopped around for inspectors to pass their product after having the same sample  fail an inspection already... back in April they shipped and order to canada that got stopped at our border for being putrid and being contaminated  and then was to be returned but US customed refused to let it back in... US customs notified the company andd arguement lasted till august on what to do with,  where in was finally destroyed.... this company was aware they had problems even back then.... they also had a history of problem under the FDA.....the FDA has to take a hit as well  with regards to responsibility since they knew about the bad shipment to Canada and did not go into the plant then to check things out.

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/7/2009 11:45:23 AM   
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quote:

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In this case very much so, the company shopped around for inspectors to pass their product after having the same sample  fail an inspection already... back in April they shipped and order to canada that got stopped at our border for being putrid and being contaminated  and then was to be returned but US customed refused to let it back in... US customs notified the company andd arguement lasted till august on what to do with,  where in was finally destroyed.... this company was aware they had problems even back then.... they also had a history of problem under the FDA.....the FDA has to take a hit as well  with regards to responsibility since they knew about the bad shipment to Canada and did not go into the plant then to check things out.


The FDA has no recall authority. It has to wait for a company to willingly recall a product. Dumb system that is not working very well, and probably never did. I think companies are becoming less moral. Chasing hard after those profits.

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/7/2009 7:28:12 PM   
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The FDA has no recall authority.


They may not have recall authority but they could have done an investigation of the plant as soon as they knew of the bad shipment...and that is where they failed


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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/7/2009 10:12:17 PM   
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quote:

One difference between conservatives and liberals.

Liberals want good sound regulation ,oversight and prevention as the main check on bad faith businesses.

Conservatives don`t want the heavy hand of gov. burdening businesses with regulation/inspections/oversight/rules etc. and spend half their time fighting those things.

Which leaves the public with law suites(of course after someone dies or gets injured)as the primary check against bad faith players.

Considering that conservatives spend the other half of their energy trying to limit our right to sue,it`s obvious that they are bad faith players themselves.


Illinois, New Jersey, Louisiana, Washington D.C.,  my own state of Arkansas, and New York.  All run by Democrats with absolutely no corruption. 

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/8/2009 3:02:07 AM   
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quote:

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The FDA has no recall authority.


They may not have recall authority but they could have done an investigation of the plant as soon as they knew of the bad shipment...and that is where they failed



That sounds to much like doing your job.

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/10/2009 8:37:27 PM   
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Another plant in Texas owned by the Peanut Corp has been closed in Texas.  And the company president has been called in for questioning by the House of Representatives.
 
 
"WASHINGTON - A congressional committee issued a subpoena Tuesday for the top executive of a small company that allegedly shipped the tainted peanut products responsible for a national salmonella outbreak.

The House Energy and Commerce Committee voted to compel Peanut Corp. of America President Stewart Parnell to appear at a hearing Wednesday, as a wide-ranging investigation focuses on who was responsible for an outbreak that has sickened at least 600 people and may have contributed to eight deaths."

 
"Broader recall possible"
Peanut Corp.'s troubles mounted this week as the FBI raided corporate headquarters in Lynchburg, Va., as well as the Georgia plant. On Monday night, the company closed a second facility, in Plainview, Texas, after its own tests found possible salmonella contamination in some products. None of the products had been distributed to consumers, but the finding raised the prospect of a broader recall."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29125953/

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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/11/2009 5:31:25 AM   
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RE: FDA criminal investigation on salmonella outbreak - 2/11/2009 5:41:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Our lovely state of Georgia and our man in charge of such things the fabulous Tommy Irvin the Commissioner of Agriculture, blew it!....He is about 107 years old and has held his job for about 100 of those years and needs to be run out on a rail!.....The folks who run PCA are guilty of MURDER....

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