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Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 4:31:41 AM

VanessaChaland

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http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/08/gingrich-irrational/

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/08/brooks-freeze-insane/

Lost. Morose. Scared. Emasculated. Depressed.
Willing to run ads on Craigslist : "Desperately Seeking Someone" to lead us, a religious leader, a Reagan, a Rove minion, someone, something, another fundie "bot", anything.

(In honor of you Mr. Dominant GOP man, who sent me racist comments to my private inbox. You know who you are.) :)

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 4:40:19 AM

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Did you really believe that all republicans support everything Rush says? People make cracks about his show all the time. Nothing new.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 5:11:53 AM

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Certainly those in Washington don't want to say anything against him... They cower at the thought of having to critisize anything Limberger says.(Makes me feel so secure... knowing that the GOP can't stand up to a radio host when they have to stand against the terrorists.)

Spineless cowards!

But, hey, "You da man, Michael Steele! You da man!" (I swear to god... it's starting to feel like a scene from "Idiocracy")

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 5:20:02 AM

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The Audacity of FRAUD. NObama

All Show and No Substance. Obfuscating. Promise Breaking. Lying.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 5:40:18 AM

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Thanks for the links to the liberal blogs of what Rush said. I thought it might actually interesting to compare both Gingrich and Rush comments as I see them,bottom line, are that the President's agenda is not save the economy, but redistribute the economy...he is going off in ten different directions and ramming Big Government programs through the legislative process before people can figure out that the pain in their butt is a three Trillion dollar dildo. Why should this administrations agenda be wished to succed by sane person who can stand on their own two feet.

This Administration will not be distracted from it goal of Big Governemtn and taking from producers to give to non-producers and to hide that it is so far over it's head in actually "performing"...creates a Rush Limbaugh controversy that has dominated the airwaves for a week, have added considerably to the media powerhouse that is Rush Limbaugh and, according to estimates increased his audience 50% - 100% depending on the pundit. All those hours of airtime that should have been spend on some in-depth analysis and explanation to the public as to what this Congress has done, and is doing, to put us into a deeper recession was "croweded out" by a White House planned controversy of silliness while people are losing their homes and jobs, and retirement funds. Shame on them.

GINGRICH: I don’t think anyone should want the president of the United States to fail. I want some of his policies to be stopped, but I don’t want the president of the United States to fail. I want him to learn new policies.

Rush Limbaugh: Why do we have to accept the premise here that because of the historical nature of his presidency, that we want him to succeed? This is affirmative action, if we do that. We want to promote failure, we want to promote incompetence, we want to stand by and not object to what he's doing simply because of the color of his skin? Sorry. I got past the historical nature of this months ago. He is the president of the United States, he's my president, he's a human being, and his ideas and policies are what count for me, not his skin color, not his past, not whatever ties he doesn't have to being down with the struggle, all of that's irrelevant to me. We're talking about my country, the United States of America, my nieces, my nephews, your kids, your grandkids. Why in the world do we want to saddle them with more liberalism and socialism? Why would I want to do that? So I can answer it, four words, "I hope he fails." And that would be the most outrageous thing anybody in this climate could say. Shows you just how far gone we are. Well, I know, I know. I am the last man standing."http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 6:20:01 AM

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The spineless coward is NObama.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 6:26:58 AM

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It's pretty obvious who leads the Democratic party now.

The GOP is in a unique state because they're out of power, and the Bushies were too unpopular to groom a successor. McCain is not viewed favorably, and Palin has too many negatives. Gingrich may have possibilities, although he's a blast from the past. Jindal just screwed himself with the speech but should be back to some degree.

In short, nobody's looking good for the job, but someone will show up and do it. I bet it'll be a governor.

And Limbaugh - come on. He'd never forsake his current job making large money for a run for office. He couldn't even handle the controversy of being a sports commentator. Plus, he appeals to the right wing of the GOP but has no support outside of it.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 6:37:15 AM

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The Audacity of FRAUD. NObama

All Show and No Substance. Obfuscating. Promise Breaking. Lying.

Yea, he's more and more starting to look very much like Reagan. All show, no substance a few catch phrases and presto nothing like a conservative.

This first 7-8 weeks in Reagan's 1st term back in the day were a real take down.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 6:52:03 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

It's pretty obvious who leads the Democratic party now.

The GOP is in a unique state because they're out of power, and the Bushies were too unpopular to groom a successor. McCain is not viewed favorably, and Palin has too many negatives. Gingrich may have possibilities, although he's a blast from the past. Jindal just screwed himself with the speech but should be back to some degree.

In short, nobody's looking good for the job, but someone will show up and do it. I bet it'll be a governor.

And Limbaugh - come on. He'd never forsake his current job making large money for a run for office. He couldn't even handle the controversy of being a sports commentator. Plus, he appeals to the right wing of the GOP but has no support outside of it.

The real humor and joke in this whole thing is that these guys all have the same tired 'trickle down' arguments. Gingrich is the Paris Hilton of politics...famous only because he's famous and is nothing like the TR repub he claims to be. Palin is a political bimbo. Jindal is a superficial, patroninzing, condescending fool if he thinks any real traction resulted from his one speech after Obama's first address.

As for Limbaugh I kinda like watching this crew self-destruct. IF the GOP truly has to rely upon a radio talk show host and his partisan tripe...it will continue to shrink.

Clear Channel is nothing different than XM and Sirius radio did...borrowing millions to pay a single segment's host $400 million. It is possible he may not last for the whole contract. Do you think they will actually make a profit on this man...hardly. Ratings be damned...the advertising money isn't there any more than it is for the dying newspaper industry.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 7:08:57 AM

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This might be interesting, as there's been this growing cleaving between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives ever since the end of the Reagan years. The bulk of the GOP rank-and-file is made up of social conservatives which would encompass the Religious Right and the Bible-thumpers of Middle America. Politically, this group is worlds apart from the Wall Street hucksters and quick-buck artists who support privatization, deregulation, and free trade agreements which characterized the Reagan-Bush era (and which brought us to our current economic dilemma). The Administrations of Reagan and Bush have been, essentially, pandering to the bulk of social conservatives in the GOP (which is what Limbaugh has been doing as well).

But this seems like a case of Limbaugh realizing where his listeners come from and Gingrich realizing where his money comes from. They don't have the same support base, so therein lies the source of the split within the GOP.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 7:09:13 AM

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Using fast reply.........

The biggest problem with the GOP is that they are completely out of touch with the greater percentile of their constituency. They've spent too much time pandering to the far right and big business.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 7:16:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

It's pretty obvious who leads the Democratic party now.

The GOP is in a unique state because they're out of power, and the Bushies were too unpopular to groom a successor. McCain is not viewed favorably, and Palin has too many negatives. Gingrich may have possibilities, although he's a blast from the past. Jindal just screwed himself with the speech but should be back to some degree.

In short, nobody's looking good for the job, but someone will show up and do it. I bet it'll be a governor.

And Limbaugh - come on. He'd never forsake his current job making large money for a run for office. He couldn't even handle the controversy of being a sports commentator. Plus, he appeals to the right wing of the GOP but has no support outside of it.

The real humor and joke in this whole thing is that these guys all have the same tired 'trickle down' arguments. Gingrich is the Paris Hilton of politics...famous only because he's famous and is nothing like the TR repub he claims to be. Palin is a political bimbo. Jindal is a superficial, patroninzing, condescending fool if he thinks any real traction resulted from his one speech after Obama's first address.

As for Limbaugh I kinda like watching this crew self-destruct. IF the GOP truly has to rely upon a radio talk show host and his partisan tripe...it will continue to shrink.

Clear Channel is nothing different than XM and Sirius radio did...borrowing millions to pay a single segment's host $400 million. It is possible he may not last for the whole contract. Do you think they will actually make a profit on this man...hardly. Ratings be damned...the advertising money isn't there any more than it is for the dying newspaper industry.

What I enjoy most about debating with liberals is the way they attack people with words like idiot, bimbo, superficial, patronizing, condescending fool, and worst of all "partisan tripe". Actually, tripe is good eating if cooked properly. Just boil it as you would say, a liberal, for 20 minutes...at the same time put one can of tomato and one can of tomato sauce into a pot with a little oil and an onion. Put the tripe into the sauce, don't over-cook, and cook for about 45 minutes. Great stuff and a real tasty sauce too! At least I'm trying to bring something to this silly conversation.

At some point it would be constructive if people would point to "specifics" that they disagree with that is more than just superficial stuff that you would expect in freshman polysci.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 7:18:24 AM

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And of course you've never ever used insulting terms to describe politicians you don't care for Cory............

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 7:28:02 AM

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Awww yyeah....!

It`s only going to get worse.Thank you god.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 7:30:23 AM

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The Audacity of FRAUD. NObama

All Show and No Substance. Obfuscating. Promise Breaking. Lying.

The spineless coward is NObama.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 7:44:29 AM

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It is a confusing time for the Republican Party...the Reagan magic is gone, and they find themselves in the same territory that the Democratic party found themselves after Jimmy Carter was defeated by Reagan. If the President and the party do not perform well, they will find their voice again and faster than even they could expect. I don't see Steele as a strong enough RNC Chairman to bring the party out of it's present state, it is only the Democratic party's mis-steps that could cause it to happen sooner. It is a strange place to be for a party to not have an heir apparent. To pander to the religious right at this time wouldn't be wise but if they don't have that uniform block they cannot win a general election on the national stage. It is what we saw with McCain, he needed to bring in the Religious ultra-conservatives to have a chance at victory but, in doing so he alienated those at the center of the party with his choice of Palin and also his moves within the campaign itself. Not being able to align yourself with the incumbent due to his lack of popularity, and not being far enough to the right on his own it caused some indecision by those who ran his campaign as to what tact to take. In the wake of their defeat they seem to have become unsure of themselves....and in my lifetime, aside from the Nixon debacle I don't remember a time that they have seemingly been such a mess. In politics however, everything is temporary, and if the Democrats cannot succeed the Republicans will find themselves back in the driver's seat and if the President and Congress can actually move the country in the right direction without the bi-partisan support of the Republicans, it could be a very long 8-12 years for those of the G.O.P.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 7:57:50 AM

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What I enjoy most about debating with liberals is the way they attack people with words like idiot, bimbo, superficial, patronizing, condescending fool, and worst of all "partisan tripe". Actually, tripe is good eating if cooked properly. Just boil it as you would say, a liberal, for 20 minutes...at the same time put one can of tomato and one can of tomato sauce into a pot with a little oil and an onion. Put the tripe into the sauce, don't over-cook, and cook for about 45 minutes. Great stuff and a real tasty sauce too! At least I'm trying to bring something to this silly conversation.

At some point it would be constructive if people would point to "specifics" that they disagree with that is more than just superficial stuff that you would expect in freshman polysci.

First project: I want part and parcel...details how it is you have painted me a liberal ? Could it be that by disagreeing...I am a liberal ?

Next, you do put a smile on my face and may use your recipe but...tripe: 2. Slang. something, esp. speech or writing, that is false or worthless; rubbish.
Palin would understand how I wouldn't know nearly as much about Alaska as say I would know about the moon and because...I can SEE the moon from here. The single most ridiculous selection and pandering by and of any, GOP VP running mate in their history. Jindal, whose only real exposure thus far is that rebuttal if one could call it that following Obama's address to congress the other night was exactly ALL of that. He talked down to me in a condescending tone, with superficialities about our 'historic' moment watching a man of African/American heritage addressing congress as POUS. I thought he was getting ready to sell me a car.
He and his celebrators ARE fools if they think he attained any real political traction with that rebuttal.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 8:27:27 AM

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Guys, even Republicans are admitting (some privately, some publicly) that their party fucked everything up. If the most visible exponent of your point of view can't say more than "I hope the president fails," it's a sign that your ideology is bankrupt. People tend not to give a fuck about ideology when they can't pay their mortgage. (And that's a problem Rush will never have to face.) No one should want to see the president fail. People's lives are at stake.

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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 8:34:51 AM

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It is so embarrassing… the grand old party reduced to sparing with a talk show host. My my how the mighty have fallen.

They can’t solve the problems of their own party and present a united face… yet they expect America to believe they alone have the answers to our economic problems.

They are on the brink if irrelevance…a side show in politics…the clowns of the American circus called congress. It is really quite sad.
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RE: Oh the horrors. The GOP is crumbling/infighting. - 3/9/2009 8:42:34 AM

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Using fast reply.........

The biggest problem with the GOP is that they are completely out of touch with the greater percentile of their constituency. They've spent too much time pandering to the far right and big business.

The biggest problem with both parties is that neither has learned that pandering to the fringes leaves you on the fringe eventually. This same kind of finger-pointing, name calling, suggestions of irrelevancy and out-of-touch politics abounded after Gore fell to Bush. We had 20 years of Republican presidents as opposed to 8 years of Democratic rule. And in the midst of that Democratic rule, Republicans over ran Congress.

It should sound familiar because the same thing happened to w. He came in with a Republican majority, and left the castle in shambles - much the way Clinton did with the Democrats. Seems like everytime someone wins too, people start talking about mandates. About 7 percent of the voting public put Obama in office. A smaller percentage put Bush back in office in 2004. Both sides saw it as vindication of their stance, of a reason to take the country along their charted course.

And mostly what it's been about is that the people who actually elect presidents, were sick and tired of the last person, the rhetoric, the in-fighting, the pandering to the fringe. It took Republicans 8 years to self-destruct, to go from owning 2 of the three branches that separate powers in this country to owning none. Democrats hadn't learned that lesson when Clinton took office. Republicans ignored it when they seized control.

All it will take to vindicate Bush's legacy for almost half the voters in this country is for a terrorist attack to occur stateside during Obama's watch. I don't want him to fail, especially in that regard. The thing many Bush supporters, and now Obama supporters can't seem to understand is that, it's not the person in office you have to really fear when they're attacking liberties and rights. It's those who come after. The first will bear the brunt of the criticism, but for all those who follow? They have the tools already in place. The usurpation of power and the loss of what once was has become status quo. It's easier to lay the next set of steps in politics when the one you're standing on was put there for you.

What should be happening in this country isn't for half to attack and half to defend who ever is in office. Every blasted person living here should be defending the Constitution first, and America next. Because without either, you have nothing but the word of a politician.

Good luck with that.

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