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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 9:37:20 AM

yourMissTress

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Go with a trusted friend. And if you have one, take a loving and forgiving HP with you.

It's not easy to look at much less examine those dark places. We don't always like what we see, the beauty of which is that seeing and accepting are the first steps on the path to changing. Self examination and brutal honesty are key to growth. Remember too, to seek progress, not perfection. The journey to self awareness is certainly the most worthwhile and rewarding journey that I've experienced.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 9:42:55 AM

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oh poo! Go alone! Most times, you dont want anyone knowing whats goin on in there! Heck if you go with a trust friend, you might lose that friend. Or they might end up looking at you wierd :p

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 10:37:49 AM

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Thank you all so much for the advise, slow and steady is how i plan on doing it. I am also taking a trusted friend with me, for even with teh glemses i have seen so far, someone to just hold me, can be a good thing.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 1:29:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: Tine11

How is that you get into the dark scary corners of ones mind, so find out what is really their?

Make sure that first, you are ready to enter into such darkness. Once you are, proceed slowly, with another person there; someone you trust implicitly. Take it one step at a time, and examine each new discovery that you find. Not only will you have to face what is there, but you will also have to get past the fear of discovering what it means, and why it means what it does.

Once you have managed to do that, you can then begin to embrace what you have found, and to accept it. Examining our own nature can be extremely intense, and at times downright depressing and terrifying.

Just go slowly. If you find something that you can not deal with at that time, leave it for another time. Don't push too hard, just let it all come naturally.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 3:36:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: DesertRat

I found The Mind Parasites, a novel by Colin Wilson very helpful. Not that I was seeking, mind you. It's just that, having found the book many years ago, I find myself often recalling concepts embedded within the story line. What I found most useful was his idea of exploring within while in possession of mental/spiritual tools likely to ensure appreciation and survival rather than fear and death. It was my first exposure to the possibility of going deep into scary realms but then, instead of looking and turning away as instinct would dictate, going still deeper to find the essential "rightness" of my existence. To varying degrees, I use that 'technique' almost daily.

If this seems hopelessly garbled, I apologize. I am still waking up.

Bob

Damned well put Bob, I know both the book and the author. I too have a cleansing ritual I do which requires a journey into the self. I also use it to help heal myself and attempt to beat the shyt out of my diabetes and gammy knee. I refer to it as my sanity safety net when the horrors poke their noses out from the subconscious. The technique I use will be probably known to those occult practitioners and is generally referred to as “The Middle Pillar” technique.

BTW, I trust that the new year is happening for you as well as expected and brings you nothing but peace and happiness.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 3:45:40 PM

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UH OH, I don't have any---you mean these wicked, sadistic, perverse thoughts are supposed to be buried somewhere?

yeah.. in the backyard with all the um bodies.....

What you mean I am the only one here with that fetish?

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 3:57:36 PM

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yeah.. in the backyard with all the um bodies.....

What you mean I am the only one here with that fetish?

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i started buryin em in the neighbors yard

she still aint figured out why her flowers are doin so good come spring

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 3:59:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesertRat

I found The Mind Parasites, a novel by Colin Wilson very helpful. Not that I was seeking, mind you. It's just that, having found the book many years ago, I find myself often recalling concepts embedded within the story line. What I found most useful was his idea of exploring within while in possession of mental/spiritual tools likely to ensure appreciation and survival rather than fear and death. It was my first exposure to the possibility of going deep into scary realms but then, instead of looking and turning away as instinct would dictate, going still deeper to find the essential "rightness" of my existence. To varying degrees, I use that 'technique' almost daily.

If this seems hopelessly garbled, I apologize. I am still waking up.

Bob

Damned well put Bob, I know both the book and the author. I too have a cleansing ritual I do which requires a journey into the self. I also use it to help heal myself and attempt to beat the shyt out of my diabetes and gammy knee. I refer to it as my sanity safety net when the horrors poke their noses out from the subconscious. The technique I use will be probably known to those occult practitioners and is generally referred to as “The Middle Pillar” technique.

BTW, I trust that the new year is happening for you as well as expected and brings you nothing but peace and happiness.

Thank you so much, IronBear! It's always a pleasure to find someone else who knows Wilson's work. I have also learned useful things from his trashily titled but very well written Space Vampires.

This year is off to a superb start. I hope the same is true for you.

Bob

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 6:05:01 PM

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What do you want to know and why do you want to know it?

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 6:42:24 PM

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quote:

How is that you get into the dark scary corners of ones mind, so find out what is really their?

Drugs...good ones...with a good friend.

I'm joking...of course

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/16/2006 7:59:20 PM

Tine11

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ORIGINAL: fldrkhorse

What do you want to know and why do you want to know it?

i want to know what is those corners, and iw ant to know because i hate not understandign and being scared of it

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Take the dream and give it one more try.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/17/2006 2:38:43 AM

fldrkhorse

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i want to know what is those corners, and iw ant to know because i hate not understandign and being scared of it

But you already know. Perhaps the fear IS the knowing.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/17/2006 6:30:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: fldrkhorse

quote:

i want to know what is those corners, and iw ant to know because i hate not understandign and being scared of it

But you already know. Perhaps the fear IS the knowing.

That could be, but sometimes getting past that fear means understanding and acceptance, which is what she is wanting to happen.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/17/2006 8:17:15 AM

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yeah.. in the backyard with all the um bodies.....

What you mean I am the only one here with that fetish?

The back yard? It would yield a certain kind of intimacy I suppose but all things considered it sounds pretty edgey.

"I found a place, it's dark and it's rotted.

A cool, sweet kind of place where the copters won't spot it."

After that musical interlude, here's a question for the original poster or anyone interested.

Do you believe in Evil? What do you conceive of it as (are you maybe with Augustine in his privation theory or do you envision a ding an sich.) If Evil exists, where?

For a lot of people who might answer yes to the first question, "the mind or heart" is a possible answer to the last question. In that way this all might bear on the request given at the top of the thread. Not that it would clearly rule in or out the trip tine thinks she wants to take.

Setting aside the existence or nature of Evil, what do we know about things buried deep, in general?

Treasures are buried just waiting to be brought up and sparkle. Some, though, come accompanied by a curse.

The dead are buried and generally thought best left that way.

A seed is buried, and to exhume it is more or less to destroy it. But then in what we call the proper season we do dig roots and tubers and are sustained by them thanks to what has become of them in the dark.

Garbage--traditionally, before we invented eternal garbage anyway--was buried to be hidden and forgotten along with the unsightliness and hazards it carried. We know that the earth was its bardo, in which the garbage began its harmless (to us) transformation into once-again-useful material. But again, it was best left uninvestigated by the generation who buied it.

Foundations are buried and to dig them up is to destabilize the structure.

The question stands as to which or what sort of thing tine would be digging for and whether the thing she is digging for is the thing she would find.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/17/2006 9:48:07 AM

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Okay...I just wanna say that even a heavy topic like "Dark places in one's head" can be overthunk. Allegories can be handy, but I think you're taking this so far into the beautifully symbolic as to make the discussion impractically abstract.

Still, I'll rise to the "foundations" metaphor: Poetically phrased so, without further thought, I would let it pass. Thinking about it though...viewing a foundation does not necessarily weaken the supported structure. Indeed, if the integrity of the foundation is in any way compromised, then digging down to take a looksee might actually save the structure.

Here's one of my own: Some wounds hurt a lot at first, but then the pain subsides and may go away completely, even though the wound is still there, killing the patient. The patient can be left to die in comfort or can be subjected to definitive treatment that will effect a full recovery. The definitive care is probably gonna hurt and may even temporarily weaken the patient, but can ultimately restore him to full strength.

arggh....I'm more of a mechanic than a philosopher *....head....hurting....the familiar pain of.....thinking too much......must go out....and....live......*

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/17/2006 4:50:17 PM

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setting aside existentialism and what not, things are most often buried for a reason. some are much deeper than others, and some layered. some are close to the top, and perhaps most easily discovered and dealt with. others are not so easily unearthed or reckoned with. one has to wonder if the things found buried deep are indeed the things one may not be wishing to see, or aren't even imagined, what plans does one have for such an occasion.

cleansings and rituals of the sort aren't easily happened upon. one would hope that someone who has made this kind of a journey is an accompanist of sorts.

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RE: Dark places in ones head - 1/19/2006 11:19:38 PM

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Hmmmm, I'm a little confused as what these "Dark Places" are. Are these fantasies that scare you, because you're not sure why you have them.

Or are they things like doubts, regrets, feelings of unworthiness.

I don't know about most people but I've had some very messed up fantasies, Murder, rape, enslavement, real torture and mutilation, etc..... Basicly every bad human quality my warped brain has figured out some way to get off on to one degree or another. But it doesn't mean I want to do any of that, or have done any of that "really". It doesn't scare me though because it is, what it is, which is nothing more the mental masturbastion for ones ego.

If it's the things like doubts, regrets, feelings of unworthiness. I found meditation just makes me feel good and those feelings subside, that doesn't really help explore them, but it does give you the feeling of having a clean slate. Doubts and regret just don't seem as important afterward.
The only way I was able to deeply explore the feelings and I didn't want it to happen was on shrooms in college. Oh boy, I had about 6 hours of my brain just telling me everything I ever did wrong, all the regrets and worries etc.... But somehow I resolved it and the last two or so hours was great peace and serenity. I don't recommend that as you sound like you are disturbed by these things already without any drug multiplying it. Since you are actively aware of these and they are distressing you I'd suggest talking to a friend, and if that doesn't work seek a professional. It is a great feeling when you reconcile with yourself.

thanks and good luck

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