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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

I plan to check this thread in the morning before I go to work.
I want to read about all the great products made in America, and sent to
other countries.
I also want to hear about how the free trade system, and globalization is
working for us, these days.

We lead and export in various engineering disciplines. But as for some mentioned, we are and have been fast losing ground on heavy equip., (Japanese) and machine tools (Germans) but we do export advanced technology in many fields...Internet, computers, fiber optics, other communications equip. and specialty goods like various new materials used in building much of the above.

Still, much of what we export is not made here. Before IBM sold their PC business, they were made in Mexico. Don't know if that has since been moved to China. 

However, I see no reason this stimulus will do any better or worse than all those previous stimuli. 

BTW, most favored nation has little to do with our exports now and was mainly on imports. But we do have restrictions on drugs, agric. (we dump agric. on the world market) and textiles with the occasional sale of say lumber and steel tariffs on behalf of their investors.

We are tariff and duty free with most of our trading partners. MFN was used during the cold war to penalize trade with communist govts. around the world.

Furthermore,  I just believe you MzMia are concerned about the future as are many of us and especially the young should be. I do believe it has become quite obvious we will be alright for many years to come because all we have to do is pay the debt service.

It should be obvious now that the world economy has been sustained by American consumption, well over 1 billion man/hours/day of labor and its demands along with the exporting (spending) of our money and now we will restore the world economy on our great federal credit card while we happily go about...consuming maybe and not paying for it now but over the next 20-40 years.

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

What products made in America are other countries buying?
Seriously, I need to know.

What the hell is manufactured in this country that is needed, outside
of peanut butter?

Of course it is obvious I blame outsourcing for a lot of shit wrong these days.
The chickens have come home to roost.
Seriously? what products are made here that people all over the world are clamoring to buy?
In this video, that question is asked.
The answer is sadly funny.
Bring on the bailouts, create more damn jobs.
Corpocracy: The outsourcing of America Video by CORPOCRACY: Outsourcing of America - MySpace Video

Charles Derber on globalization and the new "corpocracy" 

 Made in the U.S.A.: What products are still American-made? - BloggingStocks

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

You nailed it. 

They base themselves here and manufacter all over the world (in cheap labor markets) so they can get around tariffs. Then they ship from here to other countries so once again not paying any tariffs.

Why do you think they hire all those lawyers and people on K Street to keep the rules filled with loopholes.

Hell look at the up roar when the other countries thought Obama was going to insist that the steel used to fix our bridges was made here in the USA, Canda, Germany, Japan and several others where on the news saying it would violate the trade agreements

I agree he did nail it.
Even though many products MAY be assembled here in the US, most of the
manufacturing did not take place in US.
 

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you
Hell even McDonalds does not use beef or wheat grown in this country

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

You nailed it. 

They base themselves here and manufacter all over the world (in cheap labor markets) so they can get around tariffs. Then they ship from here to other countries so once again not paying any tariffs.

Why do you think they hire all those lawyers and people on K Street to keep the rules filled with loopholes.

Hell look at the up roar when the other countries thought Obama was going to insist that the steel used to fix our bridges was made here in the USA, Canda, Germany, Japan and several others where on the news saying it would violate the trade agreements

I agree he did nail it.
Even though many products MAY be assembled here in the US, most of the
manufacturing did not take place in US.
 

MzMia, correct.
When the people and companies who benefit from all this outsourcing are telling us how "good" that stuff is "for us" you know it's no good!
They lie to protect their own financial positions.
This whole "global economy" crap is just a lie and a house of cards being held together by the glue of greed.
If it actually worked we wouldn't need to be "bailing out" banks, brokerage houses or anyone else with taxpayer dollars, would we?
Once a business becomes insolvent, any business, you let it go into bankruptcy.
Why should Taxpayers take the hit instead of the stockholders of those businesses?
"Too big to fail?" I don't think so!
These "bailouts" are simply a ploy to keep wealthy people wealthy using Taxpayer dollars! A garauntee of sorts for them.
These same people scream about a seperation of church and state in this country but say nothing about the incestuous relationship of state and business.

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ORIGINAL: came4U

The whole idea behind global strategic displacement and disorientation of trans-goods is to give the illusion that things you buy are local.  It only makes sense that to make any given peoples dependant on goods and services (by the sale of the purchase of) from further regions.  This explains why lettuce that could be bought from a farm 25 minutes miles away is not found and the choice you are left with is something from 600+ miles away.

The whole idea behind that is to confuse and difuse any sustainable markets in one / any area so that any particular people are self-sufficient and productive.

By allowing your dependance upon this system will cause eventual collapse (depressions, starvations, worse) as it has done to any of the many third world nations.  Before colonization and land ownership in Africa/India etc people didn't 'starve' on any mass scale as we see now.  People lived off the land, stayed local and traded with travellers for goods they didn't necessarily need but wanted.   Once that is removed from any civilization, a cultural 'need' to have the knowhow and connections of getting food staples is gone.  Ie:  If you are in a major city...do you know of which farms outside town sell produce?  What kind? How much for lettuce there? Do they sell to individuals or just corporations?  Doubtful you would know, Corporations and globalists prefer it that way.  They want you lost, dazed and confused if and when shit hits the fan.  Happy shopping.

HK, wonderful post also.

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Before colonization and land ownership in Africa/India etc people didn't 'starve' on any mass scale as we see now.  People lived off the land, stayed local and traded with travellers for goods they didn't necessarily need but wanted.

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What about the depressions?
You left that part out, slaveboy.
Are you taking up for the corporations and globalists these days?
How is all this "free trade" and outsouricing working for us these days?

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ORIGINAL: corysub

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

What products made in America are other countries buying?
Seriously, I need to know.

What the hell is manufactured in this country that is needed, outside
of peanut butter?

Of course it is obvious I blame outsourcing for a lot of shit wrong these days.
The chickens have come home to roost.
Seriously? what products are made here that people all over the world are clamoring to buy?
In this video, that question is asked.
The answer is sadly funny.
Bring on the bailouts, create more damn jobs.
Corpocracy: The outsourcing of America Video by CORPOCRACY: Outsourcing of America - MySpace Video

Charles Derber on globalization and the new "corpocracy" 

 Made in the U.S.A.: What products are still American-made? - BloggingStocks

As a matter of "fact", exports from the United States were greater than the total Gross Domestic Product for almost all but the Germany, France, United Kingdom and Italy..totally about $1,300,000,000 (that's trillion folks).  As others have said here, our exports range from commercial airliners (#1), semiconductors (2) to automotive pcars and parts, pharmaceuticals, chemicals, computers and accessories..medical equipment..and on and on...to include "Peanut Butter" of which we "exported" about $366.7 million USD worth of merchandise to 121 countries in 2007, according to Market Research.com.
                       http://www.marketresearch.com/map/prod/2007407.html

        http://internationaltrade.suite101.com/article.cfm/richest_eu_countries_2006_gdp

Actually, I viewed the video and really didn't find it funny...I have no idea who the fellow was that stumbled on such an easy question to answer, even by a sohpmore studying international trade...The video did not give an "answer"...it raised the "facts" that the United States has been reshuffling jobs within the States, and we have "lost" huge numbers of jobs in the textile, steel, shipbuilding, plastic fabrication, and the bulk of product sales at Wal-Mart, for example.  In 2004, the latest numbers I could find withhout quitting my day job, Wal-Mart alone imported $18 billion of goods just from China!  Add in the total Pacific Rim, Central America, Madagascar..and who knows how many others, and those are all products from infant clothing to shovels that used to be made in the USA.

Obviously, it was all the fault of George Bush.  End of argument.  Unfortunately, it's not that easy an answer and, in fact, your friend of the worker..your UNION, had much to do with forcing retailers to go overseas where the quality was good and the low cost of labor gave vendors significant competitive advantage.  The Unions, until today if you listen to the UAW, think American workers are protected by two oceans like the old days.  Now those Oceans are the roads that bring in containerships every hour of the day to our harbors with goods from abroad.  Why is it in about seven States where unions don't have the power, auto companies have thrived for years, although all are suffering the deep industry wide recession in auto sales.  However, those plants will be around for the recovery, I'm not too sure about Michigan, Indiana, New Jersey and other unionized facilities. 
The unions caused NYC to lose its position as a world class port to New Jersey, Baltimore and even Philadelphia...the union demands caused most of the newspapers in NYC to close, unions caused the garment center in NYC to fold up as it first moved to the right to work southern states and than abroad.  Union membership has dwindled and now, with the Obama "Change", they see the possibility to reassert power by taking away the right to a secret ballot by workers.  How the hell is that friendly to workers when you take away their right to make a vote pro/con the union withhout having to fear intimidation or comments from fellow workers on the other side of the vote?

But I digress..

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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What about the depressions?
You left that part out, slaveboy.
Are you taking up for the corporations and globalists these days?
How is all this "free trade" and outsouricing working for us these days?

What about depressions?  I addressed came4u's claim that incidents of widespread starvation (famine) are worse today than in the pre-colonial past, which is nonsense.  I didn't talk about depressions at all, but since you asked.  We're not in an economic depression.  We aren't anywhere close to an economic depression; and despite widespread paranoia, this is not the worst recession since the Great Depression.  Yes, I am for free trade.  I've always been a strong proponent of it.  I do not see economic protectionism and isolationism as good things.  Corporations can be good or bad.  Labeling them all as bad is just silly. 

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lol, slaveboy.
Our economy is fine, all is well, we are no where near a depression.
Things have never been better in America.
 

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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lol, slaveboy.
Our economy is fine, all is well, we are no where near a depression.
Things have never been better in America.
 

I never said the economy was fine, and that all was well.  I just said we're not in a depression.  We're not, and you won't find a sane economist that would say we are.  I don't know why you're worried Mia.  Obama going to save you, so just sit back and relax.