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Amaros -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 8:12:24 AM)

I sometimes think about this in terms of celebrity, which is sort of a pranic exchange - i.e., the celebrity feeds off the adoration of the public, the public feeds off the celebrities energy, and ideally, there is a balance here - so in this analogy, Britanny Spears was sorta sucked dry, maybe all the teenage boys perving on her, I dunno.




Gwynvyd -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 9:18:23 AM)

there is actually a bit of truth to that. Yes when you have many who adore you, and send you energy by thinking of you... even if it is a wank fashion then yes... you recive energy from them. However if you do not have your own supply route for energy.. or if you arent grounded and it just dries up and goes away then you will fall flat on your face.

I bet this is why so many has been starlettes have so many issues after their 10 mins is up.

So much energy then nothing. Or negative energy comming through.

Gwyn





PommeDeMonSang -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 3:31:36 PM)

Negative energy drains me and i havnt figured out fully how to trasfer it to positive so that i could absorb pets negative to give her more positive.

thats a loop hole i havnt figured out yet




FelineFae -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 3:35:48 PM)

throwing mydol at me is a lot easier.[:D]




Vendaval -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 3:46:00 PM)

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I think most people can relate to knowing someone who make them feel mellow or happy just by their simple presence.  And in contrast, someone who makes them feel drained whenever they show up.  Filters and shields are a daily necessity when dealing with humans at large and especially in course quarters.  Physical exercise helps rid the body and your own personal energy of negativity and alcohol/drug abuse will seriously mess with all you circuits and wiring.




dovie -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 3:50:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Maxwell67

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

what is prana?

This is an ancient concept.  Prana is sanskrit for "breath"  and most Eastern religious and/or philosophical/metaphysical systems hold it in very high regard.  In truth, it is so deeply ingrained that is is no longer metaphysical but part and parcel of the whole foundation of their society.  The Chinese call it 'qi', (or in some provinces, 'hei') the Japanese call it 'ki', the Koreans call it 'hanja', The Veitnamese and Thai call it 'khi.'  You get the picture.  George Lucas call it 'the force' hehe... it is all the same thing, really.

It is the flow of life energy through ourselves and the world we live in.  It cannot be quantified, so as 'real' as it may be, there is no scientific way to even prove it's existence in a way that most Western minds can understand, nor can we prove that the various techniques which have developed over the millenia for manipulating it actually do anything, although things like Kirlian photography do at least provide us with empiric evidence of it.  Still, the longevity and pervasiveness of the concept makes it difficult to just remove it from consideration entirely.  I can say with confidence that Yogic pranayama exercises and such do seem to do something beneficial for us.  Reiki, accupuncture, and accupressure are all rooted in this concept and Tantric sex is impossible without an understanding of how prana works.  From my own experience, spending time working with actors in exercises that deal with prana has had a profound effect on their work, whether it is a placebo effect or not (I suspect not, but skeptics abound, especially here in CM, so I am careful to qualify my statements about it).

And now, apaparently, there is also a form of vampirism that deals with it.  Well, I have to say, that of all the approaches to vampirism that have existed since it came into vogue, this is probably the most enlightened, and one which may actually be worth doing a little extra reading to find out more about.




Thank you Maxwell67 for this explanation. This is fascinating and I too want to learn more.

Regards,
dovie




domiguy -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 3:51:47 PM)

I once sucked all of the energy out of a sub.   She just layed there, deflated and lifeless like a used condom.   I ran to the fridge to get an energy drink in the hopes that it's mystical powers might rejuvinate my dying prize.  Alas, as I cradled her head and brought the drink up to her lips I realized that it was the last Monster Energy Drink in the house.  I had to let her go....Now she is gone.

Time to redo my profile.  And the hunt once again begins.




dovie -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 4:02:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

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ORIGINAL: MsFlutter

Is this within the realm - does any of this sound related? Its not like I could ever really ask somebody. I'm fascinated by this topic and would love to hear from those who have insight.


You're psychically sensitive.  Most energy workers and shamen are to varying degrees.  However, it doesn't mean you're a pranic vampire.  There are a lot of interpretations of what it means to be a vampire.  However, what I have found to be the only common denomonator is how doing energy work (or not doing it) affects physical health.  For those of us who consider ourselves vampires, we feed because we need. 
 
Most people get the energy they need to be healthy from food, rest, and routine interaction with friends.  Vampires don't.  We still eat, sleep, and like to have fun with people, but our energy needs are greater than the average person.  If we don't take energy from an outside source, we get sick.  As an example, a friend of mine was born with a heart defect.  By the time she was six years old, she'd had open heart surgery.  In college, she tried to go without feeding because she wanted to see if it was all in her head.  After a couple of months, she collapsed in class and ended up in the hospital.  The medical staff asked her if she had a will and wanted to know how to contact her next of kin.  She wasn't expected to leave the hospital alive.  She called her donor to come to the hospital and she fed.  A few days later, she walked out in perfect health.
 
For most of us, it's not that dramatic but it's still real enough to impact our lives.  We might sleep for 12 hours without feeling rested, experience migraines, nausea, or any of a number of physical ailments.  Once we take energy from a donor, all of those ailments go away.  If that resonates with you, then it's possible you're a pranic vampire.  If not, then it's more likely you're another type of energy worker.  There are plenty of people who work with energy who aren't vampires.  People who practice reiki and tai chi are the ones most people are familiar with.


thank you, thank you, thank you!...still reading thread

Regards,
dovie




dovie -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 4:11:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I once sucked all of the energy out of a sub.   She just layed there, deflated and lifeless like a used condom.   I ran to the fridge to get an energy drink in the hopes that it's mystical powers might rejuvinate my dying prize.  Alas, as I cradled her head and brought the drink up to her lips I realized that it was the last Monster Energy Drink in the house.  I had to let her go....Now she is gone.

Time to redo my profile.  And the hunt once again begins.


domiguy, you are such a card. what card says he? why the Queen of hearts of course. "off with his head!" which is not the first time that statement was used. can you tell me where it was originally used? err... lol...[sm=donttaseme.gif]

Regards,
dovie




PommeDeMonSang -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 10:19:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FelineFae

throwing mydol at me is a lot easier.[:D]


ill remember that pet though it barely helps me lol




PommeDeMonSang -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/21/2009 10:20:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

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I think most people can relate to knowing someone who make them feel mellow or happy just by their simple presence.  And in contrast, someone who makes them feel drained whenever they show up.  Filters and shields are a daily necessity when dealing with humans at large and especially in course quarters.  Physical exercise helps rid the body and your own personal energy of negativity and alcohol/drug abuse will seriously mess with all you circuits and wiring.


ooooooo ill rememeber the energy and exercise for sure.




Vendaval -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/22/2009 1:45:21 AM)

You might have a great shot at another sub if you say that your love juices are calorie free and full of caffeine.  Just because...




Vendaval -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/22/2009 1:46:27 AM)

dovie,
 
I am not sure but think that the Queen of Hearts reference comes from Alice in Wonderland.




Amaros -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/22/2009 7:45:34 AM)

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I think most people can relate to knowing someone who make them feel mellow or happy just by their simple presence.  And in contrast, someone who makes them feel drained whenever they show up.  Filters and shields are a daily necessity when dealing with humans at large and especially in course quarters.  Physical exercise helps rid the body and your own personal energy of negativity and alcohol/drug abuse will seriously mess with all you circuits and wiring.
It's a concept in therapy that borderline personality disorders are characterized by intense, negative energy, and it's characterized as "draining". Part of therapeutic training is to learn to not react defensively to this.

Borderline itself is defined as a lowering of the limnal barrier between conscious and subconscious - in schizophrenia, the limn may be breached entirely: conscious and subconscious mix freely, resulting in hallucinations, paranoia, etc. - neurologically, all the neurons in the brain are firing in random patterns, often all at once, and the result is something like an information overload, the ego is unable to keep this data organized, the individual becomes overwhelmed by the sheer volume of data, requiring massive effort to distinguish between objective and subjective.

Borderline is tricker, and actually presents a greater theraputic challenge, as the borderline appears to be able to cross and recross the limn more or less at will: the borderline is not paralytic, but much  more in control.




dovie -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/22/2009 8:00:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

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I think most people can relate to knowing someone who make them feel mellow or happy just by their simple presence.  And in contrast, someone who makes them feel drained whenever they show up.  Filters and shields are a daily necessity when dealing with humans at large and especially in course quarters.  Physical exercise helps rid the body and your own personal energy of negativity and alcohol/drug abuse will seriously mess with all you circuits and wiring.
It's a concept in therapy that borderline personality disorders are characterized by intense, negative energy, and it's characterized as "draining". Part of therapeutic training is to learn to not react defensively to this.

Borderline itself is defined as a lowering of the limnal barrier between conscious and subconscious - in schizophrenia, the limn may be breached entirely: conscious and subconscious mix freely, resulting in hallucinations, paranoia, etc. - neurologically, all the neurons in the brain are firing in random patterns, often all at once, and the result is something like an information overload, the ego is unable to keep this data organized, the individual becomes overwhelmed by the sheer volume of data, requiring massive effort to distinguish between objective and subjective.

Borderline is tricker, and actually presents a greater theraputic challenge, as the borderline appears to be able to cross and recross the limn more or less at will: the borderline is not paralytic, but much  more in control.




Amaros,

First, let me say I've admired your writings and responses on this board.
Regarding your response here about borderlines; oh my goodness yes!!! There couldn't be a more apt description. I've had more than my share of encounters in a professional setting with persons having this specific disorder. After a disastrous incident with one such person, I refused to work with anyone having this as a primary disorder. It took a lot of energy work and guidance from my mentors to recover.

I've become hyper-vigilant when I encounter anyone I suspect is a borderline or has borderline behaviors. Some have managed to find some balance in their lives, however, I remain cautious. Have a splendid day.

Regards,
dovie




Amaros -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/22/2009 8:12:39 AM)

Thanks Dovie, you have a lovely smile, and nice tootsies, I love the toenails!




Amaros -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/22/2009 9:00:43 AM)

It also may be true that those borderlines who find themselves in therapy, are those who are having mostly negative effects on themselves and others - I've known people who had that borderline effect who, while sometimes trying to be around, had an overall positive impact on my life - these people do what they want to do, essentially, and they are really neither dominant or submissive, though they may behave in either way if it amuses them - they are independent, and often highly unpredictable, and tend to elude attempts to control them in any way, but are not typically overly controlling themselves. They may go along, but they aren't really "team players" and will tend to follow their own self interests rather than sublimating them to a common goal.

It's this resistance to being controlled that often lands them in therapy to begin with, IMO, and by that time they may have developed considerable active and passive defenses.




Amaros -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/22/2009 9:18:06 AM)

They can be very destructive if these defenses have shielded them from healthy ego development.

Aileen Wuornos suffered from acute, pathological borderline disorder, the disorder is not always associated with psychopathy, but it is sometime associated with compulsive or violent behavior: we all need some degree of social contact, and if there is too much conflict between the need for social acceptance and the heightened need for individuation, behavior may become erratic - stalkers for example, and the movie Fatal Attraction is partially based on Aileen Wuornos.





Gwynvyd -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/22/2009 1:27:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Fast Reply -
 
I think most people can relate to knowing someone who make them feel mellow or happy just by their simple presence.  And in contrast, someone who makes them feel drained whenever they show up.  Filters and shields are a daily necessity when dealing with humans at large and especially in course quarters.  Physical exercise helps rid the body and your own personal energy of negativity and alcohol/drug abuse will seriously mess with all you circuits and wiring.
It's a concept in therapy that borderline personality disorders are characterized by intense, negative energy, and it's characterized as "draining". Part of therapeutic training is to learn to not react defensively to this.

Borderline itself is defined as a lowering of the limnal barrier between conscious and subconscious - in schizophrenia, the limn may be breached entirely: conscious and subconscious mix freely, resulting in hallucinations, paranoia, etc. - neurologically, all the neurons in the brain are firing in random patterns, often all at once, and the result is something like an information overload, the ego is unable to keep this data organized, the individual becomes overwhelmed by the sheer volume of data, requiring massive effort to distinguish between objective and subjective.

Borderline is tricker, and actually presents a greater theraputic challenge, as the borderline appears to be able to cross and recross the limn more or less at will: the borderline is not paralytic, but much  more in control.



Boarderline is very hard to diagnose properly.. but once it is properly diagnosed.. you just shake your head and go Yup.. that's what it is alright.

My ex is boarderline, ADHD, and a high cycling manic depressive person. I dealt with it for 7 years.

Talking about a nightmarish hell.

The negativity came off of her in waves large enough to knock down the Sears Tower.

Regular folk learned to shield her very well... or would just never come back around. ( Most of my friends did not want her around.. and didnt want her in their homes. )

Fun stuff.

Gwyn




Sanguinarian -> RE: Pranic Vampirism (2/22/2009 1:30:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LunaVenus

Do any practice Pranic Vampirism with their slaves? Thoughts and techniques?


What about practicing actual vampirism upon one's slaves/pets/submissives?




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