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ORIGINAL: Kindred2Evil

The biggest problem with coming up with a universal code to show your lifestyle is this...What about Sadist and masochists? And middles. Not switches (though there would be a problem there too)
Say you have a bisexual sado/masochistic middle who will play with either male or female. The twists and turns in WIIWD is limitless. Personally I wouldn't want to wear and arm full of leather bands to show what I am. But that's just me. Whatever is come up with needs to be something that won't draw alot of unwanted attention when one goes about town or to work or is around non-kink friend people. What I was taught was flagging, Dominant carries things like their keys or cellphones on their right side, submissive or slave on their left. It would be nice if you could just carry a flogger or whip or your toy of choice in a miniature version attatched to your beltloop all the time lol

That's why I like the triskele. My front plate on my truck has one on it along with an X that has silvery looking O rings hanging from the top corners of the X. Understated and yet I've gotten various comments from others who were into WIIWD and even from a few that were completely clueless.

And along these lines, does anyone know if there is a symbol for RACK?

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ORIGINAL: porthuronsub

I totally have to agree with Mistress Kris on proper spelling and grammer use. I cannot believe how many times I have started to read a profile and skipped over it after trying to decipher something that is simply not English. Is it that hard to pick up a dictionary? Did that many people really fall asleep in English class? I hated English class and the teacher, yet through the power of reading and college I think I am a pretty good speller now.

The excuse of just being typos is a lame excuse...are you that lazy that you cannot backspace. We are not instant messaging here.

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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist




Left arm = submissive or bottom. (masochist)
>Thick band = interest in male dom or top.
>Thin band = interest in female domme or top.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest both genders.

Right arm = Dominate or top. (Sadist)
>Thick band = interest in male submissive or bottom.
>Thin band = interest in female submisive or bottom.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest in both genders.

Both arms
>thin bands
-->interest in female domme or top or interest in female submisive or bottom.
----->If worn by a female, she would be telling everyone that she is a lesbian switch.
----->If worn by a male, he would be telling everyone that he is a heteroexual switch.

>thick bands
-->interest in male dom or top or interest in male submissive or bottom.
----->If worn by a female, she would be telling everyone that she is a heterosexual switch.
----->If worn by a male, he would be telling everyone that he is a homosexual switch.

>Both thick and thin bands
-->interest in both genders.
-----> This person wearing the bands being a switch and bi sexual

As example a woman wearing a thick band on her right arm and a thin band on her left arm would be signifying that:
>She is a dominate, or top, (sadist) towards or for a male bottom or submissive, (masochist). While being a bottom or submissive, (masochist) toward or for a female top or domme. and may or may not be bi-sexually orientated.

Let's face it the permutations to the equations are virtually unlimited. So let us not create a multi-dimentional array that is too complicated, or confusing. Let's leave it generalized, that a couple seeking out companionship can save time by seeing who is interested in what. Then to introduce themselves. From there on if the interested parties choose to discuse personal details, that are obviously of an intimate nature, they may follow threw with some comfort of know what the other party is open minded, towards.

Taking the idea to leather bands with stainless steel studs for S&M. Stainless steel snaps for B&D. Plain leather for D&S. Starts to and complexity like the leathermen colored hanky code. Your a a munch looking for that some one special. You see her a few feet away. Hmmm, Thick band on the right arm. My thin band on the left arm. Lets walk over and introduce myself and get to know her. Then, if we click, find out just what area of BDSM she is interested in.

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Left arm = submissive or bottom. (masochist)
>Thick band = interest in male dom or top.
>Thin band = interest in female domme or top.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest both genders.

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ORIGINAL: valeca

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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist




Left arm = submissive or bottom. (masochist)
>Thick band = interest in male dom or top.
>Thin band = interest in female domme or top.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest both genders.

Right arm = Dominate or top. (Sadist)
>Thick band = interest in male submissive or bottom.
>Thin band = interest in female submisive or bottom.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest in both genders.

Both arms
>thin bands
-->interest in female domme or top or interest in female submisive or bottom.
----->If worn by a female, she would be telling everyone that she is a lesbian switch.
----->If worn by a male, he would be telling everyone that he is a heteroexual switch.

>thick bands
-->interest in male dom or top or interest in male submissive or bottom.
----->If worn by a female, she would be telling everyone that she is a heterosexual switch.
----->If worn by a male, he would be telling everyone that he is a homosexual switch.

>Both thick and thin bands
-->interest in both genders.
-----> This person wearing the bands being a switch and bi sexual

As example a woman wearing a thick band on her right arm and a thin band on her left arm would be signifying that:
>She is a dominate, or top, (sadist) towards or for a male bottom or submissive, (masochist). While being a bottom or submissive, (masochist) toward or for a female top or domme. and may or may not be bi-sexually orientated.

Let's face it the permutations to the equations are virtually unlimited. So let us not create a multi-dimentional array that is too complicated, or confusing. Let's leave it generalized, that a couple seeking out companionship can save time by seeing who is interested in what. Then to introduce themselves. From there on if the interested parties choose to discuse personal details, that are obviously of an intimate nature, they may follow threw with some comfort of know what the other party is open minded, towards.

Taking the idea to leather bands with stainless steel studs for S&M. Stainless steel snaps for B&D. Plain leather for D&S. Starts to and complexity like the leathermen colored hanky code. Your a a munch looking for that some one special. You see her a few feet away. Hmmm, Thick band on the right arm. My thin band on the left arm. Lets walk over and introduce myself and get to know her. Then, if we click, find out just what area of BDSM she is interested in.

These are all well thought out, but they're all geared toward people actively seeking their other half/complimentary partner. I may have missed it, but what about the people who aren't looking--those who are already in a relationship but would want to display their place in the 'commmunity'? Would that fall under the 'interest in' bands?

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Left arm = submissive or bottom. (masochist)
>Thick band = interest in male dom or top.
>Thin band = interest in female domme or top.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest both genders.

I ask because, for myself, that would send the wrong signal. Let's say a Dominant see's me wearing a thick band on my left arm. He see's that I have 'interest in male Dom's' and strikes up a convo checking for chemistry/interest/etc. I'm happily married to my Master and not seeking anything, but there was nothing to indicate that I was already taken--unless, of course, I was wearing my collar, in which case, there's no real need for an armband. But the whole idea was to have something discrete to wear in public--something other than a collar...lol.

Well that confused even me...


At first, I was enthralled with the idea of another symbol, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized I don't really need to advertise what, or who, I am. The only one who really needs to know my 'place' in the community is Master...and He doesn't need a symbol for that. I think I'm going to stick with the tried and true method--if I want to know whether someone is Dominant or submissive, I'll introduce myself and strike up a conversation. If I don't know you well enough to ask such a question, I don't need to know that sort of personal information about you until you're ready to offer it yourself.

That said, I understand that others may want to let people know that sort of thing in advance, and I'd back their right to do so. Maybe I'll want to display it myself, one day, too.

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ORIGINAL: Ethne

I just read the three pages through. What happens if your tastes change, and this is tattooed on? So how about this idea?

Just a symbol. One symbol, to show "lifestyle friendliness" and we can work the details out amongst ourselves. Let's take PerverseAngelic's tattoo. If I were to see that (knowing what it meant) in the grocery store, and I struck up a conversation, only to find out that she was looking for a male submissive (chosen only because I am not) okay, so we didn’t click on that level, but hey, I met a really cool person. We cannot possibly come up with something to suit each individual kink, without complicating it. I have a friend that domme's to male, subs to other women, but for a couple, she will switch, in accordance to the woman's wished. ack!! What's she going to put on? So before I forget what my point was, how about just a symbol, to signify life-style friendliness, and leave the details for those that need them.

Oh, and its condemn. Not condem.

Ethne

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ORIGINAL: porthuronsub

I totally have to agree with Mistress Kris on proper spelling and grammer use. I cannot believe how many times I have started to read a profile and skipped over it after trying to decipher something that is simply not English. Is it that hard to pick up a dictionary? Did that many people really fall asleep in English class? I hated English class and the teacher, yet through the power of reading and college I think I am a pretty good speller now.

The excuse of just being typos is a lame excuse...are you that lazy that you cannot backspace. We are not instant messaging here.

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ORIGINAL: Kindred2Evil

And along these lines, does anyone know if there is a symbol for RACK?

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ORIGINAL: Darklotus

Random thought...since we all want one....and for the crafty P/people.....why do we all try and make a "BDSM" flag or symbol or some such and have it voted on by Collarme.com?......an interesting thought we might bring to the moderators.......

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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist

I think the design should be kept simple. Primarily so that any one who wants one will be able to make it themselves from basic components. Maybe keeping to leather as the primary component. This way no one person or group could copyright it or have a distribution monopoly.

Carameldomme is definately right in the importants of keeping it simple so that every will know what the meaning is/are. This would work very well for all sexual orientations. By keeping it to leather bands of varying thickness, ie. thin or thick, left or right. Let us keep the collour irrelevant for those who maybe red or red-green collour blind.

Left arm = submissive or bottom.
>Thick band = interest in male dom or top.
>Thin band = interest in female domme or top.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest both genders.
Right arm = Dominate or top.
>Thick band = interest in male submissive or bottom.
>Thin band = interest in female submisive or bottom.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest in both genders.

Let's see a female switch interested in a male partner would wear a thick band on both wrists. A couple interested in each other would then negotiate the details so that everything stays safe, sane, and consenual.

And for the benefit of every one let us not turn it into a multitude of colours and design variants like the leatherman hanky code, please.

Hugs and kisses

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ORIGINAL: MistressFire70

There is the BDSM triskle...it is copyrighted, BTW. Here's the page of the one who owns the copyright which explains what is and isn't the BDSM triskle (there's lots of triskles around).
http://members.aol.com/quagmyr/is.htm

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

Sorry, to me that requires just as much of a scorecard as the hanky code.

Why not just a simple pin worn on the LEFT (top) or RIGHT (bottom), like one would do with flagging keys/hankies left or right?

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

Sorry, to me that requires just as much of a scorecard as the hanky code.

Why not just a simple pin worn on the LEFT (top) or RIGHT (bottom), like one would do with flagging keys/hankies left or right?

As much as I admire the simplicity, I, as a bottom (of sorts) would have to wear a pin on the right side, which is a big no no.  Pins should be worn on the left side, above the breast pocket (if wearing something with a breast pocket) or in thet general area.

This should be discreet enough that anyone can wear it, so it should definitely not be a fashion faux pas.

Yours,


benji

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

Who is setting the protocol? Where is this written that pins don't go on the right?  I grew up in a military family, and most certainly, there is protocol for every pin, button and emblem that adorns a uniform, be it from a work uni to class A's -- and they appear on both sides of various uniforms.

Would it not be standout that it was in a very particular place, left for some, right for the other?  It seems like you're trying to cross some other tradition into the 50-some year old 'left is top, right is bottom' SM flagging symbolism.

Maybe het folks are that paranoid that they might be mistaken for the gay culture for "doing the same as they do" that they  need to reinvent the wheel?  Hmmm

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
After a quick Google search, I discovered that in North American culture, there is nothing wrong with wearing pins, nametags and such on the right.

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In Europe, traditionally everything is worn above the left pocket, as it distracts less attention from your face there.  Subconsciously, your eyes scan someone starting at their left hand, across their body at their bellybutton, up their right side, across the face, then down the left side and to the right hand, making a sort of figure 8.  This means that if the pin is on the right side, it will be noticed before the face, if it is on the left side, it will be noticed after.