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Penis removal - 2/20/2009 12:15:40 PM   
Aylee


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Monroe prisoner amputates own penis

I would say, "that took balls," but apparently he had already gotten rid of those. 

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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 12:18:34 PM   
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my favorite line
"Prison officials didn't consider the man at risk to harm himself."
this after he had cut off half of his genitals
seriously?

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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 12:26:35 PM   
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Why give him safety measures and treatment... that would cost too much time and money, which in the end cost more for the medical treatment... and they wouldn't have a great story to talk and laugh about.  Why do the reasonable thing?

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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 1:48:52 PM   
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Why give him safety measures and treatment... that would cost too much time and money, which in the end cost more for the medical treatment... and they wouldn't have a great story to talk and laugh about.  Why do the reasonable thing?


What are you talking about?  Did you actually READ the article?  He was in "treatment."

The man was convicted July 1, 1977, for aggravated first-degree murder, Kopoian said. He's serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole in the special offenders unit, a part of the prison reserved for treating prisoners with mental health issues.
 
This kind of response pisses me off.  A first-degree murderer (aggravated, nonetheless) is not some poor misuderstood helpless ickle thing that has my sympathy.  He is a very bad person who SHOULD be removed from society ~ preferably by his OWN death, but hey, you can't everything. 

And YES, I am okay with him slicing and dicing himself up rather than someone else. 

Do I think it is funny?  In a way, yes.  I have no idea what was going through his mind when he decided to John Bobbit himself.  Then again, I have no idea what was going through his mind when he made the CHOICE to go out and KILL in cold blood one or more people. 

So he is going to suffer.  GOOD.  He did it to himself. 

Sheesh!  Things are WAY too PC when we cannot even poke fun at a cold blooded killers self-inflicted stupidity. 



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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 3:26:03 PM   
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I was just wondering what they were thinking when they gave him a razor
personally I could stand to see the death penalty in more cases
but then, I am kinda bloodthirsty.

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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 3:38:21 PM   
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I was just wondering what they were thinking when they gave him a razor


That he wanted a shave?

He had not done something like that in several years ~ prolly thought that the treatment was working.

Or MAYBE. . . the guy just REALLY wants out of prison and figures that even a hospital is better?

He would have had to completely take apart the razor to get a decent cutting blade for this.  ANOTHER premeditated action by him. 

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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 3:43:18 PM   
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thats why they should just kill him
not worry about how smooth his face is
seriously I am sick of how much money gets pumped into the prison system, I am sick of hearing from my cousin ((Who is in for life)) about how much better his meals are than mine, or that he has better satellite than I do cable
yeah, they are caged, yeah, there is a lot of violence, but there wouldnt be if capital offenders were killed
my serious thoughts for the day

And to Aylee, you are right, it just shows that he is making decisions, he has reasoning skills, just not good ones.

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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 3:47:42 PM   
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they should put him to work in the prison kitchen, having him slice and dice things up for meals.  apparently he's good at it.  what a dumbass!
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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 3:49:54 PM   
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lmao :P

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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 3:57:39 PM   
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they should put him to work in the prison kitchen, having him slice and dice things up for meals.  apparently he's good at it.  what a dumbass!
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Yep!  Bet that he is great at sauages and meatballs.

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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 5:01:08 PM   
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Hmmmm, now if he had killed someone who was stupid or nuts like that, he would set a precedent. He could actually be eligible for two Darwin awards.

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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 5:06:15 PM   
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You do have a point there, Term.  Bar-b-queing sausages this weekend? 

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RE: Penis removal - 2/20/2009 5:39:27 PM   
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quote:

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Why give him safety measures and treatment... that would cost too much time and money, which in the end cost more for the medical treatment... and they wouldn't have a great story to talk and laugh about.  Why do the reasonable thing?


What are you talking about?  Did you actually READ the article?  He was in "treatment."

The man was convicted July 1, 1977, for aggravated first-degree murder, Kopoian said. He's serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole in the special offenders unit, a part of the prison reserved for treating prisoners with mental health issues.
 
This kind of response pisses me off.  A first-degree murderer (aggravated, nonetheless) is not some poor misuderstood helpless ickle thing that has my sympathy.  He is a very bad person who SHOULD be removed from society ~ preferably by his OWN death, but hey, you can't everything. 

And YES, I am okay with him slicing and dicing himself up rather than someone else. 

Do I think it is funny?  In a way, yes.  I have no idea what was going through his mind when he decided to John Bobbit himself.  Then again, I have no idea what was going through his mind when he made the CHOICE to go out and KILL in cold blood one or more people. 

So he is going to suffer.  GOOD.  He did it to himself. 

Sheesh!  Things are WAY too PC when we cannot even poke fun at a cold blooded killers self-inflicted stupidity. 




The man clearly has a mental illness.  They said that he wasn't a threat to himself and he was, clearly so.  I did not elaborate here.  My take would be lock him safely away without razors!  Pretty simple.  I cannot imagine that any treatment he has gotten in this system would be any better than some for the poor would be outside of jail and have known of both situations.  Therefore I don't consider any theropy he might have gotten of much worth... and seemingly... he wasn't well after said treatment.

I am not anyone who feels sorry for the criminal's... but it isn't a stretch to believe that they might need to be protected from themselves.  That would be reasonable to me.  I happen to believe that death sentences should be carried out more and yet this man is mentally ill and few states will take them out for their crimes.  I have fought for the death penalty having had a personal encounter with someone who was put to death for his crimes.

You and I are not exactly seeing this differently... but I can't understand why a man who is clearly a danger to others isn't placed in a safe place with no way to harm others.  I've known a few guards in my time too... many actually laugh about the inmates and are careless.  I don't think everyone in jail deserve's being harmed from some guy who is mentally ill and who has a way to get something that can be used as a weapon.

I also think if they are not going to use the death penalty... then they need to assure the tax payers that they will do their job without short cuts that will eventually cost the tax payer more.

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