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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Oh no come on...you know that is just fantasy BS. 

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possible common law marriage

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ORIGINAL: Tavane



I read an article on a FLR site .

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ORIGINAL: Tavane

FLR means Female Led Relationship, where the female is the head of the household, like the male was in the 1950's, and the male is the subordinate/supportive person in the relationship. 

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ORIGINAL: Tavane

You could draft several types of legal documents which would make a sub a financial slave legally to the female. For example, youi could go to a casino and sign a promissory note witnessed by people, which says you lost big, and she won big, and she had loaned you $100,000, and you agreed to repay that by giving her all your money until  it was repaid, and agreeing that she'll provide you with room and board so long as you do her domestic chores and whatever else she wants at her home, and you could give her a mortgage on your house, etc, to make it more enforceable.A court would enforce that. You could always leave, but if so, she could  sue you, garnish your wages, foreclose on your home, etc, but you could file bankruptcy if you wished.

You could even agree that  you had assaulted her, and you are setting her claim against you for $25,000 or whatever, and have the same provisions as above, except this would be nondischargeable in bankruptcy, since it was an intentional act, and you'd agree to that in the agreement.

You could also, if you were going to marry, transfer all your assets to her, and then  enter into a prenuptial agreement that in the case of a divorce, each party keeps whatever assets (s)he owns at the time of the marriage, and will keep all assets in his or her name at the time of a divorce. Then if the husband has no bank accounts, but deposits all his income into her accounts, and she keeps all vehicles and real estate in her name during the marriage, he would have nothing in the case of a divorce, so would be very motivated to obey her and stay married. Tax implications only arise if the property is very valuable, and you could have an agreement which states that any property transferred to the other spouse during the marriage becomes that person's separate property, since there are no tax implicatons for gifts to a spouse. You could even state that in the case of a husband seeking a divorce, he will pay her spousal support of x amount for x years, but a court wouldn't enforce that if it was unreasonable, considering the incomes of the parties at the time of the divorce, and the duration of the marriage, depending on the law in that state.

There are many ways to achieve true financial slavery, which is as close as you can get to actual slavery, since money is freedom, and a slave would have a much better life as her slave than if he was destitute, so would be motivated to remain her slave, even if he'd prefer not to, but I can't imagine anyone doing this  unless they had been with a woman for  years, and was pretty certain it would be a permanent relationship. I also find the idea very exciting, and entered into an agreement with a femele friend which said I owed her $1000, but would do her laundry and her nails and give her foot massages for a period of time, and obey her during that period, and I found it extremely exciting. Too exciting, frankly. The power of submissive pleasure has probably allowed women to strip lots of subs of their assets in some cases. You'd need to be very careful about that kind of thing, and masturbate before you ever signed any agreement, so it wasn't executed in the heights of sexual submissive pleasure, which can be overwheming.

I read an article on a FLR site where a female doctor wanted her husband to be a househusband, and she prepared a letter of resignation for him to resign from his job, and got him turned on in bed, and excited by his submissive desires, and he signed it, and she mailed it in, and she really felt empowered that she had forced him to be her stay at home househusband, so she could have kids without worrying about day care, since he'd raise them and be her househusband forever.

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: jayeyre1980

i have had my own views on being a slave, and i was recently selected by a Domme Who shares these same ideas. By non-consensual enslavement, i really do mean W/we both know there is no end to it. The possibilites of  a living will saying She gets everything, power-of-attourney signed over to Her, possible common law marriage for the means of a  prenuptual agreement saying also, She gets everything (this all being so that in the eyes of U.S. law She really would Own me). Only hard limits being that anything outside of hospitalization and death is not a limit, those sort of things, and Her seeming to be the type to really be able to do this. i am honestly enthralled by Her. i have been waiting patiently for a potential Owner to have these same ideas that i have. Does anyone out there have any advice or true expierence in this subject matter? And if yes, what do you really think about it.?

The real question is how well do you know this person in real life and how long have you been dating. It's exciting to think about, but too many subs are thinking about this kind of thing when they should be thinking about what she wants for Valentine's Day, and how she likes to be kissed. Have you met her yet? How long have you been intimate?

Akasha

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

You can create legal, binding documents that entitle her to everything you have, give her power over your life in many ways, but she'll never legally own you. However, that doesn't mean that she won't own your heart. If it makes the both of you happy and fulfilled, do it. However, I suggest not doing it lightly...you've said that she's not actually said she wants to go that route. That, first, has to be settled. Even if she says yes, take time...like a year or two...before making up your mind. Just my opinion.

Oh, and go read up on internal enslavement. You might find it appealing.

Master Fire

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ORIGINAL: Tavane
There is something so "real" about the relationship at that point,

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: Tavane
There is something so "real" about the relationship at that point,

The definition of "real" is: "exists in reality," not, "speaks amazingly well to my fantasies."

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And yes, this does take one hell of alot of trust. If She isn't willing to take control of me, mind body, and soul, as i am before i am claimed, then She doesn't need to control any of me. my former Owner advised me before my release that i should be patient, and wait for the Owner that will want the whole of who i am as a person before They claim me. Trust me...i'm not so silly as to go into this blind, or out of thinking with "the wrong head". i know what i hope for in an Owner, and yes, i do want this type of Ownership, but it takes trust. i'm not going to give up control of myself to Someone that doesn't want to take control of all of me, nor do i want a potential Owner that is going to want some watered down version of what She's looking for. This all does work both ways.