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RE: Begging - 2/12/2009 8:42:49 PM   
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I suspect you are more highly evolved than most.

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RE: Begging - 2/12/2009 9:24:19 PM   
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To all:
I have to say I am amazed at the wealth of information offered and so quickly. I only just posted this question this morning. It was good to hear from those who have had similar issues and from those who have come to understand it. I will read this column repeatedly as I let thoughts sink in. I especially liked what hejira92 offered in her 3rd post  Reach deep, deep down and be totally vulnerable- say anything that you find down there- no matter how dirty or dark you think it might be- that's usually what he wants- the unvarnished truth of your helplessness and desire.
I think in large part right now that is the issue. Our relationship is new and becoming vulnerable...completely, takes time. The atmosphere is right with Him...offering me acceptance and openness to things I desire. I also appreciated that rather basic notion..."ask Him what he wants"...lol. Good place to start.

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RE: Begging - 2/12/2009 9:27:21 PM   
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I do appreciate your words, thank you. My focus however, is His pleasure and if this is something that pleases Him then that is what I wish to do.

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RE: Begging - 2/12/2009 10:44:03 PM   
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I enjoy reading the replies here and often find some interesting view points. With that said I was hoping that I might ask for some suggestions for my situation. My Dom has asked me to beg at certain times during a scene. I have never really done this before and while I tried...I haven't even a clue what to say. This might seem like something that should just come naturally...but the words aren't there for me yet. I imagine he will ask this of me again and I would very much like to please him next time. For example, I am on my knees and he has my hair in his hands as I suck him...if he pulls me off and asks me to beg. "Tell me how much you want it" . I replied and he said "you will need to do better than that". I agree but I draw a blank. Any ideas? Or even a book/story that you have seen a good example of this?    


Partial repost from a recent thread in which someone asked about her husband's desire to see her beg:


In my last relationship, I could beg for certain sexual activities; in fact, he loved when I did. And when I did, it wasn't an act. It came from a place within that was so desperate for the object of my begging that the trembling and the welled up eyes were very real, and he loved it and would drag it out as long as possible. If your husband enjoys you begging to suck him, for example, rather than a meaningless "please oh please let me suck your dick", reach into your emotional gut and consider that you are begging to please him, to feed yourself, and to ride the life-line that connects you. If what you are begging for does not
mean anything to you, it might very well fall flat and boring to him. On the other hand...if it becomes the one thing that will sustain you through the day...well, that will come across quite nicely and if he is partial to begging, he might be quite pleased with it.



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RE: Begging - 2/13/2009 5:10:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL:  hejira92

Reach deep, deep down and be totally vulnerable- say anything that you find down there- no matter how dirty or dark you think it might be- that's usually what he wants- the unvarnished truth of your helplessness and desire.



Perhaps this slave should try that.  she does more then freeze up when Master asks her to beg.  her heart races and she feels like she can't breath much like when she gets on stage anymore.  Then this slave just ends up feeling stupid. :D  Perhaps this will help if she can remember to think of it at the time ;)

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RE: Begging - 2/13/2009 12:32:00 PM   
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 That kind of *begging* without clear instruction seems to me like ME saying * Please be *domly* master*. It pretty ambiguous when it's asked for in those contexts. I'm like the poster further up......there's really not a great deal I'd *beg* for ..unless it was for ME. I'm quite happy to let it be perfectly clear when I want something or don't want something , but *making it up* will always sound pathetic when it drops from my lips.

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RE: Begging - 2/13/2009 3:23:43 PM   
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well personally this slave is off to give some of this advice the old college try ;)

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RE: Begging - 2/13/2009 3:49:20 PM   
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I thought begging can only happen naturally. Someone begs when they want something to stop (or start) and no other action makes desired results. If your master ask you to beg but you are not in distress then begging not real.

Unless you great actor then unreal begging will sound fake and does not matter what is said.

My sub will not beg when I tie and walk on him. He enjoys too much. I have to twist his nipple to make him beg. Then he uses many creative English words. LOL

What I am trying to write is not matter what words you use. There are not magic words. You must be under duress (or in distress) or you must find emotion and act.

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RE: Begging - 2/14/2009 2:37:32 AM   
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Begging shows Him i know He has the power and control.  i think you have to feel powerless and vulnerable to do it best.  i use a combination of words, pleading sounds, crying puppy noises, looks, and body gestures.....and they all come together as an effective package.  To me, words alone aren't very effective.  "Begging eyes" are very good.  i love to beg and i seem to be good at it.

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RE: Begging - 2/19/2009 11:54:01 PM   
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Not to sound like a parrot, but YAY! im not alone. I also get the stage-fright type nervousness, and i want to please him but also worry that i will sound stupid, so i just freeze up. Definately good advice here though...thanks OP for this thread lol!

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RE: Begging - 2/20/2009 12:34:56 AM   
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I love to hear begging...   But it takes getting to know my partner first, because I decide whether the begging will make me push harder, or hold and caress him...   Depending on where he is at the moment, and if I'm feeling him efectively.   
That doesn't answer your question I know, but my feelings on the matter were answered by
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hejira92
Finally, I stopped worrying about the words and concentrated on the feeling. Even if I was only repeating "Please", if it sounded genuine and came from within me, then THAT was what He was looking for.
 
Also, the more I trusted and the less I worried about my own vulnerability, the easier begging became.
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RE: Begging - 3/8/2009 12:58:55 PM   
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i have to say the words come naturally to me i dont think about it before hand just as the scene goes  i will beg for more or less or to be forgiven whatever that time in play its about .i useually start with please Master  whatever  its for more or something i dont wanna  do . or happen to me

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RE: Begging - 3/8/2009 2:02:12 PM   
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i don't know if i could beg if my life depended on it.

Never have liked the thought of begging, it has negative connotations for me, smacks of whining behaviour, wheedling away for something i want, where i would rather ask for what i need and have a reasonable entreaty answered.


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RE: Begging - 3/9/2009 3:42:14 PM   
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Hi, babygirl1065----
Anything other than short-term begging pisses me off as, imo, it dips into humiliation which is sooooo not my cup of tea. 
Anyway, I was considering the cocksucking scenario you mentioned and your request for suggestions.  I don't know what you said or what your body language is but, I would suggest the following: Kneeling down, being sure you are no higher up than his cock, looking up at him, brushing your lips against his cock, rubbing your face against his genitals, moaning, looking up into his eyes some more, as you open your mouth to speak,doing so in a way that his cock caresses your lips and touches your lower lip as you begin to speak...and, if you can't muster some begging after doing those things, you've not fully given yourself to the body language as, imo, that display is far more submissive and worshipful and inclined toward begging than just about any words you can say. 
Best wishes, 
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RE: Begging - 3/9/2009 9:55:36 PM   
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"please"

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RE: Begging - 3/10/2009 12:14:52 AM   
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oh Davan!

at that point, a sweetly whispered.. please Master (or Sir) may i please taste your delicious cock again?

perhaps followed by.... if he wants more begging... i so love the taste and feel of it throbbing between my eager lips, dancing on my tongue, please, allow your slut to give you pleasure, Master?

ahem.. ok.. i got lost in the moment there

~goes to cool off

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RE: Begging - 3/10/2009 12:25:15 AM   
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hi pinkwind

i look at it this way.  its their ego stroke.  men also like to know they are desired, wanted, hungered for by the woman (or women) in their lives.  i have only been able to beg one man like that.  i can beg to cum like no tomorrow... i can beg him to never stop... hell.. i have begged him to stop when i didnt think i could take anymore ( and thank god he didnt listen)  but to be able to beg from the beginning, without a touch, is very hard for me until i know his desires and passions.  and even then i have to push aside my own fears and concentrate on his pleasure, because i know what pleasure he can bring me when i do.

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RE: Begging - 3/10/2009 5:14:46 PM   
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Thanks tazzy, i understand what people seemingly get from begging, and what they give to the one they beg from, maybe Andy and i are just different. He asks me things, i just answer honestly from the depth of my feral soul sometimes, but there isn't an element of begging there, just a plain statement of fact.

Sounds boring to people here i suppose, but if i want something i have the ability to ask. He has the perfect right to refuse me, and if he does then it's subject closed. i don't see it as edifying, to carry on trying to get something that isn't going to be given, no matter what.

Maybe i am too straight, look unemotional even, although he and i know that's so far from the truth, i put my emotion and the energy it takes into other avenues, begging just seems to be a waste of time and emotion that is better directed elsewhere!

Some of us humans are peculiar beings!


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RE: Begging - 3/10/2009 8:01:53 PM   
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it is really hard to do =p i don't think i do it very well unless it's REAL
soemtimes i feel an overwhelming urge to plead for something, if i feel like i need something
or i really like something he's doing
it's hard to do when the urge isn't aimed towards vocalising...

but i think what hejira is saying is really good advice.
i find that when it's real, every single little brick of resistance is completely gone
i can say things in "that state" that i can't even think of saying otherwise because there isn't any internal resistance
so maybe what makes it hard is that a few little blocks of "omgz what's he going to think if i don't say this or i DO say that" are still lingering

hm.

will have to ponder.

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RE: Begging - 3/10/2009 8:55:25 PM   
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quote:

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oh Davan!

at that point, a sweetly whispered.. please Master (or Sir) may i please taste your delicious cock again?

perhaps followed by.... if he wants more begging... i so love the taste and feel of it throbbing between my eager lips, dancing on my tongue, please, allow your slut to give you pleasure, Master?

ahem.. ok.. i got lost in the moment there

~goes to cool off


Hi, tazzygirl----
Glad to have been of inspiration.  :> 
I think that getting lost in the moment, surrendering to the moment, is what it's all about!  :> 
  Davan

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