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feydeplume -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 9:31:25 AM)

OP:
I have a little something to add to that etiquette point. Since you seem to be coming from a school of thought that says a sub/slave is to do what their Master says, do you also believe that you are an extension of your Master's will and His diplomat to the rest of the world, that your actions reflect on his skills and worthiness to hold the title of Master? I ask because there are those that do come from that school of thought on CM and when they, the sub/slave "says" something in the Ask a Master forum, it is BECAUSE they are being their Master's voice and extension of his will.

I know of no BDSM ideology/community that combines etiquette with a lack of reciprocity between the actions of the slave and the training of the Master. If there is one, please enlighten me as I am always keen to learn about new branches of the this life.

*this was the polite and PROPER way to address another slave in such a forum over a question of precedent and information unlike your little bitchfest attention whore act. And yes, those are my Master's words for your actions in this forum*




GreedyTop -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 9:31:57 AM)

LOL true dat, tazzy!!




tazzygirl -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 9:36:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: feydeplume

OP:
I have a little something to add to that etiquette point. Since you seem to be coming from a school of thought that says a sub/slave is to do what their Master says, do you also believe that you are an extension of your Master's will and His diplomat to the rest of the world, that your actions reflect on his skills and worthiness to hold the title of Master? I ask because there are those that do come from that school of thought on CM and when they, the sub/slave "says" something in the Ask a Master forum, it is BECAUSE they are being their Master's voice and extension of his will.

I know of no BDSM ideology/community that combines etiquette with a lack of reciprocity between the actions of the slave and the training of the Master. If there is one, please enlighten me as I am always keen to learn about new branches of the this life.

*this was the polite and PROPER way to address another slave in such a forum over a question of precedent and information unlike your little bitchfest attention whore act. And yes, those are my Master's words for your actions in this forum*



well said!  and i may be falling in lust with your Master!  or at least his mind... lol .. gotta love that way of thinking




purepleasure -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 10:02:12 AM)

If any of the previous post read the blog mentioned in her signature line, most of the "submissive's" blog consists of what HER desires, wants, etc. are.  So, if it's all about the submissive, according to the blog writer, how is the Dominant dominant?




OmegaG -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 10:08:57 AM)

Well, according to her blog, men make the money and women stay home and take care of them.  Not that it's wrong (give me a chance to try it out ;) but I would think for someone who feels this is the ultimate structure, his finances are extremely important.




ApathyRomance -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 10:18:37 AM)

OP:  Read more feminist literature.  




feydeplume -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 10:25:04 AM)

He is a hottie and really creative, a writer, programmer, lives his life with flare and passion in all things, loves good food (from fancy to really well made hashbrowns) believes some amazing things and actually lives up to them. He can also cook, clean, sew, fix things around the house without duct tape, and cleans up real nice.

Can you tell that i totally adore him?




feydeplume -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 10:30:56 AM)

yanno, perhaps if she read more non-fiction and less BDSM erotica, she might be getting a better reception on this site and be more at peace with this and other issues of gender, sexuality, and social norms.




agirl -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 11:01:30 AM)

 It's a *people* thing.......No matter how it's expressed people will still be content with the people they're content with.

You seem to be tying all sorts of things together that don't necessarily go together.

Yes, I imagine it's a good idea to get along together but that often means that the things that you *understand is not the submissive's business* were all fine and dandy.

I would point out that a submissive's business* is entirely her own.

agirl








WiseCracknSadist -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 11:07:04 AM)

I have a whole journal entry about this. I have said many times in many rants. To me it makes them posers or frauds. And don't give me crap about personal preference, it's topping.




OmegaG -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 11:15:12 AM)

I'm lost as to what you are referring to. (meaning do you think the OP or DesFIP is a poser?)




Esstee -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 11:20:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Esstee.. welcome to the boards!  And thank you for such a great post!

(i'm not sure the Op will bother with it though, since you don't have dangly bits..LOL)



Thank you, GreedyTop. And thank you to Tazzygirl for the explanation of the icr-cream cone.

GreedyTop, I have a whole assortment of danglybits, and I wear many of them frequently.






oceanwynds -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 11:23:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OmegaG

Well, according to her blog, men make the money and women stay home and take care of them.  Not that it's wrong (give me a chance to try it out ;) but I would think for someone who feels this is the ultimate structure, his finances are extremely important.


True but even that can blow up in your face, and she could be left living in a trailer and be consider trailer trash..chuckles.. Not putting trailers parks down, lived in a very nice and exclusive one years ago. There some mobil homes that are to die for, especially when near the woods:)




OmegaG -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 11:40:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: oceanwynds

quote:

ORIGINAL: OmegaG

Well, according to her blog, men make the money and women stay home and take care of them.  Not that it's wrong (give me a chance to try it out ;) but I would think for someone who feels this is the ultimate structure, his finances are extremely important.


True but even that can blow up in your face, and she could be left living in a trailer and be consider trailer trash..chuckles.. Not putting trailers parks down, lived in a very nice and exclusive one years ago. There some mobil homes that are to die for, especially when near the woods:)


I have to brag on Him for a minute as he spends his money modestly and saves so much better then I ever could.  It would be easy for me to say at this minute that his finances are none of my business but it's because he's responsible that I don't have to think about them.

Its like saying your a no limit slave when you know your Master has the same limits you do.




SassySarijane -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 11:40:30 AM)

Esstee, welcome to the boards! [:)]




GreedyTop -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 11:45:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Esstee

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Esstee.. welcome to the boards!  And thank you for such a great post!

(i'm not sure the Op will bother with it though, since you don't have dangly bits..LOL)



Thank you, GreedyTop. And thank you to Tazzygirl for the explanation of the icr-cream cone.

GreedyTop, I have a whole assortment of danglybits, and I wear many of them frequently.





*grins*  I have some of those myself ;)




tazzygirl -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 12:39:32 PM)

lol... i love that term "no limit slave".  mention having them send money or ums, dismemberment or death, and watch the "no's" begin.




LaTigresse -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 12:41:34 PM)

"Send me yuur wemen, children........and moneyyyyy"




NorthernGent -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 1:21:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: chainedgirl

i have also been reading posts by Doms and Masters saying that many female submissives expect Doms/Masters to be living a certain way, earning a certain level of income and look a certain way. 



I think it's perfectly reasonable to have aspirations and set your stall out accordingly. Placing value on certain attributes doesn't equate to dictating the relationship.

I must say, though, that I'm not a big fan of women who make money an issue beyond financial stability. Were it a matter of work ethic, then I'd understand that, but being a bank for someone's material ambitions is not my cup of tea.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Submissives who call the shots (2/19/2009 1:28:38 PM)

Your understanding, is not every one elses understanding. I feel it certainly is my business about how financially stable they are, and how they are living. Finances and personal living habits affect a relationship, just as much sometimes asD/s compatibility does.

I would never submit to someone let alone live with them, if they didn't have their life in control, and I didn't feel they were doing everything they could possibly do to be a sucessful and productive person. That includes not living like a slob and making good money, Now that doesn't mean be rich, but it does mean more than barely making it by.

quote:

ORIGINAL: chainedgirl

i have been doing a lot of reading lately about the after affects of feminism.  That essentially, what it has done is created women who expect everything to be given to them and done their way and men who cannot stand up to them and often cower.

i have also been reading posts by Doms and Masters saying that many female submissives expect Doms/Masters to be living a certain way, earning a certain level of income and look a certain way.  my understanding is, this is not the submissive's business.  What should matter is how the two get along as a D/s couple or duing play times.  i'm specifically interested to hear how Master's/Doms feel about this issue.





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