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CelticPrince -> The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 1:07:01 PM)

A  few months back I started a thread called Submission a gift?

I  had intendeded to follow that up with this thread within a week and then work schedules went awry so here it is!

From the view of both sides of the slash; how do you look at Dominance? A  means to an end if your on  the "D" side or a matter of submission  to a greater being is your on the " s"  side?
Does a dominant owe a sufficient volume of consideration to his/her sub/slave to consider it a gift or a responsibility to maintain her/him in some balanced equation. If you on the " s" side is your opposite slash partner relationship with you viewed as a gift?

Thoughts anyone?

C  P



littlewonder -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 1:09:27 PM)

Neither one is a gift. It's simply a part of our personalities we are attracted to.




RealSub58 -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 1:28:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

Does a dominant owe a sufficient volume of consideration to his sub to consider it a gift or a responsibility to maintain her in some balanced equation.                        Thoughts anyone?

C  P


If you don't mind CP, please elaborate on this statement/question?



Prinsexx -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 1:34:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

A  few months back I started a thread called Submission a gift?

I  had intendeded to follow that up with this thread within a week and then work schedules went awry so here it is!

From the view of both sides of the slash; how do you look at Dominance? A  means to an end if your on  the "D" side or a matter of submission  to a greater being is your on the " s"  side?
Does a dominant owe a sufficient volume of consideration to his/her sub/slave to consider it a gift or a responsibility to maintain her/him in some balanced equation. If you on the " s" side is your opposite slash partner relationship with you viewed as a gift?

Thoughts anyone?

C  P

Domination is a gift. Worth waiting for. Great on special occasions. Best when freely fiven. Besy when one feels one deserves it and is worthy of the gift. Worth workng hard for.
Not always an appropriate gift. Sometimes given with one hand a taken away with the other.
Sometimes withheld.
Often beautifully wrapped but disappointing on the inside.
Rarely given unconditionally... such is the way of the world.
I still got gifts hidden away in secret memory places where I can get them out  and remember them with fondness.
You know when the gifts are right then I am insatiable and cannot get enough.
 



AquaticSub -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 1:49:12 PM)

~Fast Reply~

I take a somewhat unpopular view on the idea of gifts - they don't have to come in boxes and they don't have to be tangible as I think of several things off-hand that can be given but don't apply. Such as houses and wedding services (since mine is on the brain).

I believe that many things are gifts. His presence in my life and therefore his domination, his love and everything else is a precious gift. The love of my friends is a beautiful gift and I hope that I give as much to others as they do to me.



agirl -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 1:51:51 PM)

There's no doubt that M is the greatest giver between him and I. I don't have as much to offer him as he does me. I can't help that or alter it. That's just the way it is.

I don't even bother thinking about or equating these things as *gifts*. I appreciate everything he's done and does and will continue to do so.

I'm just bored with the whole *gift* analogy. It's so tired and dull these days.

agirl







catize -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 2:24:52 PM)

A dominant is not a ‘greater being’.  I have agreed to submit because it is the type of relationship I want.  I think of them as men, human and fallible, but they have the qualities and character which allow me to trust them to take the lead.
Dominance may be a gift if we consider the word ‘gift’ to mean talent. I have the desire to submit, but it takes a certain aptitude on their part to evoke my surrender and bring it to fruition.     



MsAlaria -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 2:43:35 PM)

To me, a gift is something given with no expectation of something in return.  For example, you give someone a gift for Christmas or their Birthday.  In the spirit of true gift giving, you do it because you want to, not because you expect to get one back.  When you offer your submission or Dominance to someone, you expect something in exchange for that offer.  My time, my attention, my methods of play might be a "gift".  My dominance however is not.  It is a part of who I am, ingrained into my personality. 




domiguy -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 2:44:27 PM)

I give up. It is clearly a gift.



Lordandmaster -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 2:47:26 PM)

Of course it's a gift--to be requited with vigorous cock-worship.



domiguy -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 2:59:25 PM)

so true...And there is nothing that says "thank you" for the gift, like a cock plundering a throat or a fist up one's ass.



agirl -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 3:04:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

so true...And there is nothing that says "thank you" for the gift, like a cock plundering a throat or a fist up one's ass.


If that was a suitable or satisfactory*thank-you*, I'd never be beholden.

I have GOT to get me a shallow bloke!...lol

agirl



Lynnxz -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 3:11:03 PM)



quote:

ORIGINAL: agirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

so true...And there is nothing that says "thank you" for the gift, like a cock plundering a throat or a fist up one's ass.


If that was a suitable or satisfactory*thank-you*, I'd never be beholden.

I have GOT to get me a shallow bloke!...lol

agirl



Or one with tiny hands?



CatdeMedici -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 3:33:11 PM)

I don't see either side of the kneel as a gift, I see it as a preference in relationship style-the only gift I see is when two people have that mutual feeling that they want to grow into a relationship because its so damn hard to find a mate these days--after that I see both sides owning the responsibility to make it succeed. I assume and expect the same level of work, commitment, responsibility, communication and devotion that I am willing to put in.



mc1234 -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 3:55:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Of course it's a gift--to be requited with vigorous cock-worship.


Will you wrap it in a pretty bow first?  :) 



DesFIP -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 3:58:56 PM)

We find our presence in each other's lives to be great gifts. A last chance at happiness we never thought we could have or deserve. We are grateful to each other for being complementary to ourselves. Together we are more than we could be alone.



heartcream -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 5:35:48 PM)

Life is a gift. Every moment is.



Kana -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/8/2009 8:48:34 PM)

It's not a gift.
A gift is something freely given, with no strings attached.
When I take on a submissive/slave, I am taking on a huge amount of responsibility.
And so is she.

It's a responsibility.
It's a joy.

It's like those old army commercials.
"It's not just a job, It's an adventure."



eyesopened -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/9/2009 4:18:35 AM)

Since I consider Dominance or submission as states of being, they cannot be given, but they can be celebrated.  His gift to me is not Dominance, I don't want Dominance, I want to be in a state of submission so what He gives me is a focal point for submission.  In other words His gift to me is my own state of submission and sense of peace therein.  My state of submission gives Him a focal point for His Dominance and His sense of peace therein.  The circle is completed and harmony is acheived.



LaTigresse -> RE: The Gift ofDominance?? (3/9/2009 4:31:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

I don't see either side of the kneel as a gift, I see it as a preference in relationship style-the only gift I see is when two people have that mutual feeling that they want to grow into a relationship because its so damn hard to find a mate these days--after that I see both sides owning the responsibility to make it succeed. I assume and expect the same level of work, commitment, responsibility, communication and devotion that I am willing to put in.


This states, quite perfectly, what I was trying to find words to say.

Her submission is not a gift to me, nor is my dominance to her. Both exist to compliment the other.

Edited to add........I have seen many, on both sides of the kneel, that seem to feel their dominance/submission is a gift. Anyone that feels their submission to me is a gift is going to be quite bent out of shape when I do not treat it as such. I won't be sending out any "Thank You" cards.



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