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overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:01:51 AM   
karit


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All i can say G/gentleman and L/ladies is wow.  i never dreamed i would have over fifteen combined pages of messages generated off of my profile page and opinions.  i will attempt to address a subject each week on the general discussion board.  i am really overwhelmed and humbled by the outpouring of compliments and praises from both Doms and Subs alike.  Again with all my respect and gratitude.   i certainly hope Y/you A/all buy my book too when it comes out lol. 
 
well the address of the day will be to this message that i received, it goes out to the submissives both male and female.  Because i want to remind all of you; you are not some prostitute to be picked up for a one day fling.you are also not a doormatt to be used when the girlfriend or wife is monotonous, tawdry, or on her monthly cycle. 
 
The individuals who are masquerading as Doms know who they are.  They are in relationships, vanilla ones, not honest with their submissives.  Then they cast them aside like used underclothing. Move on to the next conquest and forget they existed.  i dont mean to call individuals out on the "carpet" but it has been reported to me that certain Doms do this.  
 
In the last twenty-four hours despite my profile, i have had offers from three individuals on this site promising me sexy clothing, drinks and a hook up at a hotel for a night, and money, yes money.   Now an inteligent individual and a true Dom would read my profile and say, "Now heres a submissive that is intrigueing and intelligent but I need to be cautious on how i approach this one, better take things a bit slowly, test the water so to speak."  Not these three.Then again i did say true Dom.  i understand collarme protects identities and that is fine.  i would just like to put this notice out there to all of the submissives, male and female, as a reminder.  A respectful reminder to the Doms as well.
 
First, not only is it illegal to except monatary gifts for sexual acts, (in a court of law that would be termed either solicitation, or prostitution) it rather turns the D/s world into a debaucherous circus.  This is not what this site was intended for. 
 
Second, as per gifts from Doms, how long have you been seeing the Dom?  Is it excessive?  Is it a diamond ring on the first meet? Is it something that would mean; im going to stalk you the rest of my life?  Is it something that says, if you take this gift, you are indebted to me?  you need to think women and men of submissive nature.  The allure of clothing, dining, vactions, gifts, and whatever else maybe given, is all very tempting.  Keep in mind everything has a price, and are you willing to pay it.
 
Doms, please do not give submissives from this site money.  If they are asking for money they are not true submissives.  i am sure You already know this.  For the submissives that use You for gifts and a means to scam money, shame on them.  they take away the true nature of what submissives stand for.  Gifts should be given of free accord never asked for.  A true Dom cares for his submissive from the heart, and that is where the gifts should come from.  No matter if it is a new toy, or a dozen roses.  If it comes from the heart, its a keeper. 
 
The greatest gift can not be achieved from a one night stand.  At the end of it, Y/you are left alone and empty.  Just as Y/you were before.  A real relationship in this lifestyle takes time to build like any other.  Be wary of the individuals who want to be exclusive after one meet.  Hopefully Y/you enter into a long term relationship. Y/you are lucky enough to find a perfect fit.  Then Y/you will recieve the greatest gift Y/you could ever give to one another, your unconditional love and devotion.  
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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:05:21 AM   
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You're new. You also have a picture. These two things are the reason behind probably 14.5 pages of messages you recieved.

Also, thank you so kindly on your worldly views of sex workers, money, and the one twue way.


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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:14:38 AM   
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I'm sorry but did I read this right?

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i am a submissive. i am new at this, but i will be very good someday at serving, i want true training though, not just physical playtime, but real training.


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my book to represent the true D/s relationships and the lifestyle in a way that will educate.    


Are you really brand new AND writing a book to educate people what "true" D/s relationships are??? (I do hope that it won't be written in that silly slashy speak that screams "I have no real time experience".)

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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:15:56 AM   
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I think my brain is now bleeding.

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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:16:06 AM   
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You are new.  It means you are the new list.  It means you get more post.
The photograph you have on your profile is also there to promote and reel in responses.  It is provocative.  Another reason why you are probably attracting who you are.  You just have to deal with that if you want to put out such an image (which is very lovely btw).
For some people, they dig giving money.  It is their thing.  If it's not yours, then don't do it.  But it isn't solicitation if there is no sex involved.  Pro dom and subs don't have sex for money.  They are paid for a service.  Or tributed.  That is a big difference.
Ditch the true and real mantra.  What is true and real for you, is fantasy for another.  For example - slash typing.  You will find it is usually only common in online relationships and that the majority find it pretty false and fake.  But does that make you untrue?  In your eyes I would hazzard a guess, not.  But for others reading this, it would be an absolute.
This isn't a new posting.  It's repeated here pretty much weekly, sometimes daily.  You are young, new blood that appears on a kink site.  It happens, and people post about the negativity all the time.  Just using the search function for 'mail' or 'true' or 'real' and you will get pages of articles.
 
End of the day, it's simply a relationship search and you find people who are compatable.  You use your own common sense or be prepared to accept that you own actions have a responsibility for any outcome you may endure.

 
Just an edit to add.  That there are some great books out here now on Ds and BDSM - John Warren, Jay Wiseman etc and some excellent blogs all over the net.  If you want any info, google the names or check them out on amazon and they all come up, along with a miriad of other great titles.  If you cannot find them, feel free to cmail us.

 
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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:18:40 AM   
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Have fun of your one twue wayism, and ask me next time you want to speak for all of us, for I disagree with much of what you say.

One night stands and play sessions have their purpose and they are highly enjoyable for those of us who wish to participate.  Not everyone is looking for "The one" to sweep them off their feet and who will be eternally gratefully for that submissive "gift"

Gift giving is between the giver and the reciever, it is none of your business how others choose to persue their pleasure.

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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:19:20 AM   
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Nice try, but there is no one right way to be kinky and Dominant, you don't have to love the one you're dominating, nor do you have to care about them to be "true" There are quite a few relationships where emotions don't enter into it and they're very happy that way..  And I wouldn't buy a book from a newbie with no experience, any more than I'd buy a cook book written from someone who can't cook and has no clue about how to cook.


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ORIGINAL: karit
   i certainly hope Y/you A/all buy my book too when it comes out lol. 


  A true Dom cares for his submissive from the heart, and that is where the gifts should come from.  No matter if it is a new toy, or a dozen roses.  If it comes from the heart, its a keeper. 
 


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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:33:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: karit

All i can say G/gentleman and L/ladies is wow.  i never dreamed i would have over fifteen combined pages of messages generated off of my profile page and opinions.  i will attempt to address a subject each week on the general discussion board.  i am really overwhelmed and humbled by the outpouring of compliments and praises from both Doms and Subs alike.  Again with all my respect and gratitude.   i certainly hope Y/you A/all buy my book too when it comes out lol. 

 
So this is a book promo?

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well the address of the day will be to this message that i received, it goes out to the submissives both male and female.  Because i want to remind all of you; you are not some prostitute to be picked up for a one day fling.you are also not a doormatt to be used when the girlfriend or wife is monotonous, tawdry, or on her monthly cycle. 


What if that is what they want? What about poly?

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The individuals who are masquerading as Doms know who they are.  They are in relationships, vanilla ones, not honest with their submissives.  Then they cast them aside like used underclothing. Move on to the next conquest and forget they existed.  i dont mean to call individuals out on the "carpet" but it has been reported to me that certain Doms do this.  

 
Honesty is a problem throughout the human race, so there would be people masquerading as humans? Of course some people lie, and people need to develope good instincts for that. There are many topics that address how to best check out a potential whatever.

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In the last twenty-four hours despite my profile, i have had offers from three individuals on this site promising me sexy clothing, drinks and a hook up at a hotel for a night, and money, yes money.   Now an inteligent individual and a true Dom would read my profile and say, "Now heres a submissive that is intrigueing and intelligent but I need to be cautious on how i approach this one, better take things a bit slowly, test the water so to speak."  Not these three.Then again i did say true Dom.  i understand collarme protects identities and that is fine.  i would just like to put this notice out there to all of the submissives, male and female, as a reminder.  A respectful reminder to the Doms as well.

 
Yeah it has happened to you, along with thousands of others. Part of websites like this. Your message does nothing really, other than inflate your sense of self importance.
 

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First, not only is it illegal to except monatary gifts for sexual acts, (in a court of law that would be termed either solicitation, or prostitution) it rather turns the D/s world into a debaucherous circus.  This is not what this site was intended for. 

 
Yeah that is covered under their TOS and guidelines. You have contributed nothing new.

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Doms, please do not give submissives from this site money.  If they are asking for money they are not true submissives.  i am sure You already know this.  For the submissives that use You for gifts and a means to scam money, shame on them.  they take away the true nature of what submissives stand for.  Gifts should be given of free accord never asked for.  A true Dom cares for his submissive from the heart, and that is where the gifts should come from.  No matter if it is a new toy, or a dozen roses.  If it comes from the heart, its a keeper. 

 
Uhhhh anyone that does not already realize this is going to be so naive that your little warning is not going to do anything. Again it seems the point is to pump up your self importance.

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The greatest gift can not be achieved from a one night stand.  At the end of it, Y/you are left alone and empty.  Just as Y/you were before.  A real relationship in this lifestyle takes time to build like any other.  Be wary of the individuals who want to be exclusive after one meet.  Hopefully Y/you enter into a long term relationship. Y/you are lucky enough to find a perfect fit.  Then Y/you will recieve the greatest gift Y/you could ever give to one another, your unconditional love and devotion.  



Some people may like a one night stand, may be looking for a one night stand, or the occasional play partner.

Your post comes across as the "one twue way", and I am not impressed. Nothing new in your post and if you only got 15 pages of emails in the first day, you are way behind some that have put up profiles here.

You have a lot to learn. Try reading through the archives and pay attention to some of the posters here that have some great stuff to read. You will learn that there are many, many ways to live life and there is no "one twue way". Basically if it works for you go for it. If it did not work, be introspective and accept the things you can work on in yourself and idetify the things you do not like in others. Then use the information the next time.

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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:36:43 AM   
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my submission, or, in my case, slavery, isnt a gift.  its surrendered to the man who can recognize it, polish it, utilize it to its fullest potential.  it is his for the taking, if he finds that key. 

i peeked at your profile.  i am a slut.  i take pride in that, trained to be so, and delight when a man reconizes that and knows how to explore that side of me to the fullest.  that does not mean i am a whore... however... i will be his whore ~grins~

respect?  i get respect at my jobs, from my family, from my peers... i dont need respect from the man in my life.  i need his dominance, his guidance, his lust.  and if he weild a flogger or cane.. so much better!

10 %?  and the rest are just here for hook ups?  awfully presumptive of you!  who made you the leading authority on submission?  as far as no opinions... my god woman.. read the threads.  you will find some of the most opinionated women in the world right here!  me included.. lol

as far as what i am searchin for on this site.  guess what toots.  i found him.. in spades.  many here meet off line.  sometimes it works.. sometimes it doesnt.  many relationships started here are successful.  if you do as much research for your book as you have on this site... burn it.  and i have a damn nice set ot tits and i enjoy it anyway he wants to give it to me.  just because he may say those things... or she.. doesnt make them an automatic troll.  some of the men i know, respect and adore call me slut, and proposition me often (lol.. usually in jest)

uh, dear heart, as far as your book... "screw the thorns" comes to mind.  your attitude needs to change before you can ever hope to top that book.

suddenly, i get the impression her book isnt really about D/s, but, possibly this forum.  time will tell.  but.. karit... you have posted a whole lot of assumptions about many people you know nothing about.  may wanna rethink that position.

good luck to you, your gonna need it









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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:39:09 AM   
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Well....I will add some more to the above list.
 
1.  You can have your ideas and your "real" mantra but when you try to speak for me, capitalize the word I.  It is proper grammar. 
 
2. Don't speak for me.  I do a damn good job of speaking on my own behalf.  
 
3. Finally. you can cut the upper/lower case shit cause they only do that online.... where I am sure you think you will learn it all  
G/gentleman and L/ladies 

I also hope your balloon has been popped.
 
 

i am new at this, but i will be very good someday at serving, i want true training though, not just physical playtime, but real training.  i respect myself and expect no less from anyone that im with.  i am far too intelligent to allow myself to be mistreated, and i do need to get to work on my book to represent the true D/s relationships and the lifestyle in a way that will educate. 

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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:44:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: karit
First, not only is it illegal to except monatary gifts for sexual acts, (in a court of law that would be termed either solicitation, or prostitution) it rather turns the D/s world into a debaucherous circus.  This is not what this site was intended for. 

Maybe half the women I've dated off this site (and Alt) have some form of sex work in their past.  A former stripper who now has a two masters degrees.  A former prodomme who is defending her dissertation in five weeks.  A former fetish model who has an undergraduate degree from a top business school.  There are others, too, but I hope you get the point, karit.  They all have more education -- and more brains -- than you appear to.

Please feel free to take your moralistic holier-than-thou attitude, and use it to correspond with your 14 pages of trollmail.  I know people who have gotten married because of this site, and I'm impressed with in-person relationships, not the size of your inbox.


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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:55:21 AM   
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Please, enlighten me.  How do you purport to know SO much about being a submissive without ever serving and being new?  I can't even begin with where I think you're way off base.  My advice: skip the manual-reading, one-true-wayisms .. and get on with living and feeling and experiencing - and reevaluate a few years down the road.   Hell, I read a book about flying a plane ... wanna take a ride with me this weekend? 

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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:56:20 AM   
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You are kidding with this post, right?  I mean, surely someone with no experience...or little...is not going to try and educate submissives/dominants who have been out there learning and doing, are they?  As for you teaching other new submissives, pray tell me...have you ever heard the phrase "the blind leading the blind"?

Perhaps you feel that you have some experience and knowledge about romantic relationships and/or sexual relationships without romance.  That's a good thing...bring that experience to the board and hope that others may learn from it.  But there again, unless you are a certified relationship expert...and given the intelligence of many here on the board...most will take that advice with a grain of salt and if it applies to them, they will use it.  If it does not, they will either modify it or toss it.

There are plenty of relationships on here that do not involve love.  They are committed D/s dynamics in some cases in which romance does not come into the picture.  Are they wrong?  Is the submissive/dominant being used if they have both consented to a dynamic that does not involve romance?  And where does your view leave those D/s dynamics in which there is a 3rd...or a 4th?  How does your view fit with those of us dominants who think that sometimes, that same submissive we care about (note I said care, not love...the two do not necessarily mean the same) is there for our pleasure alone and that 'tis O.K. to sometimes remind her of that?  How does your view measure up to what I have to say on my profile...or Simply Michael's...or Knight's...or Merc's...or SilverMark's...or Lockit's...or CatdeMedici's and what we have to say about domination and submission?  My views vary from Knight's...does that make him the "twue" dominant or is it me?  My views vary somewhat from Bossy Shoe Bitch...does that make her the "twue" dominant or is it me?

Like any other relationship/dynamic you are considering entering into, one of the first things you might consider is the PERSON...their thought process, their hopes, their goals, their wants and needs...and how well they fit your own.  Just because they do not does not automatically make them wrong and you right.  I've been with 3 long-term submissives;  each were similar to the other in many ways but each were also different.  What I need and want from a submissive has changed in the last 10 years.  I know for a fact that my first submissive would have to do a ton more work to make me happy now.  Does that mean she is not submissive?  No, it means that unless she is willing to do the new things that would make me happy she is not the submissive for ME on a long-term basis.

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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 11:58:27 AM   
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well said, as per the norm, CD!

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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 12:10:17 PM   
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Ok folks, move along.

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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 12:14:51 PM   
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I've got a lil hint for the op...

Set up a new profile... then sit and wait.  All those that wrote to you will write again!  Same one's all the time.  Then in about six months if that long... they will forget they wrote to you and write again.  You aren't getting the cream of the crop... they tend to wait until you are not new becasue they know you are being bombarded, but they are the cream of the new lister's and all they want is cream.

Now.. back to the scary pussy thread for me!

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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 12:23:47 PM   
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Where there's a karit there surely must be a wabbit.

i think others have put you straight about the avalanche of mail that a newbie to the site gets, especially a newbie to kink too, it happens to most if not all when they first appear on the new members listing. i doubt you will be so happy at being approached on a daily basis by inappropriate advances from people who haven't even read your profile, other than to gather you might be female and breathing.

i am afraid i won't be buying your book, i prefer to learn from life as well as from folks who have been around the block a bit and have their feet firmly planted in reality. personally i would concentrate on learning your way through the kink minefield, what presses the buttons that engender the wrong responses, both to personal contacts and forum posts, and take things a step at a time.

Tw00ness is one of those things that gets kicked from pillar to post, seen as a sign of arrogance or pretension, naivete at the very least, and if you want to communicate with real people then i would lose the yen to use such language. Read more, post later, see the way the place works and the commonality of language that prevails. Then i would say write your book, not as an authority, you will only get laughed at, but more as a narrative of someone setting out on the latest and possiblty greatest journey of your life, warts and all.

i wish you luck, especially in finding the path that saves you from all shades of ribbing and ridicule.




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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 12:39:42 PM   
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karit, welcome.  I'm glad that you are enjoying the attention that you are getting.  You have now had a taste of posting on the boards.  No matter how strongly you feel about something and how careful you are in your wording you are opening yourself up to being attacked. 

What may work for the majority of people will not work for all.  Most people choose the lifestyle because they feel that they don't fit the societal norm.  That means that this is an incredibly diverse group of people and there will be few norms even within this group.  While some find great excitement in one night stands others can't bear the thought of it.  That's just one example.

I enjoyed your post very much.  It shows that you put thought into it, truly care for others, and want to be helpful.  Just don't be hurt when you find that your attempts are not always met with kindness.  There is no one true way to live the lifestyle.  The best, of course, is when it meets the needs of all parties involved but there are some whose kink is not getting their needs met so even that generalization is unfair.  I've taken on the "live and let live" frame of mind when it comes to what fulfills different people, and am careful not to show off what is fulfilling to me as being the standard for anyone BUT me.  I used to teach from my journal when I still had an active account on CM.  That might work better for you than posting here.


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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 12:41:03 PM   
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bless your heart


The Dark, there is truth in what you say about the photo, and OP this might burst your bubble a bit as well.  but this photo over here IS my primary profile photo and i still get emails asking if i am looking for a Master or "come to me on your knees" is always a hot one.


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RE: overwhelming response and request to thread - 3/10/2009 12:46:08 PM   
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yep yep yep. Not only that but when I first came here under a different name and new and not attached? I think I had the same list of male dom "friends" as she does. . Apparently the same old sharks circle the new meat over and over. Too funny.

OP, that was the most entertaining without meaning to be post I have ever read here,  thanks. If all it takes is a dozen pages of Cmail to write a book? I think I am due for writing War in Peace. As are all of the other ladies here that were new once. Enjoy it but for god's sake don't take it seriously. Wait a month, put up a new profile, different name and pic,  and start over, it'll be exactly the same scenario. Guaranteed.  

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

I've got a lil hint for the op...

Set up a new profile... then sit and wait.  All those that wrote to you will write again!  Same one's all the time.  Then in about six months if that long... they will forget they wrote to you and write again.  You aren't getting the cream of the crop... they tend to wait until you are not new becasue they know you are being bombarded, but they are the cream of the new lister's and all they want is cream.

Now.. back to the scary pussy thread for me!


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As long as people will shed the blood of innocent creatures there can be no peace, no liberty, no harmony between people. Slaughter and justice cannot dwell together.
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