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Dark places in ones head - 1/15/2006 10:40:20 PM   
Tine11


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Status: offline 		How is that you get into the dark scary corners of ones mind, so find out what is really their?

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/15/2006 11:52:36 PM   
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Hold the pillow to your face until your life’s snuffed out
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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 12:02:42 AM   
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How is that you get into the dark scary corners of ones mind, so find out what is really their?


One seeks out an understanding professional or someone who is a spiritual teacher with a proven track record for honesty and not greed. Then you are not alone as you traverse the corridors of your mind.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 4:28:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Are you seeking to find whats in your own head, or are you seeking to figure out whats in your P/partner's head?

If its in your own head- any numbe of techniques can be used: meditation, journaling, or hynosis- some who beleive have even worked wih past life regressionist. Then there is always a psychiatrist, or psychoogist.

If youwant to know whats in someone's elses head, you can always ASK. But be forewarned, just because youask, doesnt mean you will get the answer you want. They have the right and option of 1. Answering you honeslty - giving you the answer youwant 2. not giving you the answer you thoughtyou wanted 3. Not answering you at all

Whats in some one else's head is their own business. Respect personal space.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 4:39:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Do you wish to touch someone where it hurts? Where they cry? Usually you need to know someone well before they will give you that key. I think you should only go there when there is a high level of trust.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 5:36:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tine11

How is that you get into the dark scary corners of ones mind, so find out what is really their?

I don't have to get there...it leaps out of me.

To get into someone else's mind, you have to give them time, communicate, read between the lines and provide them an environment where they feel they can and WANT to divulge.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 5:40:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: Tine11

How is that you get into the dark scary corners of ones mind, so find out what is really their?

I don't have to get there...it leaps out of me.




UH OH, I don't have any---you mean these wicked, sadistic, perverse thoughts are supposed to be buried somewhere?

I'm screwed.


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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 6:10:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		My scene fantasies take me there often.

But I made peace with that long ago by remembering that what I think does not define me. What I do does.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 6:15:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am talking of the ones in my head. The ones that just seem to loom, and haunt me.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 6:22:20 AM   
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How is that you get into the dark scary corners of ones mind, so find out what is really their?


I have a feeling that there (not their) is an age distinction to be made here. When I was much younger, the dark corners of my mind were scary. Now, in my 40s with lots of experience, the dark corners are interesting and beautiful. Shining too much light there would only ruin them :)

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 6:23:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tine11
I am talking of the ones in my head. The ones that just seem to loom, and haunt me.

Then is the question "How do you take what's in your head and work them out in real life?"

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 6:34:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I use specific meditations when I do, this and have at least one Lodge Brother with me to help clean up the mass after. For me I’d rather be a woose and not go there and relive far too many painful memories and see things which have been hypnotically blocked from normal memory…. The trip their can be a trip to suicide, psychosis and/or paranoia for some…

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 7:31:49 AM   
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How is that you get into the dark scary corners of ones mind, so find out what is really their?



• Having skills in real communication
• Having an imagination and a truly open mind
• Being self-actualized, past the folkways of what is taught
• Being somewhat "dark and scary" yourself

Fail in any of these areas and you will not find the best sugar.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 8:00:25 AM   
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How is that you get into the dark scary corners of ones mind, so find out what is really their?


The first rule is "don't go in there alone"... much like in the horror movie, where one begs and pleads at the actors on the screen not to go into the basement, or wander down the dark corridor alone.

If you -know- that there are things there that are terrifying and horrible, don't go without someone to support you, no matter what you find.

Make sure that it is someone who will be both willing and able to clean up the mess when you expose whatever it is, and who can help you to put what you find into perspective, so that you don't need to hide it again just to survive.

At one point, I might have recommended professionals for this, but I've since realized that sometimes a professional is constrained by either time or inclination from really caring for the individual who is facing "demons", so what I tell people now is to make sure that whomever you ask, that they are both trustworthy and available for the journey.

One tool that worked miracles for me is a Native American cleansing ceremony called a "sweat lodge"... we were fortunate to have someone trained in care and creation of Inipi through Rainbow Tribe/Rainbow Lodge, and it was an amazing experience, repeated every few weeks year-round... the first lodges were great, and as time came on, more and more of the darkness was gently lit -- not so much that the things that were healthy when shadowed would be ruined, but enough where those things that impaired our growth by hiding in the darkness to attack us when we were most vulnerable could be cleaned away. Now, I do this for others, not with sweatlodge, but through other techniques. Hopefully, I will offer sweat-lodge again (I haven't found land or an existing lodge where I can offer this work to others -- but I haven't stopped looking).

Sweatlodge is only one option...Try many tools, and don't be afraid to say that something isn't working for you -- but don't mistake the discomfort of seeing and hearing things that scare you or aren't what you want to see/hear for "doesn't work"... be honest with yourself as you explore, and eventually, everything that you need to know about your dark and quiet places will be revealed, and those that need to be cleaned will be, with the support of a person or people who are dedicated to helping you through this work.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 8:28:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I found The Mind Parasites, a novel by Colin Wilson very helpful. Not that I was seeking, mind you. It's just that, having found the book many years ago, I find myself often recalling concepts embedded within the story line. What I found most useful was his idea of exploring within while in possession of mental/spiritual tools likely to ensure appreciation and survival rather than fear and death. It was my first exposure to the possibility of going deep into scary realms but then, instead of looking and turning away as instinct would dictate, going still deeper to find the essential "rightness" of my existence. To varying degrees, I use that 'technique' almost daily.

If this seems hopelessly garbled, I apologize. I am still waking up.

Bob

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 8:51:54 AM   
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I'm screwed.


LOL you had me chokng on my pepsi when i read that!

As to the dark scarey places in your head = ) <wicked grin> i've been there and lived there. Yet its amazing some of the things we can be honest about with ourselves and other parts we have to hid from. i know that i probably hide from alot in my own head. Things i dont want to be true. How to get there? You just go. Like i said though, sometimes its hard to be honest with yourself. But you go and be as honest as you can. You have to be able to drop the your Own judgements. Or atleast work around them. = ) Writing can help. Really the key is being honest with yourself. Becoming self aware isnt easy. Sometimes i find its easier to know my own short comings and work from there. Why are they short comings? What created these short comings in myself? i look at my life and the actions i have taken and why i have taken them. What possess me? Another quick trip to those dark places is too look at the unpleasant things in my life and why/how i ended up in those situations. Nothing happens that we do not let happen. Usually though, its not a conscious choice so one must find that unconscious reason. Why? Why? Why? You must keep finding the "whys"


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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 8:52:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tine11

How is that you get into the dark scary corners of ones mind, so find out what is really their?


I guess the right thing to say at this minute is.......are you sure you WANT to get into those places. I know what kind of darkness dwells in me, and not many would want to visit there.

As for you wanting to seek them out. First you must know why they are there, and from where they come from. Then you have to be prepared to face them one at a time, again, and again. Then,you have to accept it. Fully and without fear. Then, you have to be prepared to embrace it.




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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 9:12:17 AM   
Tine11


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Status: offline 		Yes IrishMist, i am quite sure i want to go their, the fact is that it drives me crazy not knowing or understanding what is in my head. The feeling as though i have lsot somethign and can't fine it. They the courner is were everythign hides, and right now i have only small candle to light my way, which makes the shadows fall even darker.

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If the light should turn and leave you blinded.
Take the dream and give it one more try.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 9:14:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Like IrishMist, there are corners of my soul that many would not want to touch or get to know.

Just as an example mind you....

If you've seen the movie Saving Private Ryan you may recall the knife fight scene between one of the German and American soldiers. The German wins, slow driving the knife into the American's chest, into his heart, the American slowly dies. And the German is whispering softly, gently, almost reassuringly to the American...

OMG that scene was absolutely HOT. And I'm so straight it's not funny. But I get shivvers and turned on every time I see that, and really wish I could do that.... (the stabbing part, not the getting stabbed part)

*smiles ruefully and shrugs* Sometimes I go in there and root around, but more often than not the things in those dark corners will jump up and bite me on the ass if I'm not careful and keep a lid on them.

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And there are people out there that really think I am not a sadist...

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 9:33:10 AM   
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Yes IrishMist, i am quite sure i want to go their, the fact is that it drives me crazy not knowing or understanding what is in my head. The feeling as though i have lsot somethign and can't fine it. They the courner is were everythign hides, and right now i have only small candle to light my way, which makes the shadows fall even darker.


Do so slowly, but more than that...explore them with someone. It took me alot of years to come to terms with, and accept the fact that I ENJOY being beaten to a pulp, I enjoy being knocked around for no reason at all, I enjoy being used, being degraded, being humilated. But it took alot of time, and alot of help from others to help me accept that there was NOTHING wrong with me because of this.

Take your time with it, go slowly, and pick one piece at a time. Analyze it, over analyze it, learn about it, accept it, and embrace it.


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