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SpinnerofTales -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 5:05:37 PM)
quote: This thread is a good example. The liberals have nothing to say bout Obama's "plans" to slash the deficit in half in what, five years! Ok....fair question.....let me tell you what I have to say about it: When Obama first announced his run for president, I figured he had about as much chance as Shirley Chisolm. He was young, he was relatively unknown except for a great speech at the 04 convention, he was black, he was liberal...in short, with the Hilary Clinton juggarnaut against him, I figured him to be out of the race damned quick. At best, I figured he was setting himself up for name recognition in 12 or 16. Then I saw a man who ran a nearly flawless political campaign. He not only managed to get past the smears and dirty tricks thrown up in any political campaign (an no, this is not a democrat or republican thing, presidential campaigns get down and dirty on both sides)....he managed to pick people who had good, workable ideas and he listened to them when it was appropriate to listen to them. When he made a mistake (for example, that line about PA folk holding on to god and guns as a sop for their miserable lives) he managed to get away from it without being overwhelmed. This man went from unknown to president and, despite what the republicans like to claim, he didn't do it by being the world's greatest liar or most charming sob ever to run for office. Since he's been in office, he's managed to begin changing the way we deal with our foriegn detainees (as he promised to do)....begin to change our military strategy to shore up our Afghanastan campaign while winding down our Iriqui campaingn (again, agree or not with the policy, as he promised to do)...pass an incredibly large and complex piece of financial legislation (still, whether you agree with it or not, still an impressive accomplishment in and of itself).....and STILL have over 60% of the people in this country thinking he's doing a good job. Sooooo...when he says that in five years he can cut the deficit in half, and points out that winding down Iraq puts us 90 billion dollars per year closer to that goal, hell yes, I'm not going to say "nope...aint gonna happen." He's been managing to get done a whole lot of what he said he'd get done so far.

kiyari -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 5:31:54 PM)
Edited to Add: was a Fast Reply, and so to none in Particular. Sam Vaknin has recently come out with, in his opinion, that 'O' is a psycho narcissist. Sam is considered to be amongst the preeminent authorities on such deep narcissism. If 'O' is such, then there is no 'depth', it is all charm, smoke and mirrors. No links... Google is [not really] your 'friend'. To Spinner: Rumor has it, that George Soros was backing 'O'. Them's some Big Guns, if so.

SpinnerofTales -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 5:37:50 PM)
quote: Sam Vaknin has recently come out with, in his opinion, that 'O' is a psycho narcissist. Sam is considered to be amongst the preeminent authorities on such deep narcissism. If 'O' is such, then there is no 'depth', it is all charm, smoke and mirrors. No links... Google is [not really] your 'friend'. Darn right Google is not really your friend. Especially when you google up Sam and it says in huge letters, on his own website, "I am not a mental health professional." Tell me, if you have a brain tumor, do you go to your automobile mechanic to have it diagnosed?

rulemylife -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 5:48:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiyari Edited to Add: was a Fast Reply, and so to none in Particular. Sam Vaknin has recently come out with, in his opinion, that 'O' is a psycho narcissist. Sam is considered to be amongst the preeminent authorities on such deep narcissism. If 'O' is such, then there is no 'depth', it is all charm, smoke and mirrors. No links... Google is [not really] your 'friend'. To Spinner: Rumor has it, that George Soros was backing 'O'. Them's some Big Guns, if so. Sam Vanknin?????????????? [sm=rofl.gif] A preeminent authority? [sm=rofl.gif] He's a psychotic asshole who is one step away from being committed to a psychiatric hospital.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 6:08:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Propaganda? Wishful thinking? Or does he really believe this is possible. quote: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama has committed hundreds of billions of dollars to help revive the economy and is working on a plan to cut the federal deficit in half by the end of his first term. Obama will touch on his efforts to restore fiscal discipline at a White House fiscal policy summit on Monday and in an address to Congress on Tuesday. On Thursday he plans to send at least a summary of his first budget request to Capitol Hill. The bottom line, said an administration official Saturday, is to halve the federal deficit to $533 billion by the time his first term ends in 2013. He inherited a deficit of about $1.3 trillion from former President George W. Bush. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the president has not yet released his budget for the fiscal year 2010, which begins Oct. 1, said the deficit will be shrunk by scaling back Iraq war spending, ending the temporary tax breaks enacted by the Bush administration for those making $250,000 or more a year, and streamlining government. (Full article here). It can be done. As a lifelong Republican, I have many friends who call me (daily, it seems) to complain about the Dems....explaining to me how the Republicans are the ones for fiscal restraint, the Dems the spenders....and I find myself (constantly) explaining to them how Clinton was the ONLY Prez since Nixon who had a surplus (check your history books....it was one year) and every Republican Prez between Kennedy (including Kennedy) and today has run a deficit (except for that one year). It can be done. If he does it (lowers the deficit, and then in term 2 creates a surplus)...I'll (happily) change my party affiliation. Go Obama!!!!!

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 6:14:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales quote: Sam Vaknin has recently come out with, in his opinion, that 'O' is a psycho narcissist. Sam is considered to be amongst the preeminent authorities on such deep narcissism. If 'O' is such, then there is no 'depth', it is all charm, smoke and mirrors. No links... Google is [not really] your 'friend'. Darn right Google is not really your friend. Especially when you google up Sam and it says in huge letters, on his own website, "I am not a mental health professional." Tell me, if you have a brain tumor, do you go to your automobile mechanic to have it diagnosed? Ah hahaha not only that, he claims on his CV to have a Ph.D in Philosophy from Pacific Western University, which is one of the biggest mail-order diploma mills on the planet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pacific_Western_University/Proposed John Gray (Men are from Mars) has a "degree" from another diploma mill, Columbia Western University (closed by California).

rulemylife -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 6:19:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie It can be done. As a lifelong Republican, I have many friends who call me (daily, it seems) to complain about the Dems....explaining to me how the Republicans are the ones for fiscal restraint, the Dems the spenders....and I find myself (constantly) explaining to them how Clinton was the ONLY Prez since Nixon who had a surplus (check your history books....it was one year) and every Republican Prez between Kennedy (including Kennedy) and today has run a deficit (except for that one year). It can be done. If he does it (lowers the deficit, and then in term 2 creates a surplus)...I'll (happily) change my party affiliation. Go Obama!!!!! Well, it was at least two years, but I won't argue since it's nice to hear someone from the other side of the aisle acknowledge that without trying to say it was all "smoke and mirrors".

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 6:40:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie It can be done. As a lifelong Republican, I have many friends who call me (daily, it seems) to complain about the Dems....explaining to me how the Republicans are the ones for fiscal restraint, the Dems the spenders....and I find myself (constantly) explaining to them how Clinton was the ONLY Prez since Nixon who had a surplus (check your history books....it was one year) and every Republican Prez between Kennedy (including Kennedy) and today has run a deficit (except for that one year). It can be done. If he does it (lowers the deficit, and then in term 2 creates a surplus)...I'll (happily) change my party affiliation. Go Obama!!!!! Well, it was at least two years, but I won't argue since it's nice to hear someone from the other side of the aisle acknowledge that without trying to say it was all "smoke and mirrors". Clinton had 3 years of surplus....Nixon had one (but who's counting ? :) )

kiyari -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 6:42:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Sam Vanknin?????????????? [sm=rofl.gif] A preeminent authority? [sm=rofl.gif] He's a psychotic asshole who is one step away from being committed to a psychiatric hospital. It's 'Vaknin', and yes, the very same. He is one of the ilk he expounds upon, he is a self-professed deep Narcissist. I long ago had heard, that among the extremes of the psychologically disturbed, were neurotics and psychotics. Neurotics could be helped, as they ALREADY believed that EVERYTHING was 'their fault'. Psychotics, on the other hand, could NOT be reached, as they were CERTAIN that NOTHING was their fault, that none of the ills visited upon them had least aught to do with anything they themselves did or did not do. Narcisstic sorts fall into this latter category. Mr. Vaknin was one of these otherwise 'unreachable' sorts, who fell so hard, that he had an epipany about his self. Fairly unique. For this is he considered to be such a marvellous resource. Doubtless he is as insufferable as ever, on a personal basis. Nevertheless, he is one serious resource as to insights regarding Narcisstic Personality Disorder. Like it or lump it, not my dog in that fight.

StrangerThan -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 6:51:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Fuckit. I have to go to work. Millions on welfare are depending on me. Damn. I needed a signature line. Too bad I didn't think of it myself. Defense spending. Money's got to come from somewhere and the plan I understand is to start there.

subrob1967 -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 9:07:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveboy291 Why is the right so dellusional and thinking that Bush was a good President? Why does the right get so pissed off when they get attacked, but yet have no problem attacking other people? Why have the right abandoned debate in favor for attacking anybody who disagrees with them and asking circular question? Why do they hurl insults at people and then turn around and tell others not to throw insults at them and say the other side doesen't want to engage in debate but attacks when they do the same thing? Who have I insulted, and where have I said Bush was a good president? Oh, yeah, answer the question, why are you giving Congress a pass? They approved EVERY stinking penny W spent in the last 8 years.

TheHeretic -> RE: Official: Obama plans to slash deficit in half (2/24/2009 9:38:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: StrangerThan quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Fuckit. I have to go to work. Millions on welfare are depending on me. Damn. I needed a signature line. Too bad I didn't think of it myself. Defense spending. Money's got to come from somewhere and the plan I understand is to start there. I wasn't cribbing from my neighbors bumper sticker, Strange. I'd just seen an article that 20% of Los Angeles county residents, 2.2 million people, were recieving some sort of county aid. Now since the defense industry is a big employer (read; taxpayers) in my neck of the woods, putting them out of work is going to make a bad situation worse. Here is the welfare story http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-welfare22-2009feb22,0,4377048.story

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