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http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/31/biden.obama/

In the article published Wednesday, Biden is quoted evaluating presidential rivals Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, former Sen. John Edwards, D-North Carolina, and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois. His remarks about Obama, the only African-American serving in the Senate, drew the most scrutiny."I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man." (Watch Biden's comments and Obama's reaction )

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

Yes EEEEW that is your VP Joe Biden being quoted ;)

does this make Joe Biden a racist??? or does it make rush a racist for quoting Joe Biden ;)

What exactly was the quote and the source?

The whole thing, as well as your point, has me pretty confused.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave
First, let me say that I thoroughly enjoy Rush. I "get" his sense of humor, usually, and invariably appreciate his optimism and patriotism. I agree with him on many issues, disagree with him on some.

That's good.   Entertainers that you like should be enjoyed.

I thoroughly enjoy Howard Stern. 

The only difference here is I realize Stern is a comedian who will do and say anything to attract an audience and boost ratings.

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On attacking Rush for his addiction to painkillers- By the same logic I'm sure there's not a cretin in the country who would have attacked Sarah Palin for having a Down's Syndrome child had she not previously spoken out against others in similar circumstances; and people ridicule RL's weight only because he makes fat jokes.

There's no logic in what you just said.  You're trying to stretch the argument to include things not directly pertinent while completely evading the issue of Limbaugh's blatant hypocrisy.

Also, to clarify, this was not just a simple case of addiction, (although by Rush's proclaimed standard all addicts should be jailed)  it was a case of illegally obtaining prescription drugs, something he would have crucified anyone else over.

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You may not have seen Rush in cuffs and orange, but it certainly wan't for a lack of persecutorial zeal.

I'm assuming you mean the zealousness of the Palm Beach County prosecutor's office.

Doctor-shopping is the practice of secretly obtaining prescriptions from multiple doctors in order to obtain excessive amounts of drugs. It is a third-degree felony under Florida Statutes 893.13(7)(a)(8) and 893.13(7)(c). The practice is punishable by up to five years in prison and up to a $5,000 fine.
(Media Matters - O'Reilly attempted to minimize alleged Limbaugh ...)

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To whom do you believe we should "give credibility"? Who do you think we should "take seriously"? It certainly seems to me that his detractors take him more seriously than most of us fans.

No, it seems the Republican Party takes him pretty seriously when any of the party's elite that dares criticize him is forced to tuck their tail between their legs and humbly apologize days later.

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave
First, let me say that I thoroughly enjoy Rush. I "get" his sense of humor, usually, and invariably appreciate his optimism and patriotism. I agree with him on many issues, disagree with him on some.

That's good.   Entertainers that you like should be enjoyed.

I thoroughly enjoy Howard Stern. 

The only difference here is I realize Stern is a comedian who will do and say anything to attract an audience and boost ratings.

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On attacking Rush for his addiction to painkillers- By the same logic I'm sure there's not a cretin in the country who would have attacked Sarah Palin for having a Down's Syndrome child had she not previously spoken out against others in similar circumstances; and people ridicule RL's weight only because he makes fat jokes.

There's no logic in what you just said.  You're trying to stretch the argument to include things not directly pertinent while completely evading the issue of Limbaugh's blatant hypocrisy.

Also, to clarify, this was not just a simple case of addiction, (although by Rush's proclaimed standard all addicts should be jailed)  it was a case of illegally obtaining prescription drugs, something he would have crucified anyone else over.

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You may not have seen Rush in cuffs and orange, but it certainly wan't for a lack of persecutorial zeal.

I'm assuming you mean the zealousness of the Palm Beach County prosecutor's office.

Doctor-shopping is the practice of secretly obtaining prescriptions from multiple doctors in order to obtain excessive amounts of drugs. It is a third-degree felony under Florida Statutes 893.13(7)(a)(8) and 893.13(7)(c). The practice is punishable by up to five years in prison and up to a $5,000 fine.
(Media Matters - O'Reilly attempted to minimize alleged Limbaugh ...)

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To whom do you believe we should "give credibility"? Who do you think we should "take seriously"? It certainly seems to me that his detractors take him more seriously than most of us fans.

No, it seems the Republican Party takes him pretty seriously when any of the party's elite that dares criticize him is forced to tuck their tail between their legs and humbly apologize days later.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
I don't see the song as inheritantly racist.  It's just a silly, little diddy that you would hear non-political radio hosts playing. 

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

It's the racism and hatred that make me dislike the man (remember 'Barack the magic negro' ? Talk about adding more to the shit heap of racism in this country). Thankfully, the portion of the conservative electorate that is entertained by hatred and xenophobia is dying. One day, eventually, Limbaugh will be quiet for eternity. As for his legacy, he will have none: he will be seen as an unfortunate cultural incident.

~ HopefulPinko

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

i think there is a difference between someone initially being given an addictive drug by a doctor and someone who starts the addiction themselves.   Both have to make the same journey to overcome the addiction.  However how both addictions began are totally different.    One was by choice the other wasn’t.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Yes, I'm aware of what Biden said but I'm confused about how you correlated it with what you posted.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Limbaugh, Coulter, Savage, even Fox news:  a dying breed, I tell you. It's the end of their world. And I feel fine :-) .

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark
Unfortunately kiitin....I think you are wrong, there is just too much hate to spread!....

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Riiiiiiiiiight, it's completely benign, and even benevolent  .

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Forgot something in my first reply to you.
I don't listen to Stern much; I've listened more to Imus. Both men strike me as being sincere; certainly I have no factual reason to attack their sincerity. Further, it is widely believed that their medium- radio- makes it almost impossible to be convincingly insincere; there is the occasional off-key caller that seems to verify the truth of that belief.
Rush sounds like a "true believer" to me, that he freely spouts his own opinions truthfully.  I infer from your post that you don't agree. Why?

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

i think there is a difference between someone initially being given an addictive drug by a doctor and someone who starts the addiction themselves.   Both have to make the same journey to overcome the addiction.  However how both addictions began are totally different.    One was by choice the other wasn’t.

I kinda sorta more or less sometimes partly agree.
BUT- there is increasing scientific belief that there is a HUGE genetic component to alcoholism, to drug addiction generally, and to specific drug addictions.
I know a lady who has spent... 30?.... years as an addiction counselor. In recovery herself, she has by her own estimate heard the story (the "drinking history", for starters) of thousands of drunks. She says she can count on her fingers the number of people who've told her that they drank to a blackout the first time they drank. I'm one of them; my daughter is another.
I don't think that's a coincedence.

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Unfortunately kiitin....I think you are wrong, there is just too much hate to spread!....

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ORIGINAL: votiveguitar

The problem with Rush L. is that when he gets caught being rasist, insensetive, bigoted or anti-American he hides behind the guise of "I'm just and entertainer" But in the next breath he claimes to be the only voice of truth. He wouldn't know the truth if he saw it in lights.  All of his sponsers, are directly connected to the Republican Party.  The reality is that he is the premier spokesman for the Republican party. He is a died in the wool Secular Huminist that has been leading his lemming followers down a path from "loving our neighbors," to hating them. Shame on Him and anyone who follows him.

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Forgot something in my first reply to you.
I don't listen to Stern much; I've listened more to Imus. Both men strike me as being sincere; certainly I have no factual reason to attack their sincerity. Further, it is widely believed that their medium- radio- makes it almost impossible to be convincingly insincere; there is the occasional off-key caller that seems to verify the truth of that belief.
Rush sounds like a "true believer" to me, that he freely spouts his own opinions truthfully.  I infer from your post that you don't agree. Why?

Yes, they are both extremely sincere, in their desire to make money.

Howard makes no bones about it while Rush wants you to believe that the money is secondary and he just wants to help his fellow Americans to put the country on the right course.

Of course, I'm sure Rush is a little more motivated to help the country when he's able to make $38 million a year by pandering to the most extreme partisan politics.