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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 9:18:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's ironic in a way that this post was made as Sir and I have started to talk, in  a general sense, the topic of whether I'll move to the States or him moving here to Canada. Yes it is a major life changing experience to move away from the country you were born in and probably lived for much of one's life and it warrants careful consideration.

At this point, I would consider moving though I have to look at the practical side and see if it makes more sense who will move where. Can I move far away from family and friends.....yes I could which would be a difficult decision yet I will be willing to take that chance/risk to be with the one who had claimed me heart body and soul.
After looking at all the factors of ease of employment, immigration, etc., then the choice will be easier to determine who will move where. What I won't do is jump into this until my relationship was solid enough for the both of us. I feel to do otherwise is an exercise in not thinking clearly of the consequences. Yet each person has to determine what risks they are and aren't willing to take.

I'd say the most outlandish risk I took was a few years ago when I upped and moved to a Master whom I hardly knew to be his slave. I didn't seriously consider the repercussions of my actions because I was too blinded by the rose colored glasses and made too many assumptions.

Being a bit older and hopefully a bit wiser now. I find that those glasses aren't rose colored anymore and am a bit more cautious. Now when Sir and I talk about this subject, I am more willing to express my concerns, fears, and options we have available. At this point, we are researching all we can, discussing the options so when the time comes when we have to make the decision of immigrating, we will be able to do so with full knowledge of the this.

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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 9:18:40 AM   
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At the end of Breakfast At Tiffany's, after Holly threw Cat out into the alley, and was sitting in the back of the cab planning to run away to South America, Paul has had enough and yells at her as he's getting out of the cab, something along the lines of, "You can keep running away, but no matter where you end up, you're still going to find yourself there!" 

Of course, in romanticized Hollywood-style, that was her epiphany.

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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 9:21:54 AM   
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Would I still alter plans, go somewhere else, etc. for love.  Most assuredly.  What I wouldn't do is sacrifice so much of myself.  That is not to say that I would not invest because if one does not invest, they damn a relationship and they sell everyone involved short.  Itakea moremoderate, self-presevring approach than did I in the past. 
I am sad that I don't have the unbounded willingness that I once did.  On the same token, that was not a stance of wisdom. I try to blend and honor both. 
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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 9:35:44 AM   
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Selfish as it may sound, I am not willing to risk any more than the time I invest. I am a realist and at times far too grounded, My days of "throw it all to the wind" risk taking are over--I have family, assets, etc. I'm not willing to risk those, nor am I willing to make another do so.
 
The most outlandish invitation(s)? (1) To have a slave live in My basement 24/7, 365 never to be allowed to see the light of day (2) To have a slave that I can take through complete penis and testicle removal--to create My very own eunuch.
 
Prepared to give up? My time, My energy and perhaps someday the other side of the bed.

Yes I know... but wasn't it nice those days of risk taking. Risk taking got me 'on' in life. I mean really going to live in London as an art student was a risk but I did it.
I think I am getting older by the minute and am getting to a risk taking phase again as life is so so short and the constant experience of death amongst those of my geberation seems to etch itself on my consciousness.
I'm a gypsy Cat really...


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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 9:37:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

For now I'm not at a place to risk moving or giving up my current life. I have others who are dependent on me.

In another year or so I'm more than willing to risk picking up and moving and to do almost anything I want to do be it for myself or for someone else.

I have job skills that I can transfer to almost anywhere, do almost anything so finding another job, despite the economy, isn't at difficult at it may be for some.


Yes I have job skills that can carry me almost anywhere. It's great to be able to say that these days.


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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 9:39:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened

When I was 22 a guy I briefly dated called me out of the blue and asked if I'd move from minnesota to california.  I quit my excellent job, sold everything I owned and flew out there with a few suitcases and the money I'd made selling stuff.  The relationship didn't work out but I stayed in california until I met some other guy who, as it turned out, needed to take a job in central wyoming.  I quit my very excellent job, sold a bunch of stuff and moved to wyoming.  His job didn't work out and after 3 years we went back to california.  When that marriage ended in divorce six years later, I got an invitation to go to northern nevada, so I packed up the kids, the cat and quit my pretty good job and moved to nevada where I stayed until the company I worked for got sold and I was transfered to south carolina.  13 years later so biker dude wanted me to leave my very excellent job and move to florida.  Here I am.  I don't regret any of it.  I've always had enough confidence in myself that my physical location is really moot and the change in scenery has given me some really fabulous adventures.  Life without adventure to me is kind of like drinking instant decaf coffee.... what's the point?

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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 9:43:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMorrigan

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
I've always had enough confidence in myself that my physical location is really moot and the change in scenery has given me some really fabulous adventures.  Life without adventure to me is kind of like drinking instant decaf coffee.... what's the point?

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Hell yes, so true, Eyesopened. Once Reality and I have saved  a bit and my cats are no longer with us (they're rather elderly and coming up for their 17th year), we will head off on an adventure of our own which is something I have always wanted to do. I will always have places to come back to, ie properties, but home, to me, is in my freedom to be wherever I want to without restriction. We humans spend too much time doing what we think we should, instead of doing what we'd like.  

Yes MissM I am also enjoying reading the risk-takers' answers. A vanilla relationship would simply not hold my attention.... but when this batch of teens have moved on....another 4 years... then the world will be my oyster again. Comfort is anathema to me.



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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 10:35:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Canada is too cold and besides in the winter our population here in Chapala is half Canadian anyway... so why suffer bad weather and oppresive taxes when you could be here? .... just sayin.

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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 11:02:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: submittous

Canada is too cold and besides in the winter our population here in Chapala is half Canadian anyway... so why suffer bad weather and oppresive taxes when you could be here? .... just sayin.

It was a metaphore... like going postal. But it's making me laugh reading these literal answers. Look as I Brit I have enough problems distinguishing between a Canadian and an American.. awfully ignorant of me it sounds too.... apart from the Scottich 'o' vowel in the word 'out' there has to be other differences surely?
PS Just being witty btw


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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 2:58:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: submittous

Canada is too cold and besides in the winter our population here in Chapala is half Canadian anyway... so why suffer bad weather and oppresive taxes when you could be here? .... just sayin.


Oppressive taxes???

That would totally depend on what area you live in I would think. From what I understand parts of US are just as taxed as parts of Canada.

Y'all forget, our health care is free or almost free for most of us as well.

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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 3:07:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just don't get the whole 'oppressive taxes' thing personally.  After visiting canada numerous times, and not seeing much difference, if any, I think that's a non issue.  Not to mention, my pet is from canada, and he's constantly amazed at how high our taxes here are compared to what they were for him at home, and how little we get in return for them.  Just sayin'.

Personally, I adore canada and would love to move there.  Unfortunately, the hard part is, none of us can agree on where.  I want to go to Ottawa or Toronto, Partner 1 wants to move to the other coast, Vancouver or Victoria, pet likes Calgary, and Partner 2 has no idea. LOL.  We do, however, know that Sask, Manitoba, Yukon, and N.W. Territories are out. ;)


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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 3:09:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: submittous

Canada is too cold and besides in the winter our population here in Chapala is half Canadian anyway... so why suffer bad weather and oppresive taxes when you could be here? .... just sayin.


Eh...depending on which part of the country you are in during winter. Southern coast of British Colombia 's usually mild and rarely does the temperature dip below 40 F. It's common to walk outside in Jan just wearing a sweater and light jacket.


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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 3:11:39 PM   
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I just don't get the whole 'oppressive taxes' thing personally.  After visiting canada numerous times, and not seeing much difference, if any, I think that's a non issue.  Not to mention, my pet is from canada, and he's constantly amazed at how high our taxes here are compared to what they were for him at home, and how little we get in return for them.  Just sayin'.

Personally, I adore canada and would love to move there.  Unfortunately, the hard part is, none of us can agree on where.  I want to go to Ottawa or Toronto, Partner 1 wants to move to the other coast, Vancouver or Victoria, pet likes Calgary, and Partner 2 has no idea. LOL.  We do, however, know that Sask, Manitoba, Yukon, and N.W. Territories are out. ;)



Ottawa is a beautiful city. A word of warning, Victoria and Vancouver are very expensive to live in, especially Victoria. Toronto's not bad though the gangs and crime rates have increased quite bad over the past several years though there's lots to do.


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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 3:18:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BKSir

I just don't get the whole 'oppressive taxes' thing personally.  After visiting canada numerous times, and not seeing much difference, if any, I think that's a non issue.  Not to mention, my pet is from canada, and he's constantly amazed at how high our taxes here are compared to what they were for him at home, and how little we get in return for them.  Just sayin'.

Personally, I adore canada and would love to move there.  Unfortunately, the hard part is, none of us can agree on where.  I want to go to Ottawa or Toronto, Partner 1 wants to move to the other coast, Vancouver or Victoria, pet likes Calgary, and Partner 2 has no idea. LOL.  We do, however, know that Sask, Manitoba, Yukon, and N.W. Territories are out. ;)



Ottawa is a beautiful city. A word of warning, Victoria and Vancouver are very expensive to live in, especially Victoria. Toronto's not bad though the gangs and crime rates have increased quite bad over the past several years though there's lots to do.



Oh, I know.  I fell in love with Ottawa many years back.  Toronto also.  Vanc. is awesome, and we're leaning that way despite the price.  Mainly because of the Chinatown there for me.  God knows how many hours I spent getting lost there, and wanting to stay that way.  A shame about Toronto, that place used to be one of the greatest cities on earth.  Probably still is actually.  No offense meant, but, from everything I've seen and studied, "High crime rate" in canada is pretty low still, when discussed in context with "high crime rate" in the US (Baltimore, DC, Atlanta, L.A., Detroit, etc). ;)

Oh, that, and y'all have back bacon, and maple ice.  God I'd kill for some real maple ice right about now.  And poutine at your kfc's!


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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 3:25:35 PM   
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I still visit friends in Toronto and though I hadn't lived there for 30 yrs, I still feel quite safe, like any other city in Canada and the States, there's certain areas you just avoid!


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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 3:27:29 PM   
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going Canadian like going postal equals metaphore for doing something out of the ordinary.
What is it wif yu guz and Canada?????


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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 3:41:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Funny this topic should come up at the moment. I have been speaking with / negotiating with, whatever you want to call it with lol someone and the topic of relocation has come up. Personally i like to get these kind of issues discussed pretty much right away so you are both on the same page regarding them from day one.
The long and short is i would be expected to relocate if things go well at some point in the future. I have no objections to this my career is pretty much flexible as to where i live, after all there are public houses all over the country.
The place i would be expected to move to however is a city i am terrified of. I don't like big places where there are a lot of people, where the chances are high i will get lost etc. Suddenly though it doesn't seem such a scarey place and i have agreed to a move if thats the direction this goes in.
I guess what i'm saying is that for the right person i would be prepared to risk a lot, give up a lot and yeah if that person was in Canada relocate there.
 

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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 4:52:11 PM   
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Would I like Canada?
I mean wtf?
Yes... sure.... probably. But would I like to leave Britain, turn my back on everuthing I am, leave my family, my job.... for what?
For someone 25 years my junior? For someone I don't really know? On a one way no-return slave ticket?
I mean get an opening gambit...
so my question(s) are:
What would you be prepared to risk if invited to?
What is the most outlandish invitation you have had on here or other sites?
What would you be prepared to give up?
Have you ever 'gone Canadian'?
PS metaphore btw....



I'm in a similar situation. moving to Edmonton this summer to live with my fiancee (I'm 14 years her junior). I'm giving up everything (though finding a job out of college will be easier there than it is in Tuscaloosa). I'm going to hate Canada, even though Alberta is the most sane province from what I hear. Fortunately is should be for just a few years. Then I'll try to come back to America and find a place in Savannah or Charleston.

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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 5:18:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Canada is far easier to relocate to if you're in the British Commonwealth... Think of it as a lateral move, as far as the immigration is concerned.  They're harsher on any Yanks who want to move up here, that's for sure!

Speaking as someone who lives in the northermost capital city (Edmonton) I can't even count the times I've cursed our godforsaken frozen wasteland of a climate zone...  But jobs are plentiful even in the recession, healthcare is free (although not always fantastic) and we do have "a lot of the conveniences of the US".   I still am not sure what that means, exactly.

As for moving here for a person you've never met?  Canada is pretty fantastic but I think you need to give your head a shake, m'dear.  At least meet & visit first.

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RE: Would I like Canada? - 3/3/2009 5:24:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm a gypsy. I've ended up in places I didn't really like... but I've also ended up in places that I adore. Of course, I'm not horrifically attached to having to be in the same town I grew up in, or always seeing the same people that I grew up with (even family), so the idea of going from place to place doesn't bother me much.

For me, I would do it for the adventure. If it turned out I didn't like it, I'd start looking for different circumstances, but I wouldn't regret it... the adventure itself would be worth it.

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