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RE: New Hampshire has the right idea - wow. - 2/14/2009 8:01:42 AM

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Just a small thing I noticed. All of those now saying "If you don't like the US, the borders are open to leave" got very angry when the other side said the same thing only a year ago. Its amazing how some people sound just like those they condemned a year ago. "Change" should mean more than switching places.

Exactly.

I listened to the same crap for 8 years from the other side. Politics in this country has, for most of my life, had a pendulum type of movement where it gravitated back and forth between left and right. It no longer gravitates. The swings are abrupt and each side in power is just as intolerant and spiteful towards the other. We had 8 years of Bush paying homage to those on the far right. What we have now looks like it's going to be paying homage to the far left. Both sides have the "we're in power, sit down and shut up" attitude towards the other. Both sides also consider a few million votes out of more than a hundred million as a mandate. The US is fairly evenly divided between those who lean left and those who lean right, but that divide has become sharper and sharper over the years until its more like a chasm now.

What is surprising me is the vehemence some have now. There's always been heated debate back and forth but most of the people I've recently talked to either have no faith in the stimulus or are incredibly angry that it passed. Its not the stimulating part that angers them so much, nor the trillion or two sitting behind the scenes to act as bail out money, it is what they see as using the state of the economy to push through a socialist agenda.

Doesn't surprise me that states are passing such resolutions. I live in one that is. If I were given the opportunity to vote yea or nay on it, I'd vote yea - not because I hate Obama or Democrats, but because it's the way this country is supposed to be.

Just in case anyone wonders, I don't care much for Republicans either. That "I" designation has been beside my name for a long time.

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RE: New Hampshire has the right idea - wow. - 2/14/2009 10:41:39 AM

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if your so anxious to live in a state not part of the United States Of America,why don`t you leave now?

My impression is, that these states want to stay a part of the United States of America instead of a part of something else.

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RE: New Hampshire has the right idea - wow. - 2/14/2009 2:38:21 PM

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O59, do you believe in States rights at all? Should the states have representation at the Federal level?

So if someone does not like or does like something politically about the US, then they should just get out?

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RE: New Hampshire has the right idea - wow. - 2/15/2009 12:28:12 AM

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This was settled over 140 years ago. States do not dictate anything to the US government. States are simply convenient subdivisions of the United States not independent constituents of a voluntary federation.

Tell that to Texas. If the Texas legislation votes to secede. They secede. Don't think the feds can do anything to stop it.

And the day they do is the day I hop in the car and become a texan, if they'll have me.

If you don't want to live in the US the borders are open right now.

BTW advocating secession is sedition and is a crime.

The hell it is. The first amendment applies even if a leftist doesn't like what is being said.

And it texas does succeed they would be by definition be outside the borders of the united states, try to pay attention.

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RE: New Hampshire has the right idea - wow. - 2/15/2009 6:51:03 AM

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Isn't the word "secede?" I believe it is.

As for Texas, as it was explained to me years ago, they are supposed to have a clause granting them the right to return to being a sovereign nation in their state constitution (which was said to have been accepted by the US as a condition of their joining in the first place). That may be only legend or it may be true. I have neither the time nor inclination to verify it either way.

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RE: New Hampshire has the right idea - wow. - 2/15/2009 9:58:37 PM

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~FR~

Urban Myth about Texas.

http://www.texassecede.com/faq.asp

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RE: New Hampshire has the right idea - wow. - 2/16/2009 5:40:14 AM

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Thanks for the link, Orion. It was interesting reading.

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