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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/22/2009 11:49:00 AM   
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Thats unfair of Williams to say that that she has indirect wins over all whom roddick had defeated


She wasn't being unfair. She was joking. Players do the "indirect win" thing all the time. Everybody knows it's not serious.

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/22/2009 11:51:37 AM   
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Do you agree that girls can beat guys in reality shows like survivor where they have won more then guys in and in physical contests and in Apperntice which relates more to mental aspect.



Now let's not start using the results of "reality" shows like "The Apprentice" to prove theories of evolution and natural selection.  If God has that bad of a comb-over, I will gladly go straight to hell (see other post). 

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I am completely with you, YoursMistress, on this one. Although, I think in hell we'd be forced to continually watch re-runs of "reality" shows.

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/22/2009 4:23:15 PM   
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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/22/2009 11:17:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		When it comes to athletics, women have no chance at world class levels against men at that level; not even close, but world class women can beat most men. Serena beat Roddick when they were 10  years old or something. At that age there isn't much difference between the sexes, and some high school freshmen females do wrestle against boys their age and weight, but by the time they are sophomores, the males are well into puberty and the females have no chance. I remember when Serena and Venus first started dominating, and made some comments, and some guy who was ranked about #500 said he could crush them, and he played both of them and did crush them. None of the women could beat the NCAA men's tournament players, but could beat many male college players.

In golf, the best women can beat the PGA men now and then. Annika certainly did when she played against them. She got nervous and didn't make the cut at Colonial, but still beat lots of the men.

Female basketball players have really gotten skilled, but any really good high school boys' team would crush the best female teams in the world. The women just don't jump, and aren't strong enough to deal with guys.

Females are very good athletes, so long as they compete against females, but female time records are sometimes better than male records of many years ago, in some sports. When it comes to a total athletic game like basketball, even though it's non-contact in principle, females have no chance whatsoever, against good male players, even if those males are high school boys.

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/23/2009 1:20:25 AM   
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I was in grade school in 1973, when Billie Jean King played Bobby Riggs in the "Battle of the Sexes", and we actually set up a gender-clashing badminton game to settle things "once and for all."  The girls won.

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That's a very bad example. Billie Jean was #1 in the world, and in the prime of her career. It could be argued she was the best female player ever. Bobby Riggs had been retired from the pro tour for about 20 years. Riggs was a good player in his prime but definitely not one of the greatest. Even then it wasn't easy for Billie to win. If Riggs was 5 years younger he probably would have won.

I was a high school tennis player at the time and couldn't care less who won the match, because I knew it was "Rigged". At the high school level you had some girls that could beat lower ranked boys, but it was very rare. A top ranked high school boy wouldn't lose to a top ranked girl unless she was pro material.

That King/Riggs match showed just how superior men are at tennis.

I like dominant women, and I think in many respects they are superior, but using sports to prove their superiority just won't work, unless perhaps you want to compare women on a gymnastics beam or doing yoga.

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/23/2009 3:20:30 AM   
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Lockit wrote: I wanted bobby to lose simply becasue he was an ass towards women... to the day he died he continued to not see the lesson he should have learned that day so long ago...

Of course he didn't learn anything: he couldn't lose.  If he won the game, he `proved that men are superior'; if he lost the game, well, who's surprised that a 29-year-old who'd won three Grand Slams the year before, can beat a 55-year-old retired guy?  When somebody loses a game like that, he just shrugs and says, `Well, of course, I'd have beaten her easily, back when I was on the pro tour.'


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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/24/2009 10:49:22 AM   
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Lockit wrote: I wanted bobby to lose simply becasue he was an ass towards women... to the day he died he continued to not see the lesson he should have learned that day so long ago...

Of course he didn't learn anything: he couldn't lose.  If he won the game, he `proved that men are superior'; if he lost the game, well, who's surprised that a 29-year-old who'd won three Grand Slams the year before, can beat a 55-year-old retired guy?  When somebody loses a game like that, he just shrugs and says, `Well, of course, I'd have beaten her easily, back when I was on the pro tour.'


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He should have not challenged her as it is the most talked about battle of the sexes match and it gave the females the bragging rights which no one can deny now..

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/24/2009 10:52:35 AM   
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When it comes to athletics, women have no chance at world class levels against men at that level; not even close, but world class women can beat most men. Serena beat Roddick when they were 10  years old or something. At that age there isn't much difference between the sexes, and some high school freshmen females do wrestle against boys their age and weight, but by the time they are sophomores, the males are well into puberty and the females have no chance. I remember when Serena and Venus first started dominating, and made some comments, and some guy who was ranked about #500 said he could crush them, and he played both of them and did crush them. None of the women could beat the NCAA men's tournament players, but could beat many male college players.

In golf, the best women can beat the PGA men now and then. Annika certainly did when she played against them. She got nervous and didn't make the cut at Colonial, but still beat lots of the men.

Female basketball players have really gotten skilled, but any really good high school boys' team would crush the best female teams in the world. The women just don't jump, and aren't strong enough to deal with guys.

Females are very good athletes, so long as they compete against females, but female time records are sometimes better than male records of many years ago, in some sports. When it comes to a total athletic game like basketball, even though it's non-contact in principle, females have no chance whatsoever, against good male players, even if those males are high school boys.



So what do you mean that girls beat guys at a certain age and what i feel is that most guys must have tasted defeat at the hands of the girls at that age and if you have some experiences to share thats what this thread is all about.. so its decided serena legitimately defeated rodick at the age when most guys will anyway lose to gals..

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/24/2009 1:00:02 PM   
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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/24/2009 3:07:17 PM   
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beeble wrote: If he won the game, he `proved that men are superior'; if he lost the game, well, who's surprised that a 29-year-old who'd won three Grand Slams the year before, can beat a 55-year-old retired guy?

taziesubguy wrote: He should have not challenged her as it is the most talked about battle of the sexes match and it gave the females the bragging rights which no one can deny now..

Well, er, I just denied them, back there in the quoted text.  I mean, really.  What kind of idiot is surprised that a 29-year-old who'd won three Grand Slams the year before could beat a 55-year-old retired guy?  The surprise was that, four months earlier, he beat the 30-year-old who would go on to win three Grand Slams that year.

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/24/2009 9:13:00 PM   
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beeble wrote: If he won the game, he `proved that men are superior'; if he lost the game, well, who's surprised that a 29-year-old who'd won three Grand Slams the year before, can beat a 55-year-old retired guy?

taziesubguy wrote: He should have not challenged her as it is the most talked about battle of the sexes match and it gave the females the bragging rights which no one can deny now..

Well, er, I just denied them, back there in the quoted text.  I mean, really.  What kind of idiot is surprised that a 29-year-old who'd won three Grand Slams the year before could beat a 55-year-old retired guy?  The surprise was that, four months earlier, he beat the 30-year-old who would go on to win three Grand Slams that year.

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Now here lies the problem .. when he defeated Margret Court in her hey days it was considered perfectly normal for a tennis player to beat a female tennis player but as soon as he lost the stories of his age came up. I think we should hand over this win to the ladies and let them have the bragging rights. Well i am not sure..

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/24/2009 9:17:05 PM   
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The lesson I am talking about has nothing to do with the game and all to do about bobby's attitude and treatment of women.  But he taught me something... a pig is typically always a pig.


Very right the game was not important and the match is quoted always in reference of the MCP attitude till date

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/26/2009 9:10:35 PM   
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When it comes to athletics, women have no chance at world class levels against men at that level; not even close, but world class women can beat most men. Serena beat Roddick when they were 10  years old or something. At that age there isn't much difference between the sexes, and some high school freshmen females do wrestle against boys their age and weight, but by the time they are sophomores, the males are well into puberty and the females have no chance. I remember when Serena and Venus first started dominating, and made some comments, and some guy who was ranked about #500 said he could crush them, and he played both of them and did crush them. None of the women could beat the NCAA men's tournament players, but could beat many male college players.

In golf, the best women can beat the PGA men now and then. Annika certainly did when she played against them. She got nervous and didn't make the cut at Colonial, but still beat lots of the men.

Female basketball players have really gotten skilled, but any really good high school boys' team would crush the best female teams in the world. The women just don't jump, and aren't strong enough to deal with guys.

Females are very good athletes, so long as they compete against females, but female time records are sometimes better than male records of many years ago, in some sports. When it comes to a total athletic game like basketball, even though it's non-contact in principle, females have no chance whatsoever, against good male players, even if those males are high school boys.



Yes in  most sports top male athletes beat top female athletes but strong women beat men weaker to them in real life and this thread was relating to the same  fact that have you ever tasted defeat at the hands of women in sports or your work place and as a sub or a domme how do you feel about it.
BTw in lots of sports, women are better then men like Equestrian and long distance Swimming and i am sure that in coming years one will see quite close contests between the genders..

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/26/2009 10:15:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had already posted about my own experiences. I don't know about long distance swimming, but in super long distance running, women do have an advantage, because of body fat they can burn as energy (100 mile+  races). Wel'll never see the best women compete against the best men in sports which require strength, size, speed, and all-around athletism, since as a matter of evolution, males have a huge edge. It takes hundreds of thousands of years major evolutionarychanges to occur, and also some reason, in most cases. As a matter of reality, males have more reason than ever to be bigger and stronger than females, because of athletics, attractiveness, and self-esteem, so it will go in the opposite direction, if it changes, but it won't, as a matter of evolution. Boys do enjoy steroids, to grow muscles for athletics and to attract women and peer group admiration, so I expect the size and strength differences to increase, rather than decrease, if this remains popular with boys and men, especially with new drugs. Nearly all women could care less how strong or muscular they are. 

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/26/2009 11:24:44 PM   
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typically always

Is that like mostly usually? Often in every instance? heh :)
I like funny expressions we all use, than when we start to think about, get a little strange..

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 2/27/2009 12:09:36 AM   
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typically always

Is that like mostly usually? Often in every instance? heh :)
I like funny expressions we all use, than when we start to think about, get a little strange..



LOL... you should see some of the stuff I come up with!  This is nothing!  I am sure as the days pass... if you notice... you will see much better than that! lol  I can speak backwards without demonic influence... I can say the first sentence last and the middle first... I can use words you never heard of and mean all sorts of things. lol My brain now just typcially, always...lol.. works like that.  It is called dementia! lol

Wait till I call a tornado a whirly bird thingy... You really have to be in person to really get some of the stuff I can pull off!  But be prepared to laugh becasue if you don't... I will turn into a whirly bird thingy and that isn't pretty! hehe

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 3/1/2009 4:16:01 AM   
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Do you agree that girls can beat guys in reality shows like survivor where they have won more then guys in and in physical contests and in Apperntice which relates more to mental aspect.



Now let's not start using the results of "reality" shows like "The Apprentice" to prove theories of evolution and natural selection.  If God has that bad of a comb-over, I will gladly go straight to hell (see other post). 

yours



I am not talking about evaluation here what i simply asked was how do subs feel when they taste defeat at the hands of females and how do dommes feel when ladies come on top and it could be any sports event or in office or reality show where we these quite often now .

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 3/1/2009 7:54:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		This discussion of the Bobby Riggs/Billie Jean King tennis match reminds me of an episode of The Odd Couple in which both Riggs and King appeared as guest stars.  It was entitled "The Pig Who Came To Dinner," and it's probably one of the funniest episodes of that series. 

quote:

Miriam: Just what are you trying to prove, Mr. Riggs?
Bobby Riggs: Simply this -- that any man can beat any woman at anything, anywhere, anytime.
Miriam: Just like your match with Billie Jean King?
Bobby Riggs: What match? I don't remember any match.
Oscar: No, he told me that was a fluke. Somebody hid his vitamin pills.


Oscar ended up losing everything he owned to Riggs by losing at various games, such as cutting for high card, flipping cards into a hat, and betting that Oscar couldn't type his name correctly in ten seconds.  Oscar also lost Felix to Bobby Riggs, so Felix was required to become a charter member of "Riggs' Piggs." Later on, Felix won his freedom back by betting Riggs that he could hold a note longer, and then he was feeling cocky so he challenged Riggs to any game of his choice so he could win back all of Oscar's stuff.  Riggs chose Ping-Pong and spotted Felix and Oscar 19 points to start.  Riggs beat them both, of course, and said that he was feeling hot tonight and was ready to take on anyone.  So he checked to see who had the room next, and said, "Whoops" and tried to get out the door when Billie Jean King showed up.  She challenged him to Ping-Pong and Riggs was only willing to bet 50¢.  When they were getting into the game, Felix whispered to Oscar, "I'll bet we could take them in doubles." 

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RE: Females on top in real life.. - 3/6/2009 8:56:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another example came up last week .. The women won at the first episode of  The Celebrity Apprentice - 2 .. what i have seen over the years is that  women win more reality shows then the men if there is an episode featuring any kind of 'men vs women' situation.... i dunno why..

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