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rubberpet -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 11:38:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lilgirl2008 quote: ORIGINAL: rubberpet While I agree with you that he is technically owed nothing in regards to an explanation why, I do believe he, as well as anyone else, is entitled to an honest reply. Lynnxz, I think if you wrote to someone that really interested you and they completely blew you off with what you thought was a lame excuse, I think you'd be annoyed and would certainly appreciate an honest explanation why. I think anyone that gets blown off feels the same way. I know I would. It's just common courtesy. Unfortunately, not everyone on here seems to have manners. I think it's just human nature to question why you are turned down or rejected. The guy has a curiosity. I don't think it's unreasonable. I don't want to hijack this thread but I completely disagree with you. If someone writes to me on this site, I feel no obligation to reply. I didn't ask them to write to me. So if I answered ever single lame email I recieved that said "hi", I would be spending hours and hours answering emails. I also don't feel I owe anyone an explanation if I am not interested in them. For one, I don't want to be rude or hurt their feelings. I simply say "I am sorry I am not interested". Unless they really want to hear the truth, that they are too old or too fat or not domly enough. If someone says to me they are not interested, I leave it at that, because I don't really want to know the reasons. It is not common courtesy for me to reply to any honry net geek who feels the need to contact me. BTW it clearly states on my profile that I am not seeking anything, and I probably get 20 emails a day, sometimes it doesn't matter what you write in a profile does it? I see your point. No one is under any obligation to give a reason why they aren't interested. I agree with that 100%. The point I was trying to make was if he took time and put effort into writing a nice, well-written intro letter to someone that was clearly looking with similar interests, I feel the least the recipient can do is have the courtesy to offer a gentle letdown instead of a blow-off if not interested. I've had a few dommes respond with a gentle rejection, so when I did receive their replies, I was OK with it and moved on. When I did get blown off, it hurt my feelings and upset me a bit. Courtesy and compassion aren't difficult to do, but I guess some people are more courteous than others. Now if he sent a letter to someone who isn't looking like the rest of the horny trolls out there just looking for jerkoff material, then I don't think a reply is even necessary. Delete and ignore, easy as that. I just think a little common courtesy to those sincerely looking isn't such a bad thing. Put yourself in their shoes and see how much you'd like to be blown off. I can tell you it isn't a nice feeling. Being rejected is not a pleasant experience to start with. Being rudely blown off after a sincere intro hurts worse.

hardbodysub -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 11:48:32 AM)
I agree with mummy that there's no need to lie if you're not interested in someone on CM. Even if you don't oppose lying philosophically (which I do), why bother concocting a falsehood here? Just say no, sorry. A couple other possibilities, farfetched, but maybe in the realm of possibility: (1) You can love cats, but still be allergic to them. Maybe this person finds latex fetishwear really attractive, but can't deal with it in person because of the allergy. (2) Some people don't realize that rubber IS latex. I know, they sound unlikely, but I've seen weirder things here.

Morniel -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 12:40:05 PM)
Well for one thing, keep in mind that LATEX is not the same as RUBBER. I know a lot of people who are horrendously allergic to latex (as someone above mentioned, allergies of many kinds are on the rise, possibly as a reaction to the way we manufacture things and so forth) but I know only a few people who are allergic to rubber. Just something to keep in mind; the words may be "interchangable" when discussing fetish and scene play, but the SUBSTANCES are not interchangable, and are two different things.

Andalusite -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 12:53:43 PM)
Most wearable rubber does have latex, but there are some kinds of rubber that do not. There are lots of rubber toys which are made of silicone or other hypoallergenic rubber, but most of them don't have the "stretchiness" needed for rubber clothing. I suppose they could make nitrile clothes, but so far, I've only seen gloves. I have seen rubber bondage tape that is non-latex.

mummyman321 -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 7:03:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rubberpet quote: ORIGINAL: lilgirl2008 quote: ORIGINAL: rubberpet While I agree with you that he is technically owed nothing in regards to an explanation why, I do believe he, as well as anyone else, is entitled to an honest reply. Lynnxz, I think if you wrote to someone that really interested you and they completely blew you off with what you thought was a lame excuse, I think you'd be annoyed and would certainly appreciate an honest explanation why. I think anyone that gets blown off feels the same way. I know I would. It's just common courtesy. Unfortunately, not everyone on here seems to have manners. I think it's just human nature to question why you are turned down or rejected. The guy has a curiosity. I don't think it's unreasonable. I don't want to hijack this thread but I completely disagree with you. If someone writes to me on this site, I feel no obligation to reply. I didn't ask them to write to me. So if I answered ever single lame email I recieved that said "hi", I would be spending hours and hours answering emails. I also don't feel I owe anyone an explanation if I am not interested in them. For one, I don't want to be rude or hurt their feelings. I simply say "I am sorry I am not interested". Unless they really want to hear the truth, that they are too old or too fat or not domly enough. If someone says to me they are not interested, I leave it at that, because I don't really want to know the reasons. It is not common courtesy for me to reply to any honry net geek who feels the need to contact me. BTW it clearly states on my profile that I am not seeking anything, and I probably get 20 emails a day, sometimes it doesn't matter what you write in a profile does it? I see your point. No one is under any obligation to give a reason why they aren't interested. I agree with that 100%. The point I was trying to make was if he took time and put effort into writing a nice, well-written intro letter to someone that was clearly looking with similar interests, I feel the least the recipient can do is have the courtesy to offer a gentle letdown instead of a blow-off if not interested. I've had a few dommes respond with a gentle rejection, so when I did receive their replies, I was OK with it and moved on. When I did get blown off, it hurt my feelings and upset me a bit. Courtesy and compassion aren't difficult to do, but I guess some people are more courteous than others. Now if he sent a letter to someone who isn't looking like the rest of the horny trolls out there just looking for jerkoff material, then I don't think a reply is even necessary. Delete and ignore, easy as that. I just think a little common courtesy to those sincerely looking isn't such a bad thing. Put yourself in their shoes and see how much you'd like to be blown off. I can tell you it isn't a nice feeling. Being rejected is not a pleasant experience to start with. Being rudely blown off after a sincere intro hurts worse. Well said!

hardbodysub -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 7:12:34 PM)
Natural rubber IS latex. Some synthetics can be latex not from the rubber plant, but in most cases the two words are virtually interchangeable. Latex A rubber material which gloves and condoms are made from. Mentioned in: Isolation Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved. latex [lā′teks] Etymology: L, liquid an emulsion or fluidlike sap produced in special cells or vessels of certain plants. Latex contains resins, proteins, and other substances and is a source of rubber. It can cause allergic reactions in some individuals. Mosby's Medical Dictionary, 8th edition. © 2009, Elsevier. latex (lā´teks), n natural rubber. latex allergy, n a hypersensitivity to natural rubber latex in which symptoms may range from minor skin irritations, hives, itchy eyes, and runny nose to asthma and life-threatening anaphylaxis. Because many items used during dental procedures contain rubber latex, patients should be routinely screened for this allergy. Mosby's Dental Dictionary, 2nd edition. © 2008 Elsevier, Inc. All rights reserved. latex A lactescent gel of molecular homogeneity, obtained from plants and composed of microglobules of natural rubber; latex may be airborne, and is present in latex gloves, dental rubber dams, condoms, barium enema catheters, other medical devices, and tires/tyres Lab medicine Latex-like particles–eg, neoprene, polyvinylchloride, polystyrene, and synthetic 'rubbers'; latexes are inert vehicles that may be used to carry antibodies or antigens in latex agglutination immunoassays; or rubber latex-like plastic monomer used to manufacture minute plastic beads of polystyrene

mummyman321 -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 7:13:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Morniel Well for one thing, keep in mind that LATEX is not the same as RUBBER. I know a lot of people who are horrendously allergic to latex (as someone above mentioned, allergies of many kinds are on the rise, possibly as a reaction to the way we manufacture things and so forth) but I know only a few people who are allergic to rubber. Just something to keep in mind; the words may be "interchangable" when discussing fetish and scene play, but the SUBSTANCES are not interchangable, and are two different things. quote: ORIGINAL: Andalusite Most wearable rubber does have latex, but there are some kinds of rubber that do not. There are lots of rubber toys which are made of silicone or other hypoallergenic rubber, but most of them don't have the "stretchiness" needed for rubber clothing. I suppose they could make nitrile clothes, but so far, I've only seen gloves. I have seen rubber bondage tape that is non-latex. Though this was not the original topic in the post I will respond. Latex and rubber are used interchangably but there is a difference. Latex is technically the sap from the rubber tree. Rubber on the other hand can be made via petrochemicals sythetically without latex. Latex allergy is a reaction to a protein in the sap of the rubber tree. If someone who is sensitive touches or breathes the protein, he or she can have an allergic reaction.

hardbodysub -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 7:14:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andalusite Most wearable rubber does have latex, but there are some kinds of rubber that do not. There are lots of rubber toys which are made of silicone or other hypoallergenic rubber, but most of them don't have the "stretchiness" needed for rubber clothing. I suppose they could make nitrile clothes, but so far, I've only seen gloves. I have seen rubber bondage tape that is non-latex. Silicone is not rubber. It's silicone. A different substance entirely. If the "rubber" bondage tape is non-latex, then it's really not natural rubber, but a synthetic substitute.

hardbodysub -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 7:23:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Morniel Well for one thing, keep in mind that LATEX is not the same as RUBBER. I know a lot of people who are horrendously allergic to latex (as someone above mentioned, allergies of many kinds are on the rise, possibly as a reaction to the way we manufacture things and so forth) but I know only a few people who are allergic to rubber. Just something to keep in mind; the words may be "interchangable" when discussing fetish and scene play, but the SUBSTANCES are not interchangable, and are two different things. I think that's misleading. The words generally refer to the same substance. People aren't allergic to latex but not rubber; what they're allergic to is the exact same substance. People are confused about that because of the terminology; they don't call them "rubber gloves" any more, they call them "latex gloves", but the substance is the same. Another thing that confuses people is that the application of rubber in a more inert form (such as auto tires) doesn't get into the air and onto people's skin and into their respiratory systems as readily as the rubber in thin, powdered latex medical gloves. The more inert forms are more commonly referred to as rubber, while products of the less inert form are more commonly called latex. But they're not a completely different substance. That's my understanding.

hardbodysub -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 7:29:09 PM)
quote: Latex is technically the sap from the rubber tree. Yes, as I was saying. quote: Rubber on the other hand can be made via petrochemicals sythetically without latex. Not real rubber. A synthetic substitute. Rubber really comes only from the rubber tree. quote: Latex allergy is a reaction to a protein in the sap of the rubber tree. Yes. If you're allergic to latex, you are allergic to something in rubber.

Andalusite -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/16/2009 11:07:55 PM)
I consider "rubber" to be a generic term which encompasses natural latex rubber from trees, and synthetics with a rubbery texture. YMMV. [:D] Anyway, some people are very sensitive to products which are billed as latex, but do not react to the more inert form, even of natural rubber. So, they say they're allergic to latex, since they can touch their car tires to inflate them, but can't wear a latex hood or whatever. Sure, it isn't scientifically accurate, but most people understand that usage.

MG4Apuppygirl -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/17/2009 12:20:41 AM)
Plenty of people list their fondness for puppy/pony play too, but when it comes to the crunch are completely full of shit. I have learned to just use the block option, rather than waste my time.

littlesarbonn -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/17/2009 12:31:52 AM)
There's one other thing to keep in mind as well, and that's that a lot of people in the health industry will avoid latex as much as possible because you can develop a latex allergy, so they put themselves into minimal contact with it. I never knew this until I actually worked for a hospital system where I saw this firsthand.

Andalusite -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/17/2009 9:14:55 AM)
MG, lots of people do enjoy pony and puppy play within a scene, but aren't interested in a 24/7 dynamic based on it. That doesn't mean they're full of it, or lying, just that they desire a different level of intensity. That's actually a good point though, that relates to the OP. One person's "rubber bondage" is being secured by Neoprene cuffs, and another's is a vacubed or a "House of Gord" type of objectification/complete coverage situation that might make the first person feel claustrophobic. A lot of people have limits of degree rather than kind.

whiteslavebitch -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/17/2009 9:19:37 AM)
Well, I'm not searching, but when I get emails from doms showing interest (who knows why since my profile is essentially blank and clearly states that I'm owned.) I just state that I'm owned, not looking for a relationship, and wish them well in their search.

hardbodysub -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/17/2009 9:28:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn There's one other thing to keep in mind as well, and that's that a lot of people in the health industry will avoid latex as much as possible because you can develop a latex allergy, so they put themselves into minimal contact with it. I never knew this until I actually worked for a hospital system where I saw this firsthand. That's right. Patients who have had a lot of exposure to latex, due to multiple surgeries, etc., are sometimes counseled to avoid latex for the same reason. Repeated exposure can lead to sensitivity.

hardbodysub -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/17/2009 9:35:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andalusite I consider "rubber" to be a generic term which encompasses natural latex rubber from trees, and synthetics with a rubbery texture. YMMV. [:D] Anyway, some people are very sensitive to products which are billed as latex, but do not react to the more inert form, even of natural rubber. So, they say they're allergic to latex, since they can touch their car tires to inflate them, but can't wear a latex hood or whatever. Sure, it isn't scientifically accurate, but most people understand that usage. I was pretty sure that was where you were coming from, so didn't really want to say you were "wrong". You're just using a broader definition of the word rubber. But I think that using "rubber" so loosely can obscure the fact that a latex allergy is a natural rubber allergy, and that can be dangerous. Some people with latex allergy might think that they're safe with "rubber" products, when in many cases, they are one and the same.

DesFIP -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/17/2009 9:51:36 AM)
Her sensitivity to latex may have developed in the years since she filled out her profile. It may not yet be a life threatening allergy but she may have decided she wants as little contact as possible to prevent that from happening. Since it is well known that a slight allergy will become worse with repeated exposure. She may be looking for a sub but that doesn't mean she's looking for the op. She sent back a reply which may have been meant to say no thanks in such a way that she didn't then get the usual response to rejection; ie "you're too fat to fuck anyway bitch" sort of email. And to a rubber fetishist a response of allergy would prevent her from getting emails on a daily basis from a sub who doesn't get that no response is a response of no thanks.

hardbodysub -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/17/2009 10:10:29 AM)
quote: Her sensitivity to latex may have developed in the years since she filled out her profile. Good point. I hadn't thought of that one. A lot of us don't revisit the profile for long periods.

Maya2001 -> RE: Latex Allergy - Question and Rant (2/18/2009 12:16:18 AM)
It is pretty sad when people feel the need to lie like that rather than having the balls to say sorry I am not interested I hope you sent a condolence note , expressing how painful it must have been... to peel that rubber suit off of her poor blistered body.

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