rulemylife
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Rule,
After 7+ years - I've accepted the fact that "justice" isn't possible. My personal feelings and experiences can not be affected by any 'justice' gained now. We HAD an obligation - after this much time, we have a National embarrassment; which has nothing whatsoever to do with President Obama, or his action to send troops there today.
Is it your argument that we have to fight them there so we don't have to fight them here? What happened to the idea being expressed not only on CM (not necessarily by you) but in Congress, that sending troops to Afghanistan and/or Iraq strengthened the resolve of the Taliban? Why is the clamor against escalating the war and sending more troops out of the US silent today?
This is hypocrisy at its highest level. Much of the electorate identified bringing the troops home as a reason to support the winning candidate. This troop announcement came out two days ago and not one peep of complaint or dissent!?
However this thread is about money. The Afghanistan reference was to another reference about the expense of foreign war, in particular Iraq, and how this President would not "waste" money the same way. Where is the outrage to this act of wasted resources, both collateral and human?
Personally, I think sending troops into Afghanistan is as futile as sending, and keeping them in Iraq. The locals don't want us. It provides a target of opportunity, and will not resolve the ultimate issues of the region. People there have been killing each other for centuries longer than the USA has existed. There is nothing we can, or should do, to stop them.
Regarding acts perpetrated on the US, as previously stated, my position is to use tactics similar to the Israeli approach. Strategic, definitive, over-blown, retaliation; if not directed to the specific source of the attack to people 'celebrating' it. Back in 2001, I supported blowing up a refinery or two in Iraq or any similarly happy land after 9/11 and announcing one more per day until Bin Laden was turned over to us.
Was Iraq responsible - frankly I didn't care. My position was that if they didn't do it - they knew who did. Terror is the only thing with will combat terrorists and terrorism. The USA wasn't prepared to do that then, and are definitely not prepared to do it now. Instead, we put 17,000 men and woman at risk. Is their blood your path, and definition, of justice served?
Yes, we do have a national embarrassment. But it's much more than that.
By not capturing Bin-Laden, as our cowboy hero promised "dead or alive", we've given them a rallying point, a hero of their own who attacked us with impunity and is still able to threaten us.
It has nothing to do with "fighting them there" and everything to do with us having a right to defend ourselves and pursue our attackers.
After 9/11 we sent 16,000 troops to Afghanistan. We sent ten times that to Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
The clamor you speak of was not because we were sending troops, but that we were sending troops to the wrong country.
I don't think there was anyone who questioned our right to invade Afghanistan. We had the support of the whole world. Instead of finishing the job we started there, the Bush administration used 9/11 as excuse to invade Iraq, which I believe was a goal they would have found a reason to do even if the terrorist attacks had not happened.
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This is hypocrisy at its highest level. Much of the electorate identified bringing the troops home as a reason to support the winning candidate. This troop announcement came out two days ago and not one peep of complaint or dissent!?
Hypocrisy?
The troop announcement came out two days ago?
The only hypocrisy here is the people on these boards who are pretending surprise and outrage at seeing Obama doing exactly what he promised to do during the campaign. Doing exactly what people voted him into office to do.
He said all along that he would pull troops from Iraq and reinforce troop levels in Afghanistan. Yet you are trying to portray it as something that came out of nowhere.
< Message edited by rulemylife -- 2/19/2009 11:08:11 PM >
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