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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/20/2009 10:44:35 AM   
ElanSubdued


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RedMagic1,

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Well, I'll say it.  The OP's profile looks as though it was written by a horny guy.  Whether it was or not, I have no idea, but the profile as written is more likely to attract fantasists than relationship-seekers, since it deals exclusively with the realization of fantasies.


Gee Red, for a while there, I thought I was the only one who noticed this.  I certainly didn't mean to be unkind to or inappropriately judgmental of the OP.  Thanks for posting a similar, independent viewpoint.  After reading your post, I feel a little less like the one-person-out.

*cue group think music now* :-)

Elan.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/20/2009 11:02:06 AM   
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120 pounds... with that picture... 36b... I doubt it.  The b might be right... but even I, shorter and bigger than a b wear a 34.  I dare say I am thicker... I don't believe it for a moment.  I may be wrong... but...  I just don't see it.  I didn't get to a 36 until I was far heavier.  I will eat crow if I am wrong... but I just don't see it unless someone is wearing a very lose bra.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/20/2009 11:39:58 AM   
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CocoaKeyHolder,

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Call me shallow, but I am not interested in repairing either someone's personality or their credit.  I am not willing to risk what I have established for My family for someone who (A) is in deep debt, (B) sees Me as the gravy train (C) someone who has repeatedly made foolish major financial or life decisions.


You're making a lot of assumptions here.

There are many reasons people experience debt.  Those who have started their own businesses, been involved in the stock market, had a mortgage where the rate suddenly increased drastically, or, for that matter, gone through a nasty divorce can attest to how quickly money sometimes comes and goes.  I've been involved with a few startup companies that, despite making the best decisions they could, went from millions to nothing in the short course of a few years.  You're assuming that someone who has debt is foolish and sees you as a gravy train.  This isn't necessarily the case.

The world economy (and especially the American economy) is going through a big correction presently.  You're no doubt aware of the billions of dollars of tax payer money that your government is using to support private institutions so they don't go belly up.  In the personal arena, anyone who has investments has been hugely effected too.  Have you looked at the price of a barrel of crude oil lately?  In case you haven't, it has dropped roughly two thirds in value.  This has has impacted anyone with investments in oil and gas (and this includes mutual and diversified funds where the investors may not have realized the portions of their portfolios that would be effected).

As to "personality issues", I'm going to take this a little off track and transmogrify the phrase into "mental health issues".  Yes, there is a somewhat large difference between a personality issue and, for example, clinical depression (and hence, my use of the word "transmogrify".)  Still, let's go there.

I've yet to meet anyone, male or female, who hasn't experienced some kind of extended blues (stress, depression, etc.) at some point in their life.  Does this make them (to keep your financial focus) a liability to you?  What about yourself?  I can almost guarantee you'll experience a point in your life where you need help and support from your partner and/or family and friends.  This makes *you* a liability waiting to happen.  I suppose you could mitigate this by having a separate trust account set up in your partner's name.  Because, after all, when you need help, your partner certainly won't want to worry that you might affect his finances or quality of life.  You'll be paying for the children you're having with the bull too, right?  Everything being so balance sheet-ish and all.  Your dream.  You pay.

Just for perspective, by far the worst relationship I ever had was with someone who was as equally wealthy as I.  We both made sure our finances were in order.  We each paid 50/50 for everything.  And you know what?  We were miserable because so much of the rest of our relationship, the parts not involving money, was out of sync.

Elan.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/20/2009 11:44:08 AM   
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Lockit,

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20 pounds... with that picture... 36b... I doubt it.  The b might be right... but even I, shorter and bigger than a b wear a 34.   I dare say I am thicker... I don't believe it for a moment.  I may be wrong... but...  I just don't see it.  I didn't get to a 36 until I was far heavier.  I will eat crow if I am wrong... but I just don't see it unless someone is wearing a very lose bra.


Yep.  You may be right on the money here.  (Hee hee hee hee hee! :-)  I'm beginning to think the OP is a troll.  Silly me for taking the bait.  Read the OP's journal entries (twenty-seven years old, speaks nine languages, has traveled to *every* English speaking country, owns a home, manages a division of the company she works for, been on Collar Me only a few weeks but already found the cuckolf of her dreams, yada, yada, yada) and things become even more implausible.  If all of this is true, Cocoa is an extraordinaily accomplished woman at a very young age.

Elan.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/20/2009 2:41:58 PM   
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I wish littlesarbonn could come home soon too, because aside from the thoughtful posts he always makes, he's a good boy.  He tried to do a lovely favor for me, simply becuase i asked him for it.  I really like him!

But I also can relate to his frustration on posts becuase I have often seen him say something worthwhile and the rest of the thread ends up in flirting, or other fluff and his points are never acknowledged or noted by the posters.  What he doesn't realize is how many read his words and feel--wow great, apprecoate the insight and don't see a need to get into the thread to compliment him. Hence he doesn't know how many people really do appreciate his posts.

As long as I crashed in to make that comment, might as well drop a few words on the OP while here.  Making lists of "what I need" ahead of time.. vanilla or kink partnerwise...cuts out a significant number of interesting potentials.  When you like someone, have spent time getting acquainted with him/her and enjoy/look foward to their mail, phone calls or visits--then you can total up that persons pros and cons and see how they match to you.

The current economy has put some people into very screwed positions no matter how hard-working or careful they may have been. It's not a great time to be judging anyone by their financial security.  Someone who looks great today could be in bad straits tomorrow.

Look to the person first and all your lists of must-haves (cream pies? non-negotiable.. huh?)
might suddenly dissolve in the light of a wonderful sub.  And I will drag in sarbonn at this point--he maybe sitting in Korea, he doesn't impress me as a financially successful person right now tho he has his head above water--but he sure is someone I'd like to know in person.  I don't think he fits into your "lists".. too bad.  But I suppose it's one less domme to worry about competing for his attention when he finally gets home.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/20/2009 7:49:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

Lockit,

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20 pounds... with that picture... 36b... I doubt it.  The b might be right... but even I, shorter and bigger than a b wear a 34.   I dare say I am thicker... I don't believe it for a moment.  I may be wrong... but...  I just don't see it.  I didn't get to a 36 until I was far heavier.  I will eat crow if I am wrong... but I just don't see it unless someone is wearing a very lose bra.


Yep.  You may be right on the money here.  (Hee hee hee hee hee! :-)  I'm beginning to think the OP is a troll.  Silly me for taking the bait.  Read the OP's journal entries (twenty-seven years old, speaks nine languages, has traveled to *every* English speaking country, owns a home, manages a division of the company she works for, been on Collar Me only a few weeks but already found the cuckolf of her dreams, yada, yada, yada) and things become even more implausible.  If all of this is true, Cocoa is an extraordinaily accomplished woman at a very young age.

Elan.


Even so, one thing I always think about when responding to a thread is whether or not my response might be useful to anyone also reading the thread (as well as to the OP). My spidey senses were tingling when I first read the OP's post, but at the same time, I thought it was a unique place to present some information that I thought might be helpful to someone else who might be reading the thread and ACTUALLY be thinking something along the same lines but was less inclined to share it but is now curious because someone else did. We always run the risk that an OP is just pulling everyone's leg in hopes of gaining attention. I often watch to see who the OPs respond to in each thread, because as an investigator, that ALSO gives me more informaiton than I had at the beginning.

An example is when someone posts that he is interested in information about relationships. And as this has happened to me a lot, I notice it more than others, most likely. But I'll post a response, and then I discover the guy ONLY responds to the women he perceives are hot and then his responses are usually "requests" for more information. Says a lot about the person who figures no one is in on his ulterior motives.

At the same time, I wanted to thank everyone who has actually addressed me in this thread as that was very kind of all of you. By the way, I'm not in the military (someone thought I might be in the military because I'm in Korea). I came here as a civilian this time. I followed my two stuffed animals (a frog and a penguin) who wanted to see Korea for the first time.


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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/20/2009 9:13:22 PM   
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The profile states:
 
"I know what I want and how to get it and I get no matter what the cost."
 
These seem to be the words of someone who would throw good money after bad because of principles (hurt feelings), and is a major red flag.  For example, someone who would perhaps spend more on legal fees than the amount they expect to collect, just to teach the other litigant a lesson.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/21/2009 8:13:10 AM   
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I dunno, Lockit, I was a 36B when I was 120...  I just have a large frame! 

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/21/2009 9:56:19 AM   
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She doesn't.  lol... look at the picture.  That's what clued me off.  I am 120... shorter... and thicker and still wear a 34 comfortably.  Now.. if I am wrong... I will have to eat crow... how I do that I am not sure at the moment, but... I don't believe it with all the other things... the picture... and well... some of what she says.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/21/2009 12:03:54 PM   
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littlesarbonn,

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My spidey senses were tingling when I first read the OP's post, but at the same time, I thought it was a unique place to present some information that I thought might be helpful to someone else who might be reading the thread and ACTUALLY be thinking something along the same lines...


I'm glad you posted.  Your response gave a very sensible, well reasoned approach as to how someone might find a compatible partner without falling into the "demographics trap" one often does when putting their more self-focused wish list out front.

quote:

We always run the risk that an OP is just pulling everyone's leg in hopes of gaining attention.  I often watch to see who the OPs respond to in each thread, because as an investigator, that ALSO gives me more information than I had at the beginning.  An example is when someone posts that he is interested in information about relationships.  And as this has happened to me a lot, I notice it more than others, most likely.  But I'll post a response, and then I discover the guy ONLY responds to the women he perceives are hot and then his responses are usually "requests" for more information.  Says a lot about the person who figures no one is on to his ulterior motives.


Agreed.  I find it interesting that in this thread, for example, instead of participating, the OP posted a journal entry disputing the advice given and questioning those who would doubt her validity.  It's also curious (if not convenient) that she makes no mention of this thread.    Likewise, as I noted above, you gave some seriously good, well balanced advice and yet the OP didn't reply or make comment.  Perhaps she is busy, but she wasn't so busy as to prevent her from posting a couple pages in her journal refuting her detractors.  Minimally, it would seem the OP doesn't want the advice she came asking for.

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By the way, I'm not in the military (someone thought I might be in the military because I'm in Korea).  I came here as a civilian this time.  I followed my two stuffed animals (a frog and a penguin) who wanted to see Korea for the first time.


That was me who made this mistake.  Thanks for clarifying and replying (to us all).  I hope you're having a great time. :-)

Elan.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/21/2009 1:20:37 PM   
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I honestly don't check profiles before responding to a seemingly straight-forward OP; it's not as if these questions about money, finances and material/career success are not an issue for "real" people. A lot of female dominants seem to have impossible and paradoxical expectations of their potential partners: for example, that you're going to find someone who has a combination of weirdly idealized but almost mutually exclusive qualities.

"The Perfect Submissive" for some of these gals is:

Extremely Successful in Career--but also able to relocate to another state or country at the drop of a hat. Financially and Materially Secure--but lacking any property or investments that keep him tied to a specific company or a long-term mortgage. Middle-Aged, Socially Skilled and Attractive--but also childless, unattached, and completely lacking baggage of any emotional or financial kind from previous relationships. Closeted, Vanilla and even Dominant in the outside world--but completely open, kinky, and unreservedly submissive in his personal relationship with one (and ONLY ONE!) dominant woman.

Seems to me that I hear a lot of this stuff a lot. From a lot of women who seem to spend a lot of time alone. It's true of people of any sex and orientation, really: as long as you keep looking for a "Package", you're never going to find a real person.


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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/21/2009 1:29:34 PM   
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Everyone,

Yes, I know I've said my bit and there's really no reason for me to add more.  However, this is my guilty pleasure before getting to the exciting chore of scrubbing my floors!  Yes, it's house cleaning day and I'm momentarily procrastinating. :-)

quote:

CocoaKeyHolder in her journal:
Just for the record:

I keep getting asked this question and I am already tired of typing it so here it is.

MY FIRST CREAMPIE

I was 19.  I was in a vanilla relationship with a boxer.  There were times when we couldn't have sex because he was training and at first it was ok.  I was super busy with school and work and parties.  I liked him but I didn't LOVE him.  After about 9 months of being together I decided that I needed someone on the side.  He had always said if I got horny just please get with a girl.  He had made me mad because he didn't want me to go to one of his fights in his hometown and that sent a red flag.  I got to thinking that maybe he was still in love with his ex.  So I stayed behind.

I decided to go out to the bar with my lab partner Rod (seriously, that was his name).  We danced and got smashed.  I started blabbing about y problems.  He told me I was over reacting.  It was probably nothing.  Well, as the weeks went by we started hanging out more and more.  About this time my boyfriend was just being recruited to the US team for boxing.  He was going to be away for a long time and I hadn't decided if I wanted a long distance relationship.

One weekend he went home to his parents' house.  I called over there and his ex picked up the phone.  This sent me into a rage.  I called Rod over and vented.  We got drunk, actually he got drunk, I had poured my vodka out and replaced it with water while I had him drinking jose cuervo.  I seduced him.  He was a good fuck.  We must have had sex for at least three hours in every way possible.  He was so smashed he couldn't drive home.  I knew I would have to get him out of there early because my boyfriend would be home around 10:30a.

So I let Rod sleep.  As he was sleeping, an evil thought crept into my mind.  Had I been sucking my boyfriend's dick after he had sex with his ex?  Rubber or no rubber that's still just fucked up.  Well, I would show him.

It was about 8:45a the next morning and I woke Rod up with a good blowjob.  After he was "up"  I rode hard and fast.  Then I got him to get me doggystyle.  Then missionary.  It was almost 10:15.  I talked real dirty and grab his cock.  I ripped off the rubber and shoved his dick back inside of me.  He got about three more strokes out and when I felt him cum I pushed his ass so his cum would get in my pussy nice and deep.

I pretended to freak out and told him my boyfriend would be here any minute.  After I heard the door close, I changed the sheets.  Washed my face and brushed my teeth all while holding this massive load in pussy.  I placed a towel underneath my ass and laid back down.  As was tradition after being gone, my boyfriend would come home and lick my pussy to wake me up.  Now I cum like a guy.  Meaning I squirt and it's bright white and creamy.  But not all the time.  Sometimes it is clear and runny.  But I cum.  This time I decided not to pretend like I was sleep.  He began spreading my legs and licking my pussy and I peeked down at him underneath the covers.  He smiled.  I smiled bigger.  I asked him if I could ride his face.  He obliged.  You better believe I pushed that load straight down his throat and he ate as if it were mine.  I got the biggest best orgasm after I saw another man's cum go down his throat and there began my quest to make a man knowingly eat another man's cum from my pussy.


There are many curiosities in this entry.  A few are:

- The OP is looking to build a trusting, lifelong relationship that includes marriage.  And yet, she's just described herself as untrustworthy, vengeful, and deceitful.  That's quite an oxymoron.

- Are we actually to believe the OP carried around a load of semen inside her pussy and didn't spill any (or most of it) while cleaning up herself and the bedroom?  That's mighty impressive muscle control.  It seems vengeance is far more effective than Kegal exercises.

- Allowing for some variances, none-the-less, pussy juice smells and tastes like pussy juice, and semen smells and tastes like semen.  Their ain't no mistaking one for the other, even when the two are mixed together in a frothy cocktail.  It's very unlikely the OP's boyfriend wouldn't notice another man's freshly dispensed cum inside her, especially while going down on her orally.

- Nowhere does the OP confirm that the boyfriend actually cheated on her.

- How many ex girlfriends do you know that answer the phone of their ex boyfriend's parents - especially when cheating on the new girlfriend?  Pardon the pun, but this doesn't have a truthful ring to it.

- The OP's grammar leaves quite a bit to be desired - not as bad as some I've seen, however, she claims to be a medium to high level manager, to have studied languages extensively, and to have traveled extensively.  It's not likely her grammar skills would be lacking.

- In actuality, this story sounds like cheesy porn-fiction and it probably is.


Assuming we believe this story, put it all together and you get... a predator who lacks communication skills, lies, cheats, and put her boyfriend at risk of contacting sexual diseases.  Oh, and the piece de resistance is... the OP lacks the sense not to post this in a public journal on the Internet (which also happens to be her dating profile to boot).  Yep.  Just the kind of woman every man wants to marry.

Alright.  I'm off to clean my floors.  I wish everyone a good day.

Elan.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/21/2009 1:41:05 PM   
ElanSubdued


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ShaktiSama,

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A lot of female dominants seem to have impossible and paradoxical expectations of their potential partners:  for example, that you're going to find someone who has a combination of weirdly idealized but almost mutually exclusive qualities.

"The Perfect Submissive" for some of these gals is:

Extremely Successful in Career -- but also able to relocate to another state or country at the drop of a hat.  Financially and Materially Secure -- but lacking any property or investments that keep him tied to a specific company or a long-term mortgage.  Middle-Aged, Socially Skilled and Attractive -- but also childless, unattached, and completely lacking baggage of any emotional or financial kind from previous relationships.  Closeted, Vanilla and even Dominant in the outside world -- but completely open, kinky, and unreservedly submissive in his personal relationship with one (and ONLY ONE!) dominant woman.


Isn't this the truth!  I'd never really thought about this, but, given these specifications and the state of the economy, excepting the "childless" requirement, perhaps there is about to be an influx of available, perfect submissive men.  (i.e. men who are financially and materially secure, successful in their careers, etc., but who now, because of devalued investments and corporate downsizing and reorganization, are suddenly free to move around.)

quote:

Seems to me that I hear a lot of this stuff a lot.  From a lot of women who seem to spend a lot of time alone.  It's true of people of any sex and orientation, really:  as long as you keep looking for a "Package", you're never going to find a real person.


Ding.  And the "Mistress Shakti" hits another home run. :-)

Elan.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/22/2009 12:37:47 PM   
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Cat de Medici:

Well said.  I think too often -- vanilla or non-vanilla -- people "settle for".  BUT who wants a loser with their emotions, psyche, AND fiances in poor shape.  While there are exceptions financially, if there is a history of poor financial judgment, it usually isn't going to suddenly change, the pattern is set, same for maturity level, psychological stability, etc etc.  Certainly there's a place for outright passion and hunger, however, any self-respecting Domme/Dom ought to want the best sub/slave they can have and that covers in all areas...our training of them is for whole other areas.  Just my four cents worth (I tip heavily) LOL

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/22/2009 4:26:12 PM   
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Cocoa,

Given that I've roasted you supremely in this thread, it's not likely you'll accept my advice.  Still, assuming you actually are who you say you are, I'll pass this on.  Here's an example of a profile where the author expresses what she's looking for without falling into the "laundry list" trap.  Somehow she expresses herself in a way that is authentic and inviting, while still being very clear about her criteria.  Instead of focusing too keenly on any one thing, she keeps the door open.  I'd say this woman would get just about any genuine, submissive man's attention, and certainly those in the "accomplished" sub-group you're looking for.

strangedesire
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Elan.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/24/2009 8:07:32 AM   
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Not true, oh eloquent sub.  Not true. 

I am quite certain that I am not the only Domme here who considers your posts to be one of the highlights of this little blog and who holds your contributions in high regard.

TexasMaam

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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

.............Well, those are my thoughts, although I've begun to suspect that for some reason people really don't care what a submissive has to say anymore, as most of my posts seem to get ignored so someone can focus on a one liner some domme might have said.



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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/24/2009 8:24:33 AM   
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Bah, that littlesarbonn knows nothing. Not like me.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/24/2009 9:00:00 AM   
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Realtuffdom is a genius with the most beautiful cock ever.

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/24/2009 1:54:41 PM   
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Those requirements should be both for vanilla and lifers.   Nothing wrong with wanting a credit score.  Demand a criminal background check and good credit score.  The two of them can tell you most of what you need to know.
 
Best Wishes,
 
MJ

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RE: From one Domme to Another - 3/24/2009 2:13:09 PM   
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I was thinking that a good portion of this thread is somewhat well, shortsighted as people who have made the "right" choices in most areas of financial planning, are now broke and.or homeless. The current economy being as unforgiving as it has been has rendered many people "unqualified" by the standards many are stating here. :)

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