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The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 4:35:57 AM   
TexasMaam


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Status: offline 		While my original reply to the OP on the Cougar Domme thread may have been tongue in cheek, it is no less serious in postulating the challenges of trying to engage a ‘generation Y’ male in serious service as a submissive to a mature, 40something Domme..

The casual reference to ‘not being able to stand working with them’, much less engage one in serious service, touched off a wave of responses aimed at flaming the Domme who simply  voiced an opinion about ‘the generation Y sub’.

I would much prefer to see some serious discourse on ‘the generation Y submissive’ vis a vis the shallow drivel about how much fun it is for a 40 year old Domme to ‘use up a much younger hottie subbie boi’ for the fun of her voracious sexual appetite.

Granted, this website is geared to voracious sexual appetites, and while I’m sure it’s much more titillating to contemplate the joys of sex between the difference in ages, a serious discussion on a more serious level with regards to ‘training and management of the generation Y submissive’ is hardly without value.

Recognizing, and naming, a well documented generational difference is not overgeneralization.

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS129795+08-Jan-2008+BW20080108


I maintain the opinion that after working with ‘generation Y’ males in the workplace every day I, personally, would never engage a ‘generation Y’ male in serious or long term service. 

Because I do not engage in BDSM for the sake of sex alone, there are deeper issues of concern for both the sub and the Domme and there are certainly much more serious concerns for Me, personally.

That is not to say they are, as a group, without value, it simply says I don’t want to deal with them, not professionally, not personally, and most of all not vis a vis WIITWD.

I’ll exit stage left now, certain in the knowledge that this thread will derail itself, inevitably geared more to young readers who only want their sexual wank material provided for them at CM than it is geared to provide a forum for discourse of serious BDSM related issues.

Before I go, however, I’ll leave you with the theory, whether it insults your sensibilities or not, that the ‘generation Y’ male in America will prove to be far more demanding, far more self centered, far more undisciplined, far more rebellious, overall, as a group, than his generational predecessors.

I, for one, do not want to spend My time or talent trying to help the ‘generation Y submissive’ discover his submission.  I do not want to ‘accommodate the demands’ of a ‘generation Y sub’.  Thank goodness I don’t have to.

If respondents prefer to write, instead, about how much fun it is just eating them up and spitting them out sexually, as opposed to engaging them in more serious BDSM pursuits, happy cougar blogging . 

Gen Y Boys, get your cum towels out. It’s Cougar Domme blog time at CM!

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 5:09:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is an interesting topic to me, as my sissy maid is a "Gen Y" person I suppose, as well as my support staff at my decidedly vanilla job. While there are definitely differences in communication styles and values, I haven't found them to be hard to deal with, and in many ways they are great to work with.

For the maid, one of the things I like about this generation from a kink perspective is that she is very comfortable and knowledgeable about who she is and what her interests are. She doesn't have a huge amount of baggage about being submissive or gender queer, and the classes she took in undergrad about gender studies and feminism have served her well (who knew these classes could have practical application?)  I get very tired of submissive men my age thinking I can somehow magically drag them out of the kink closet or that I'll play along with the traditional male/female dynamic when I'm not in the play space or bedroom. This does not seem to be an issue for many of the gen y people I have met (I won't presume to judge an entire generation.)

As for work, I've found that I can speak much more directly and plainly to my coworkers -- if they get the value of what we're doing, they work hard and are very focused. The challenge is getting them to see the "value" of petty inter-office politics and junk like that, but it's possible. I also think that the current economic crisis will change a lot of their work habits, as we are all tested by these hard times.  Yes, they are young - but I think of me at 28, and I would rather work with the 28 year olds that they are vs. the hot mess that I was!

These are just my random thoughts, but overall I think the gen y people aren't the disaster they are painted to be. I hate the term cougar and I do wish that emily and I were closer in ages, but I wouldn't trade her for anything. She's good people.

In conclusion....um, "you damn kids get off of my yard!"

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 7:02:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't care if its Gen Y or Avenue Q I have My opinions and they are Mine-they are no less or no more valid than the agreement I find in My bathroom mirror---what I have come to learn is that someone is ALWAYS the younger, smarter, faster, brighter, richer to someone else and for every " Mine works", there are a hundred, " Mine was a disaster"--as a whole, I don't tolerate men or women for that matter-even here, I have the few on both sides I admire, read, listen to and ponder their words---I find the majority inane, boring and self deluded--at ANY age--what I do find is that My closest friends share My basic tenets--My tenets, I want to wallow in Mine, with no apologies.
 
I work with men of all ages, some are brilliant by My standards, thick by others and vice versa, the same can be said for women, I don't take on someone younger because it just isn't what will work for Me or what I seek--but then that's MY right, My choice and yeah My prejudice.  But that's in MY private world--I voted for Obama who is younger, I support Hilary who is younger, I dance to Chelo's music who is younger, I flirt with the deli guy who is younger, but for a one on one intimate relationship ( intimacy meaning mind, emotion, body, hobbies, whatever), I want someone that has experienced some of what I speak, not empathicized it, someone who has dealt with issues, not read about them, someone who can wax poetic about those days and those days are before I was 40, someone who gets the terms "depression era babies", who knows Wounded knee isn't a sports injury,  who knows when Elizabeth wasn't queen, who knows the real meaning behind the "Picture of Doriam Gray"who groans a tad when they get in the tub.--Its choice and its My choice.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 8:43:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaMistressa

I get very tired of submissive men my age thinking I can somehow magically drag them out of the kink closet or that I'll play along with the traditional male/female dynamic when I'm not in the play space or bedroom. This does not seem to be an issue for many of the gen y people I have met (I won't presume to judge an entire generation.)


A-fucking-MEN.

Leaving aside the baiting and sneering tone in the OP to this thread, feminism is a huge issue in my own life. I have personally had the date with the late-40's "Mr. Wonderful" submissive--a lawyer with a six-figure income, two houses and a country estate, fully equipped dungeon and a stable full of race horses, who kept an antiquarian collection of historical coins and artifacts including a fragment of the True Cross and who had deep submissive and masochistic sexual needs. By all lights, on paper, we should have been perfectly compatible--we had shared interests in history and archaeology, we were within a decade of each other in age, etc..

Unfortunately, he was raised with the values of his generation. We didn't have the shared understanding of the world that is necessary for two people to get along--and Lord knows we didn't. Example: he wanted to argue that the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders were as empowering for women as the football team itself is for men--he refused to recognize the enormous disparity in income, the fact that the cheerleaders have no names on their jerseys, the fact that throughout their careers from junior high to the pros, cheerleaders are essentially an honorary group of symbolic prostitutes associated with the team. The fact that one woman from the group was able to run a successful dance studio in the city after being a cheerleader, in his opinion, was perfectly just and fair and completely balanced with the millions of dollars of wages and endorsements which the men on that football field pull down. That was enough "equality" for women, in his view.

By contrast--my so-called "Gen-Y" submissive partner does not carry the burden of a sexist upbringing. (He also hates professional sports, which makes me love him even more.) Politics, human rights and social justice are extremely important to me, both personally and professionally. My submissive at age 20 shares these values with me, and has been active in a number of causes over the years, including Food Not Bombs, women's rights and gay rights groups.

Do older people belong to human rights groups as well? Yes, they do, but there is a reason that so many human rights efforts over the last 60 years have depended on people from 18-25, who are the most willing to embrace change and who often have to take the most risk--this was true of the Civil Rights movement, the Draft Resistance movement, and remains true of the environmentalist movements, peace movements and anti-corporate protests of today. My Gen-Y submissive follows in the footsteps of other idealists who were once young firebrands and will eventually be community leaders with real social and political power. I wish there were more like him of ALL ages.

On the personal level: Is my Gen-Y submissive "demanding", difficult to discipline, or lacking in submissive qualities? Not at all. In his relationship with me, he's the most loving and accommodating, least "topping from the bottom", least manipulating, foot-dragging and bullying man I've ever met, of any orientation. He benefits from having an immense sense of ease and comfort with his own BDSM identity, which is rare in a person of any age--his masochistic and submissive desires are almost completely naturalized to him. In our personal life together, he seems to want nothing more than to be a good submissive--a good man, a good lover, a good slave, and My Good Boy in general. The catch, of course, is that he wants to be these things for ME--not necessarily for every woman, and certainly not for every person who claims authority over him in the rest of the world. He conducts himself with grace and restraint in public, but he does not "submit" to just anyone, or outside the proper context. He has to be at least flirting with a dominant woman before he shows a submissive side.

In other words, I see exactly the same qualities in the Gen Y man that Texas Ma'am does--I just interpret them very differently. Yes, you're bloody damned right, my Gen Y submissive IS a rebel, he IS a strong personality, and he DOESN'T give his loyalty, his service or his obedience at the drop of a hat, "just because" other people feel entitled to it. He DOES question authority, especially institutional authority, he DOES feel empowered to declare just about anything to be bullshit, and he IS willing to disrupt or subvert the systems around him. Especially if he feels they are immoral or unjust.

Whether he is more "self-centered" and "undisciplined" than my own generation and those previous is VERY much in doubt, however. Having lived through the 1970's and seen the excesses of the Free Love, Pop Pills and Fuck-Everything-that-Moves Disco Era, the Reagan Kill-'em-All, Rape-the-Corpses and Steal-Their-Wallets Era, the Lie-Through-Your-Damned-Teeth Pretend-You-Stand-For-Something and Betray-and-Rob-the-People excesses of both the Bushreichs and the Clinton Era, the rises and falls of Cocaine Addiction and Crack Addiction now followed by the new rise of Methamphetamine Addiction?

Yeah. Sorry, but I'm not too impressed by the "discipline" and "selflessness" and "lack of demands" of these generations that now stand in judgment of Gen Y. Try smelling your own shorts once in a while, people--you'll find they stink plenty. If the younger generation is not too impressed with us, and judges us by the state of the world that we're handing down to them? Gotta say--I can't blame them.

The older generations have run the ecology, the economy, the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions into the damned ground. Some of us seem to want young people to give us automatic reverence and respect for our age--but what the HELL have we done to deserve it? Are we handing them the keys to a bright future, a better world than the one we received from our parents and grandparents? Or have we made just about everything worse?

What have we done to earn our status as sacred cows? Why should they take our word for ANYTHING, when the authorities of the older generation, from priests to Presidents, from cops to CEO's, prove over and over and OVER that they lie, they rape, they betray everything they are supposed to stand for?

I'll agree that the modern generation is more cynical and more angry even than my own was, in many respects. I disagree that they have no cause. Politically, socially, even economically, I would fully expect them to be trouble--and quite frankly, I think their elders have it coming. The fact that there are people here who are willing to blame the state of the world or the economy on people in their early 20's, who are trying to hold down their first jobs and have only voted in one election so far? Is absolutely absurd, in my opinion.

If you want any power and privilege to be associated with age, you have to take the responsibility that goes with it. I've been a full citizen with voting privileges and legal rights for 21 years--my submissive has had the same privileges for 2 years. Which of us has had more opportunity to shape the world according to their values? Which of us is more responsible for the state of affairs in the world today?

*shrug* I could "Cougar" blog all day about how lovely it is to spend time with a man who doesn't need to be hit with a defibrillator to get an erection, sure. But since this thread started with a political, personal and social argument, I've decided to continue in that vein. There are many reasons that I love my Gen Y submissive, and the assumption that even the majority of these are superficial or physical is a mistaken one. The younger generation is different, perhaps, from my own, but how we choose to spin these differences is up to us.




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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 9:06:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		my comment will be brief on this topic, because---and i hate to compare--like vanilla, i often see the genY boys "hunting" down the cougars than it being the other way around. as i take a step back, i see that the lifestyle is not w/o its hunters in regards to cougars.

we (cougars) have the choice to say no b/c of all the potential ills we may encounter from the genY boys. we set limits, at least i do, b/c i do realize that it is my option to deal with or to kick to the side a genY boy. YET the reality is, that i will be approach or encounter subbies that will be younger than myself with an age difference between 2yrs to 20yrs...still, i have my limits and decide what i will and will not deal with.

i am not on the prowl and the lifestyle, as TexasMaam stated, is not sexually driven...it is much more deeper than that. a genY boy will either accept or reject "that".


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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 9:41:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		You're entitled to your preferences, of course.  I think this attitude is present in every generation.  I remember my grandma talking about how scandalous it was when Elvis danced around on stage and how her mother beat her with a belt after discovering she had snuck out to see Elvis play.  Now Madonna and Britney make out on stage and it is normal.

Personally, I work with the people that my boss hires, because it's part of my job.  Then I focus on my job, instead of my co-workers.  I also work with teenage boys in an authority figure-ish role and can verify that it can be a BITCH to be an authority figure for genY and I'm a part of it lol  I guess I can understand your frustration, but I do think it's sad that you underestimate the potential of the up and coming.

Although I'm not necessarily looking for a 'submissive', I would take chemistry where I found chemistry no matter the age.


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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 9:59:50 AM   
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I don't really like the term Generation Y. It seems like something TIME magazine coined.

The baby boomer generation was the post war generation, born after WWII. It was arguably a counter-cultural generation while young which shifted its allegiance to Reaganism while older. It had many defining influences, including the feminist movement, the anti-war movement, and the civil rights movement.

The GI generation preceeded the boomers and was shaped by WWII.

The whole point of "X" in GEN X was not as a letter from the alphabet, but as an algebraic symbol of ambiguity. Absent anything defining, what shaped GEN X? What was the X-Factor? Arguably nothing national in scope shaped or influenced it.

So, all GEN Y seems to say is that its the generation after X, but what the hell does the Y stand for? Is it just a continuation of ambiguity? This seems like a lazy use of language to me.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 12:21:21 PM   
aidan


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Status: offline 		Okay, you want to have a non-sexual intellectual debate about the issue of generational politics? Fine by me. I'll take your word despite every attempt in your OP to derail such an endeavor through insult, baiting and just a generally shitty attitude.

For the most part, Shakti got the nail on the head. My post is essentially a continuation of hers.

The question I pose to TexasMaam and anybody else in her related age bracket and above is this: what have you done to earn my respect?

This is the question that on the minds and tongue-tips of virtually all Generation Y, whether they recognize it consciously or not. We look around the world we live in, the people we share it with, and wonder what your great achievements are that should garner our admiration.

The Reuters report that TexasMaam linked to (which I find odd, seeing as it's an almost glowing endorsement of Generation Y workers, completely counter to her arguments, but far be it for me to chide an opponent for cleanly shooting themselves in the foot) says that Generation Y workers desire to be spoken to plainly, straight-forward and are very perceptive and bristle against "spin". This is because we are very aware that virtually everyone has lied to us.

The corporate power structure lies to us, the government lies to us, our churches lie to us, our teachers lie to us and in many cases our own families have lied to us. All of the people who were supposed to safeguard us in our formative years, and going back further to the people who were supposed to shape the world before we were born, have largely been forces of destruction, misery and discord.

But the greater reaction to this is not anger, as Shakti said; that I will argue against. No, the most common reactions to this knowledge from Generation Y are not anger but a sense of disappointment and ennui. The average Generation Y person is convinced on some level that things are too far gone, too fucked up. That you have all so tarnished the world and so deeply entrenched the status quo that we are doomed no matter what. The best course of action is to just sit back and try to enjoy the ride. One Minute To Midnight, time to party.

Some of us though, enough I hope, are very angry and are working hard to do something. We are trying to rouse the rest of our peers from complacent nihilism and remind them that one day the people who have controlled the world will be old, weak and dead, and we will be able to smash their constructs and shape a world that we desire.

Of course, the little hidden secret is that this is absurd, will never actually happen. As somebody wise I know once observed, you have to aim high to even reach the middle.

Now of course this is all very general, and doesn't apply to everyone over 30 or under, respectively. And further, these struggles play out to varying degrees of intensity with every successive generation. But it is a modeling of general attitudes; an explanation of why we are, why I am rebellious, insolent, impetuous, demanding, and why I nor anybody else of my generation will ever apologize for it.

I don't need to "discover" my submission, but I do need somebody to give me a good reason why I should submit to them other than fiat. That's in sex, in relationships, in the workplace, in life.

So decry the insolent youth who scoff at the Great Old Ones and Hallowed Traditions of leather and life, the rough beasts who slouch towards Bethlehem, their hours coming 'round fast. With any luck you won't have to endure the world we'll be working hard to create.


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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 12:33:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		From a person that adores most young people in the Gen Y category.........I have to say Aidan, your rage is not original.

Your words are very similar to what was voiced by people in their twenties, in the sixties and seventies. Then they became what and who, you ( Gen Y ) rage against.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 12:45:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

From a person that adores most young people in the Gen Y category.........I have to say Aidan, your rage is not original.

Your words are very similar to what was voiced by people in their twenties, in the sixties and seventies. Then they became what and who, you ( Gen Y ) rage against.


Don't forget the 50s, 40s, 30s, 20s, the 1770s, back and back and back.

The point is not that we are wholly unique in our feelings, the point is that we are not excused from action simply because others tried and didn't succeed on grand, epic scales.

And I would argue that your postulate that all people of that generation abandoned their values. Our culture simply chooses to focus on the ones who became the most "successful", i.e. the so-called "yuppies". The counter-culture movement of the sixties was in fact very successful as a force for social change.

Consider the fact that the Vietnam War was not subject to large protest until several years after the start of official American involvement and the protests were part of a minority opinion among the general populace at the time.

Jump to the Second Gulf War, which is the first war in at least American history, if not all of history, to be subject to massive protest before it even began, as an aspect of massive public opinion.

The take away: not everybody over 30 is a boogeyman, they don't all "grow up", and they do pass on their values.

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 1:08:59 PM   
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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 1:10:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aidan

So decry the insolent youth who scoff at the Great Old Ones and Hallowed Traditions of leather and life, the rough beasts who slouch towards Bethlehem, their hours coming 'round fast. With any luck you won't have to endure the world we'll be working hard to create.



I'm absolutely not going to argue politics with you.  Honestly, I wouldn't be a match for you.

I'm also not going to argue about the state of the world.  I hate to inform you of this, but there are a lot of us out there who aren't in the 'Generation Y' who aren't thrilled about it either.  So, maybe we can skip that part, too.

Every generation is going to make both progress and mistakes.  It kind of comes with the territory.

Funny thing about this is, in a thread about Generation Y, you went ahead and did the leather slam.  I'm not sure why that came up, but since you mention it.....

There are a lot of people in the leather community that I have a great respect for.  It has nothing to do with which generation they are in.  It has everything to do with the opportunities that they opened up for Me.  Many of the places I go, things I do, and ways I live were made available through some of the work of the leather community.  Are they perfect people?  No.  That doesn't negate the fact that I've benefited by the things they've done.

I'm not saying you have to respect anyone in the leather community.  What I am saying is, just like you don't want determinations about you based on age, maybe you might want to afford those in the leather community the same privilege.  


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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 1:32:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I don't disagree with you. 


No, I wasn't meaning to say you did. I was elaborating. I realize that it can be hard to distinguish between a counter-point and an elaboration with me sometimes. In the same vein...
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I'm absolutely not going to argue politics with you.  Honestly, I wouldn't be a match for you.

I'm also not going to argue about the state of the world.  I hate to inform you of this, but there are a lot of us out there who aren't in the 'Generation Y' who aren't thrilled about it either.  So, maybe we can skip that part, too.

Every generation is going to make both progress and mistakes.  It kind of comes with the territory.

Funny thing about this is, in a thread about Generation Y, you went ahead and did the leather slam.  I'm not sure why that came up, but since you mention it.....

There are a lot of people in the leather community that I have a great respect for.  It has nothing to do with which generation they are in.  It has everything to do with the opportunities that they opened up for Me.  Many of the places I go, things I do, and ways I live were made available through some of the work of the leather community.  Are they perfect people?  No.  That doesn't negate the fact that I've benefited by the things they've done.

I'm not saying you have to respect anyone in the leather community.  What I am saying is, just like you don't want determinations about you based on age, maybe you might want to afford those in the leather community the same privilege.


My intent with a little poetic wax was not to slam the leather community in its entirety, but to make a subtle riposte at those in all of the BDSM community who are averse to a new generation looking to inherit their culture.

I actually have a great deal of respect for the leather community, having subbed to more than one Domme in my very early days who were at one point a part of the leather community. While you and I may have words in other realms, this isn't one of them and I am sorry that I offended you Lady Pact.

I'll be first to admit that an over-exuberant passion is among my greatest strengths and weaknesses.


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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 1:32:51 PM   
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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 1:33:51 PM   
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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 1:44:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aidan

My intent with a little poetic wax was not to slam the leather community in its entirety, but to make a subtle riposte at those in all of the BDSM community who are averse to a new generation looking to inherit their culture.

I actually have a great deal of respect for the leather community, having subbed to more than one Domme in my very early days who were at one point a part of the leather community. While you and I may have words in other realms, this isn't one of them and I am sorry that I offended you Lady Pact.

I'll be first to admit that an over-exuberant passion is among my greatest strengths and weaknesses.



The irony of the matter is hilarious, since I said the same thing about you in the other thread.

I'm not offended, Aidan.  Believe it or not, you and Shatki have brought Me more than a few smiles these last few days.





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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 1:46:31 PM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Can we go back to beating up on trolls?


LOL.  You're not insinuating that you'd rather go back to things like arguing about pro dommes and 'do me' bottoms?




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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 4:35:59 PM   
OneMoreWaste


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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam
I would much prefer to see some serious discourse on ‘the generation Y submissive’ vis a vis the shallow drivel about how much fun it is for a 40 year old Domme to ‘use up a much younger hottie subbie boi’ for the fun of her voracious sexual appetite.


Just curious- why would you care about serious discourse, when you seem well-entrenched in your opinion that Gen Y partners are not for you?
If you come into a thread about a subject you have no interest in just to post negative generalizations, yeah, you're gonna get toasted. That's how this new-fangled intarweb thingy works

Anyway, just wanted to clarify. I'm off to look for a thread with a higher wank quotient... laterz!


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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 4:47:56 PM   
sodsta


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Status: offline 		I had a whole long thing written out, but the longer it went on, the less sense it made. It essentially boiled down to "everyone is an individual" and I think that's good enough.

< Message edited by sodsta -- 3/3/2009 4:48:32 PM >

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RE: The Gen Y submissive male - 3/3/2009 5:46:43 PM   
LovingMistress45


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Status: offline 		There are wonderful young subs and older subs. There are wankers in both group. I don't think age defines anything other than how many years you have been alive on this earth.

Why does it matter to anyone who someone else chooses?  I don't believe having a preference for any particular trait is bias - however sweeping generalizations about any group based on any trait is a bias and in extreme forms it becomes prejudice.

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