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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/18/2009 8:14:56 PM

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Nobody wants to address the whole public humiliation thing? The other guys in the locker room did not consent to being dragged into it.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/18/2009 9:24:59 PM

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Nobody wants to address the whole public humiliation thing? The other guys in the locker room did not consent to being dragged into it.

That too is a good point.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/19/2009 1:12:38 AM

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Nobody wants to address the whole public humiliation thing? The other guys in the locker room did not consent to being dragged into it.

I could go for that (meaning I'd agree with you) *if* a scene had been specifically designed that way. Something more along the lines of the Dominant stroking him to get him hard and then ordering him to go straight to the locker room and disrobe would fit this category. (Of course, he'd have to maintain the erection.) I'm not quite sure getting the erection on his own, without direct stimulus fits.

It isn't exactly clear from the original if anyone at the gym was aware that the OP got an erection. If no one noticed, there's really no inclusion of another party. Very much like ordering a sub to wear a pair of pink panties to work or tying a red ribbon around his penis before sending him to the grocery store. There's no reason to get consent of the co-workers and other shoppers because no one else knows what's going on.

However, on the subject of public humiliation, I'm not saying you're totally wrong. For all we know, that was the motivation for starting the thread in the first place. After all, there are four or five of us who have been talking about the OP's erection, literally, for days.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/19/2009 5:31:18 AM

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Not quite the case. I seem to seeing things in a similar way to LadyPact.

There are more things in heaven and earth, as they say.

I see a lot of different possible reasons for his post. I'm certainly not assuming he's some kind of victim from reading it.

People paddle and splash about in pools that are over their heads for tons of reasons. They'll sink or swim.

There's NO mention of a relationship beyond * playing with recently*....so I'm not going to assume she has some time-held control over him.

As I said before, if he REALLY has an issue with being *forced* down this route, he can resist. If he *needs* her so desperately that he going along with things that he fundamentally can't stand, then he's playing in the wrong place and has problems FAR greater than getting a stiffy in the shower.

He CHOSE her. He's going along with it. If he can't say * Hang on, no way, not my thing, really am not doing this* then he's either liking it on SOME level (whatever that may be) or too daft to pull up his pants and close the mags, shutdown the VCR and say * this isn't for me*.

I hate to say this but I've got sprogs with more bollocks.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/19/2009 10:11:50 AM

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Nobody wants to address the whole public humiliation thing? The other guys in the locker room did not consent to being dragged into it.

They aren't dragged into anything. That's really over-reaching and daft. Dicks get hard when a guy *thinks* about things as well as looking at them..I'm glad I'm a girl and don't have to justify why I'm turned on at any given time. Lord, you'd think guys would get over that by the time they left school at least.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/19/2009 10:30:19 AM

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Nobody wants to address the whole public humiliation thing? The other guys in the locker room did not consent to being dragged into it.

They aren't dragged into anything. That's really over-reaching and daft. Dicks get hard when a guy *thinks* about things as well as looking at them..I'm glad I'm a girl and don't have to justify why I'm turned on at any given time. Lord, you'd think guys would get over that by the time they left school at least.

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You would think that but you'd be wrong, social progress is not uniform in this regard: it depends on who you're talking about.

And yes, if I'm in a locker room and some guy looking at me get's a woody, it is involving me, I'm going to have some sort of emotional response to that, probably negative, and although I would probably suppress that and shrug it off - I've been hit on by guys before, it's not gonna stress me out - somebody else might not: men are often under a certain amount of social pressure to actively distance themselves from anything remotely suggesting they might harbor homoerotic urges - research indicates that this reaction can be extremely hostile in proportion to whether they do in fact, harbor some secret homoerotic urges.

Male and female sexual/cerebral response patterns are very different, there are some biological distinctions.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/19/2009 11:04:32 AM

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You would think that but you'd be wrong, social progress is not uniform in this regard: it depends on who you're talking about.

It took quite a while, but thank you, thank you, thank you.

The biggest problem that I've had with this whole thread is some of the reactions that people have had directly related to the fact that there is a *HUGE* amount of gender bias on this issue.

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And yes, if I'm in a locker room and some guy looking at me get's a woody, it is involving me, I'm going to have some sort of emotional response to that, probably negative, and although I would probably suppress that and shrug it off - I've been hit on by guys before, it's not gonna stress me out - somebody else might not: men are often under a certain amount of social pressure to actively distance themselves from anything remotely suggesting they might harbor homoerotic urges - research indicates that this reaction can be extremely hostile in proportion to whether they do in fact, harbor some secret homoerotic urges.

Male and female sexual/cerebral response patterns are very different, there are some biological distinctions.

I'm not really so sure about this last part. Can you explain it further to Me? If someone of either gender would happen to look at you and become sexually excited, how exactly does that involve you? I would tend to think it only involves you if you are made aware of it.

Being hit on is another matter. I'd say that is a case of someone specifically making you aware that you might be being pursued.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/19/2009 11:10:05 AM

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You are assuming nobody else is aware of it, I cannot make that assumption and am assuming the worst case scenario, which if this turns out to be an ongoing thing, is almost certainly bound to occur at some point.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/19/2009 12:05:36 PM

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Fair enough. I was thinking from the original that there was no detection.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/19/2009 1:42:49 PM

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Nobody wants to address the whole public humiliation thing? The other guys in the locker room did not consent to being dragged into it.

They aren't dragged into anything. That's really over-reaching and daft. Dicks get hard when a guy *thinks* about things as well as looking at them..I'm glad I'm a girl and don't have to justify why I'm turned on at any given time. Lord, you'd think guys would get over that by the time they left school at least.

agirl

You would think that but you'd be wrong, social progress is not uniform in this regard: it depends on who you're talking about.

And yes, if I'm in a locker room and some guy looking at me get's a woody, it is involving me, I'm going to have some sort of emotional response to that, probably negative, and although I would probably suppress that and shrug it off - I've been hit on by guys before, it's not gonna stress me out - somebody else might not: men are often under a certain amount of social pressure to actively distance themselves from anything remotely suggesting they might harbor homoerotic urges - research indicates that this reaction can be extremely hostile in proportion to whether they do in fact, harbor some secret homoerotic urges.

Male and female sexual/cerebral response patterns are very different, there are some biological distinctions.

Not being a guy, I can't say..but I have 3 male sprogs who wouldn't bat an eyelid if another chap fancied them....so my thoughts are shooting from my cultural hip.

Also, It wouldn't bother me in the least if a female *hit on me*, as you put it. I'd be flattered.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/19/2009 2:30:16 PM

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Clearly, there are cultural differences between Winchester, UK, and Northern New Mexico/Southern Colorado, USA.

I have no idea where this guy is from, but even in big city - Albuquerque for example, there's almost certain to be a huge difference between say a private health club, where you have some handle on the general attitude if you go there very often, a dressing room at a public pool, where there is a broad cross section, the YMCA, or a locker room at a college, where people might be more blase - or less - beating up gays is an old fratboy tradition in some fraternities.

Hell, a lot could depend on the time of day, since different people do different things at different times, the point is that the response is not predicated on any set of conditions more precise than the presence of naked males, so it's a crap shoot, and sooner or later, it's gonna be at the wrong place at the wrong time, simply by virtue of the law of averages.

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RE: forced bi help??? - 2/19/2009 4:12:49 PM

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Sixpack,

I answered your question, but you never answered mine.

Anytime you wanna chime in, it would be nice to hear from you.

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