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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

I just said I didn't agree with the gay agenda.  Just as you can probably say you don't agree with MY agenda.  I'm not going to attack you personally for it.  Should I call you a mysogynist because you don't agree with me?

You know, I've heard the term "gay agenda" bandied about for quite some time...but I've never heard just what the agenda is.

Is it something like:
9:00am have breakfast
10:00am get facial
11:00 have sex with anonymous guy with huge genitalia
12:30 destroy the fabric of heterosexual life and destroy the morals of the country
2:00 have more anonymous sex with random stranger
2:30 lunch with Derik

Is that what you mean? Would you be so kind as to tell me what this ominous gay agenda consists of and what you feel so unreasonable about it?

I await illumination.

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ORIGINAL: BbwCanaDomme

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

do you think heterosexual social issues are brought up during SEX ed?  like how to accept a breakup without stalking your partner?  or how to say no to someone who is pressuring you for sex?  or domestic violence?  or talking to your parents about birth control?  or how to tell your parents you're pregnant?
if they did, there wouldn't be so many babies born in bathrooms and disposed of as garbage.

...I don't know what kind of backwoods school your kids are going to, but we started learning that shit in grade 7. And I went to a pretty conservative Catholic school. There would be fewer babies born in bathrooms if girls were aware of their options and abstinence only education was abolished. The few girls I know who had babies pre-18 did so because they had no idea where they could go to get an abortion and they figured it out too late to get the morning after pill.

And what is it exactly that you're worried about in terms of kids being taught about homosexuality in sex ed class? Do you really think that if your kids don't hear about it at school, they won't know gay people exist? Because it doesn't work like that. Instead they'll just be horrified and confused if they turn out to be gay.

But in all seriousness, if your kids are in high school and don't know who Susan B Anthony is, you should probably look into sending them to another school. I didn't even go to an American school and we had to learn about her (even though we focused more on Nellie McClung).

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

You're calling me a RACIST because I stated that Clinton used sexual harrassment during his term as a governor?  If he didn't, why did he pay Paula Jones almost a million dollars?

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Something that is blatently obvious about your statement that I don't believe anyone has noticed.  That Ds isn't about being gay.  Neither does it have to do with porn.  It doesn't even have to have anything to do with BDSM.  In fact, BDSM doesn't have to have anything to do with porn or gay sex either.  Your question pretty much sounds as silly as asking why christians participate in DD or Ds.
 
Don't confuse and mix up the whole lot and you can pretty much get why conservative supporters are and can be happily involved in Ds relationships.  It could be you simply need to reformat your question?
 
the.dark.

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  I'll tell you how, it's because the title of conservative has been hijacked by a group that are anything but conservative. ......        .....I personally think more people are actually classic conservative than realize it.

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69
Gay agenda would probably be lead by hmmmmm either gay marriage or pushing having kindergartners taught about alternative lifestyles under the guise of anti discrimination.

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

The same girls that could get info for FAKE IDS to get into clubs cant use GOOGLE to learn about there options ;)
If they are really that stupid how would they manage to open the door to the abortion clinic?  Wouldnt they be stuck pushing the door that says pull to open...thats if they got that far ;)

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

http://www.youdebate.com/DEBATES/Juanita_Broaddrick.HTM

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Does anyone think that a group vocally against reproductive rights, gay rights, free speech rights in the matter of pornography are going to at all support the rights of "whip swinging perverts" like us?

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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Does anyone think that a group vocally against reproductive rights, gay rights, free speech rights in the matter of pornography are going to at all support the rights of "whip swinging perverts" like us?

I agree and don't think you're going to find mainstream Democrat or Republican politicians that will support "whip swinging perverts."  If you really believe you'll see Ted Kennedy, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, or our new President proudly exclaiming their support of sadomasochism, than I want some of what your smoking.  Find me the most liberal politician in America, and have him get caught on camera coming out of a S&M club or party dressed head to toe in leather or latex, and watch how quickly all the liberal politicians condemn their behavior and cross the street when they see said politician coming. 

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ORIGINAL: MarsBonfire

So Darcy&the Dark, you honestly believe that the GOP jihad against gays, sex education, women's access to healtcare providers when pregnant.... all of that is somehow utterly seperate? You honestly believe that somehow this is going to stop at your doorstep and go no farther? That you, as a practicing pervert (and I use it as a term of affection) are completely immune to their misguided laws and policies? They you, like the famous german dissident said, "don't care when they come for the jews, because I'm not a jew... I don't care when they come for the homosexuals, because I'm not a homosexual..." (I'm sure you know the rest of the quote.) If YOU really believe that...

Then I guess they are more than just hypocrites... they're fucking deluded too!

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I agree and

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Something that is blatently obvious about your statement that I don't believe anyone has noticed. That Ds isn't about being gay. Neither does it have to do with porn. It doesn't even have to have anything to do with BDSM. In fact, BDSM doesn't have to have anything to do with porn or gay sex either. Your question pretty much sounds as silly as asking why christians participate in DD or Ds.

Don't confuse and mix up the whole lot and you can pretty much get why conservative supporters are and can be happily involved in Ds relationships. It could be you simply need to reformat your question?

I have no desire to change my question. The fact is that the conservative financial agenda is tied in with the conservative social agenda and we are not part of it. I will instead, since you want to so distance yourself from other alternative sexualities, quote the words of Martin Niemoller, a German pastor and theologian about the results of such thinking.

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist; And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist; And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew; And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."or, to use the words of Ben Franklin, "I we do not hang together we most assuredly hang separately" 

And if you are so worried about being persecuted, then don't participate in something you might be persecuted for.
 
But then, you pretty much wouldn't be living much of a life, would you?
 
Basically, you can't make everything equal.  Because NOTHING is.  Everything is equally unequal and visa versa.
You are basically suggesting that just because I am in a Ds relationship I automatically should be tolerant and supportive of an alternative.  I am not an american, but for the sake of this discussion, I will use the whole 'liberal' analagy.  If you are so liberal... how come you cannot accept that conservatives can be in Ds relationships?  It might not be your idea of a Ds relationship.  It may not include daily doses of porn, or gay sex, or discipline.  So what?  You are questioning the very validity of a persons personal choice of relationship.  How very 'conservative' of you.
 
the.dark.

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o a George W bush or a DIck Cheney supporter would be a racist in your mind equal to the KKK?

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I don't personally know anyone who is waging a war against gays.
But I do personally know a lot of conservatives who are tired of having the liberal PC susie-has-two-mommys gay agenda being shoved down their and their childrens' throats.  Myself included.
I don't care what you do behind your closed doors, trust me I am terribly serious about that.

I wonder if the general public, liberals included, would be just as gung-ho for kids books called My mommy has a slave, or having beat the sub family night?

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

Why does tolerance and diversity only go so far as the minority pushing their view?
Why don't we have white history month?
Why are we allowed Heather has two mommys, but no prayer in school?
My daughters know the life story of Rosa Parks, but probably know nothing at all about Susan B. Anthony. *yes, I just asked and had it confirmed*
Why is a minorrah an acceptable display in government buildings, but a nativity scene or even a christmas tree is not?

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

The moment the liberals lose an argument they call you a racist.