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Sissy4Mistress61 -> RE: How many Bailout Plans will it take for you to give up on the idea (2/10/2009 9:45:48 PM)
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"Bailout" and "stimulous" are 2 different words with different meanings, but if you know anything at all about politics, especially in our modern era then you would have to understand that words are often used solely for the purpose of making something that wouldn't be desired seem desirable. In this case "stimulous" and "bailout" are the same thing, MASSIVE amounts of pork, "make-work" jobs that will dry up as soon as the funds that are stolen from the people to pay for this garbage dry up. And you do realize that there's already another "stimulous" package in the works by our now famous tax cheat, Geithner, the new Secretary of the Treasury which by coincidence is over the IRS, the very agency that would have us mere mortals in jail for what he's getting away with.
I do wonder when the people of this country will wake-up, grow a brain and say "ENOUGH!" The economy was in a recession when Bush 43 (2001) came into office, it was in recession when Clinton came into office (1993) and it was in recession when Reagan came into office (1981). The economy has a natural cycle of about 10 years, at which time it will enter a recession and recover on its own as long as the private sector is allowed to grow and create jobs as has happened on all 3 of these listed occasions.
The government DOES NOT create job growth, it can only take and that's exactly what's happening here. In 2007, the last year on record, there were 98 million tax returns filed (IRS numbers, not mine). With a $800 billion-$900 billion bailout and rounding that number to 100 million tax payers (just because it's close and easier to work with) that's $8,000-$9,000 per tax payer in additional debt that will be signed into law in the next few days or weeks. No one in their right mind (no pun intended) can believe that if you gave this money back to the people that paid it to the government in the first place that it wouldn't create a much stronger economic stimulous than anything that the government can do with it.
As for the "worst economy since the Great Depression" how is it that in 1980 all 3 of the major indexes (unemployment, interest rates, and inflation) were much worse than they are now?! As recently as 2000 (Clinton's last year) the unemployment rate was higher than it is now. This is according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, not something that I'm making up.
I'm not trying to point out that Obama is a horrible person, only that he's doing horrible things to the economy. I'm not trying to paint Bush 43 as wonderful, he's not. I'm simply pointing out that there are some people out there that don't understand what is going on with the economy and our current political situation. This has been building for decades, more government, more laws, more intrusion into our every day lives; it's not something new. Always remember, a government that is strong enough to give you anything that you want is strong enough to take away everything that you have. If they can take away your freedom of speech (McCain/Feingold, Campaign Finance Reform Act) and take away the money that YOU earn, then they can take away your right to freedom of expression (whether that's a good caning or any other sexual kink). If you don't believe that then you're fooling yourself.
And in case you're wondering who the hell I am, I have a BA in both history and political science and an MA in political science. I'm not a genious, but I do have something on my wall that says that I know (or should know) what's going on.
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