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cpl4subfem -> can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 9:07:53 AM)

i dont know about you guys but i would like to have a room where serious people actually looking for hook ups and friends can post the sites sns and ids of those who are fake, what i mean by fake is those who have come in here on this site, posing as someone looking for a Dom/Domme or vise versa and thru e mails and chat have played around not really being serious, they are ones looking to get off on pics and reading erotic e mails general harrasing those who are seriously looking for friends, submissives/slaves, Doms/Dommes.i dont know about you i am sick of this BS,.we need like a referal system, like if your serious you are sponsered by a sponser moderater, verfied by chatting or some other chat server, like having to have a alt chat server profile with real pics. or thru referal check with other pl, kinda like a friends network on other sites. it may be a pill to do but all in all to those who are serious abuot looking for someone it would be worth the trouble to set up.. thank you




MHOO314 -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 9:14:11 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cpl4subfem

i dont know about you guys but i would like to have a room where serious people actually looking for hook ups and friends can post the sites sns and ids of those who are fake, what i mean by fake is those who have come in here on this site, posing as someone looking for a Dom/Domme or vise versa and thru e mails and chat have played around not really being serious, they are ones looking to get off on pics and reading erotic e mails general harrasing those who are seriously looking for friends, submissives/slaves, Doms/Dommes.i dont know about you i am sick of this BS,.we need like a referal system, like if your serious you are sponsered by a sponser moderater, verfied by chatting or some other chat server, like having to have a alt chat server profile with real pics. or thru referal check with other pl, kinda like a friends network on other sites. it may be a pill to do but all in all to those who are serious abuot looking for someone it would be worth the trouble to set up.. thank you



At the end of the day, it is all words and anyone can write well--I look for postings, the length of time for a profile, the amount and content of postings, but again it is all the written word and it is all after all hearsay.




JohnWarren -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 9:18:52 AM)

Let me get this straight. You'd like to have a place where people can anonymously post online attacks on other anonymous persons they've heard of doing something of which they don't approve?

I'd recommending dropping by the notestream "Deadbeat Dom" and rethinking this.

At best, it would be useless since the attacked could simply create other profiles. At worst, it would degenerate into a witch hunt mentality.

Any good it might accomplish would be buried under the attacks.




stef -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 10:34:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cpl4subfem

i dont know about you guys but i would like to have a room where serious people actually looking for hook ups and friends can post the sites sns and ids of those who are fake, what i mean by fake is those who have come in here on this site, posing as someone looking for a Dom/Domme or vise versa and thru e mails and chat have played around not really being serious, they are ones looking to get off on pics and reading erotic e mails general harrasing those who are seriously looking for friends, submissives/slaves, Doms/Dommes.i dont know about you i am sick of this BS,.we need like a referal system, like if your serious you are sponsered by a sponser moderater, verfied by chatting or some other chat server, like having to have a alt chat server profile with real pics. or thru referal check with other pl, kinda like a friends network on other sites. it may be a pill to do but all in all to those who are serious abuot looking for someone it would be worth the trouble to set up.. thank you

The mods/admins have already stated on numerous occasions that such blacklists are not welcome here (and they would violate the TOS to boot), so you can probably forget about such a list ever being shared here. It's already been pointed out by others why such list isn't feasable anyway.

The results that you're seeking, albeit by a much different mechanism, are already available here. The forums. It's not the gotta-have-it-NOW, drive-thru, scratch-and-win solution you're hoping for but it can serve the same purpose if you let it. You can learn a remarkable amount about people and their character here as has been illustrated by events over the last week. There are a couple of threads where some of our members' more pathetic and reprehensible behavior was dragged out in to the glaring light of day for all to see. It's usually not quite as dramatic as that around here, but you can get a very good feel for a person and more importantly, make that determination yourself instead of taking some unknown's word for it.

Yes, it takes actual work this way. Don't be lazy, suck it up.

~stef




FelinePersuasion -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 11:57:15 AM)

this topic comes up once a week I will tell you what every one else has said.

Nobodies interested in a board about propsed whankers time wasters players wanna be's or fakes There's no way to garentee that someone wasn't put on that list as vengance and your idea of a poser fake troll what ever will be diffrent than others idea's Your looser might be my dream guy.


BTW alt is the bigest joke with the most time wasters around if you ask me. Over half the people there are whanker men looking for a quick lay. And over half the entire picture population is dick or pussy shots. So alt.com's not a good referance in what you mean.



Oops I mis read that you didn't say at alt at all oh well we all make reading mistakes




LaMalinche -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 12:27:57 PM)

Thank you feline.

For the record:

I am a player - I play CD's all the time. Board games too.

I am also a wanna be. There are SO many things that I wanna be.

I am a fake. I am not a real person at all. I just play one on TV.

I don't think I am a whanker however - I think you have to be British to be one of those.

Well, 3 outta 4 isn't bad.

LaMalinche

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Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.




girl4you2 -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 12:42:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaMalinche

Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.

interesting that this could have been written at anytime during the past few years....c'est la guerre




LaMalinche -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 1:09:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: girl4you2

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaMalinche

Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.

interesting that this could have been written at anytime during the past few years....c'est la guerre


It was. According to snopes it appeared on the internet in 2001.

LaMalinche

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When do I get my own little flashy memory messer upper thingy?




cloudboy -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 2:24:33 PM)


I like it!!!!!!!!! Two posts in, and you want a full bore revolution!

You rush the dungeon, I'll rush the server, and we'll smash the yokes of deception in one, decisive, surgical blow.





subfever -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 4:35:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cpl4subfem

i dont know about you guys but i would like to have a room where serious people actually looking for hook ups and friends can post the sites sns and ids of those who are fake, what i mean by fake is those who have come in here on this site, posing as someone looking for a Dom/Domme or vise versa and thru e mails and chat have played around not really being serious, they are ones looking to get off on pics and reading erotic e mails general harrasing those who are seriously looking for friends, submissives/slaves, Doms/Dommes.i dont know about you i am sick of this BS,.we need like a referal system, like if your serious you are sponsered by a sponser moderater, verfied by chatting or some other chat server, like having to have a alt chat server profile with real pics. or thru referal check with other pl, kinda like a friends network on other sites. it may be a pill to do but all in all to those who are serious abuot looking for someone it would be worth the trouble to set up.. thank you


I've had similar thoughts in the past as well... due to being played by supposed Dommes who eventually "proved" to be someone other than they represented themselves to be.

Ah yes... the games they play. It can get pretty irritating, can't it?

But I think most of us can imagine how "exposing" these people can lead to eventual abuses. And also... it's damn near impossible to obtain any real proof anyway.

Being on the short end of these games used to really get under my skin, but it doesn't anymore. Here's some advice you might want to consider:

First and foremost, don't allow your hopes to build up high when communicating with a prospective match. Keep yourself emotionally unattached. Assume that there's a high probability that the prospect is not who she/he represents herself/himself to be. After all, this is the internet. While there is some good on the internet, it's also a cesspool of fakes. Accept it for what it is. The secondary advantage of using this approach is that you'll be less likely to appear as being too hungry or even desperate.

The next step is to move your communication to your private e-mail addresses as soon as possible. My personal target is to do this within a week or two... assuming that we've exchanged at least 3-4 informative and comfortable messages. If your prospect balks at this, consider this a major red flag. Keep in mind that most fakes want to avoid providing anything that may lead to their true identity.

Now there will always be some rare genuine people that will fall through the cracks using this system. It's possible that you might lose one of these rare exceptions, but the odds will be in greatly in your favor. If you're not willing to stand strong and take the risk of walking away, you will only put yourself at an even greater risk of being played with.

Assuming that you've moved your exchanges to your private e-mail addresses, the next step is to graduate your communication to the telephone or webcam. Assuming that more informative messages have been exchanged, and the flow of exchange remains comfortable... your prospect should be ready to "prove-up" within 3 or 4 weeks from the initial exchange.

The phone or webcam is a tougher step to take. Most fakes will back off at this point.

I took a look back at all of the approach-contacts I made at this site. Of the 12 "Dommes" who responded and ultimately exchanged several informative messages with me... all but two backed off at this stage of "proving-up" on the phone. About half disappeared quickly altogether, and the other half came up with various (but IMO very weak) excuses why they couldn't or didn't want to talk on the phone. These "women" offered to continue exchanging e-mails, but I declined in every case.

Of course, graduating to the phone doesn't really prove anything other than gender. And even this isn't 100% fool-proof. But my guess is that most of the game-playing going on around here is by males. And by game-playing, I mean those willing to invest boatloads of time and effort to draw you in emotionally for whatever their selfish underlying motivations are.




brightspot -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 6:09:45 PM)

quote:


Vanilla





Posts: 2
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Status: offline i dont know about you guys but i would like to have a room where serious people actually looking for hook ups and friends can post the sites sns and ids of those who are fake, what i mean by fake is those who have come in here on this site, posing as someone looking for a Dom/Domme or vise versa and thru e mails and chat have played around not really being serious, they are ones looking to get off on pics and reading erotic e mails general harrasing those who are seriously looking for friends, submissives/slaves, Doms/Dommes.i dont know about you i am sick of this BS,.we need like a referal system, like if your serious you are sponsered by a sponser moderater, verfied by chatting or some other chat server, like having to have a alt chat server profile with real pics. or thru referal check with other pl, kinda like a friends network on other sites. it may be a pill to do but all in all to those who are serious abuot looking for someone it would be worth the trouble to set up.. thank you


Yikes.....

Who is to say you aren't Fake?

Can you imagine a board where people who get upset for what ever reason could go to and call some one Fake or any number of libelous chit????

"Get Real" and only interact Real Life , then No Problems, Right?


*Brightspot




FelinePersuasion -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 8:09:39 PM)

Yes Meister tried doing that, every one according to him was idiots and posures and he ended up on moderation.



Can you imagine a board where people who get upset for what ever reason could go to and call some one Fake or any number of libelous chit




siamsa24 -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 8:43:45 PM)

And whose definition of "fake" would we use? I have been told that I was a fake for some really bizzare reasons including, but not limited to:

1. Not having (and not wanting) a web cam
2. Not engaging in cyber-sex
3. Not giving out my telephone number to complete strangers
4. Not sharing nude or graphic photographs with complete strangers
5. Speaking my mind
6. Having an opinion
7. Being smart

......and many other things.

Am I a fake? Maybe, I don't know.........it depends on the definition that you are using I suppose.........




Arpig -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 9:32:20 PM)

well i was once told I was a figment of my own imagination....does that make me real or fake?




siamsa24 -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/22/2006 10:10:07 PM)

hmmmm, that would make you interesting to study, although it may also make you a real-fake, meaning that you are some kind of strange cross-breed of a "real" and a "fake"
Perhaps you can blend into both cultures! Maybe you will be shunned by both! Who knows!




FelinePersuasion -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/23/2006 12:48:07 AM)

siamsa so true MV was adding people to the fakers list just cause he disagree'd with people who said that nobody cared about fakers lists, With that behavior every one and their dog around here would be fakers, cause every one* well most every one* speaks their minds. And he was putting people w ho didn't say things he liked or approved as fakers.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/23/2006 6:24:21 AM)

I dunno, maybe all the subs that whine about getting overloaded by wanker doms should get themselves posted on a blacklist so that no one will want to email them.

Seems to solve the problem.




IrishMist -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/23/2006 6:31:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

well i was once told I was a figment of my own imagination....does that make me real or fake?


LMFAO that is the best laugh I have gotten yet






Gauge -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/23/2006 9:31:31 PM)

Why is it that all of these "Expose the phony sub/Dom" threads are started by people with less than 5 posts?




MHOO314 -> RE: can we have a posting board for posting known fakes in this site? (1/24/2006 7:05:53 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Gauge

Why is it that all of these "Expose the phony sub/Dom" threads are started by people with less than 5 posts?




Priceless!




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