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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 4:57:56 AM

Dougislooking

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Yes I must confess that my state of mind changes after I've released, but that doesn't mean that I stop being submissive, which is what I think stephykate was trying to say. Just like in his little tale of performing the special task, I've felt great excitement about an a task that was to be performed after a release, but after the release was granted there isn't that excitement anymore and in fact there may be some feeling of not wanting to do the task. However I think this is where your true submissive feelings or desires kick in, and shows what you are made of. I'm sure stephykate wasn't thrilled with having to pull those messy plastic pants on over his head, even though the excitement to complete the task had been building for days, but he did it because he was commited to doing so. I know those feelings all too well.

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 8:42:09 AM

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Thanks for your comment. That is exactly my point -- I think male subs are led around by our stiff sticks much more than some women may fully realize. The anticipation and expectation is always fun -- and while I'm in the headspace looking forward to release, I can be made to do lots of things. I can even imagine myself doing nearly anything. But once the release happens, that huge motivation is gone. In different areas, I've seen guys write quite a bit about wanting to drink their own cum, but can never make themselves do it, once they've released.

Being able to go to that next level and submit after release has been a big step in my development as a sub.

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 9:18:01 AM

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...<snip>As a sub, what happens once you've released and are no longer lead by your sexual desires? Are you truly submissive and able to complete your tasks or are you merely sexually submissive and your domme would have been wiser to not allow you to release?

it depends; if he asks me to mow the lawn afterwards, then he's totally fucked and so am i, so in that case, he would be wiser to wait to give me release.

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 9:49:01 AM

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LOL... okay falling asleep after the big O is not a problem! I sometimes tell them not to bother me after, so I can go to sleep! Bother me and 'we' might be up longer. hehe I can and do understand the desire build up and all that comes with it, but and that is a big but... if he no longer wishes to submit to me... there is a problem for 'us'. If he only wishes to submit in the bedroom so to speak and that is basically what that means to me if he only wants to be led by his cock and will do things only because he is led by his cock... that is a different kind of submission other than what I want.

The desire to submit in a relationship with me must come from a deeper source than the cock. It must come from who he is and who I am and how I inspire him to submit to me and that better come from more than what I sexually do to him.

I don't have a problem if that is what some want... I have a problem if that is what they want with me. I am not a handy dandy mistress play toy used to get your kink on. I am fun like that... but there is far more than that and that is where I am. I like sex too much to have him in denail all the time. I am not saying he wouldn't have times of denial... but they wouldn't be the normal. I can edge him for hours... all day or night... that is enough goin nuts to get a nut as far as my men and I have been concerned!

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 11:41:13 AM

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6 inch cylinder?

Don't be insulted; she probably didn't realize you and I were in the thread. Otherwise she'd have said, "10 inch cylinder."

Oh Great TDP, I just covered the keys with soda!

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 11:44:49 AM

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LOL Cat... I think they are both naughty ten'ers and need a bit of the lash... yes... they do! But then a riding crop sounds really interesting...

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 12:05:10 PM

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LOL Cat... I think they are both naughty ten'ers and need a bit of the lash... yes... they do! But then a riding crop sounds really interesting...

oh oh! Love the crop!!

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 12:19:09 PM

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LOL Cat... I think they are both naughty ten'ers and need a bit of the lash... yes... they do! But then a riding crop sounds really interesting...

mmmm warm weather, chain links in the barn, horses out and about, fresh hay, riding crops and leather riding boots, naked boys and not a soul around, heh heh, oh to be Us, eh Lockit??

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 12:24:22 PM

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LOL... well you won't find any horses at my place... unless I find myself a bit of a pony boy... hummm I must get right on that! I do have a shed... But it is still good to be me... even if I lack a pony at the moment... I am saving up idea's for him... I am considering punishing him for keeping me waiting though! Plus... my invitation to one of those ten'ers is always open! hehe I think he is scared...

But what is really cool... is my daughter thought of buying me a new riding crop... all on her own! I have a great daughter... lil domina in waiting she is! I am even learning a thing or two from her!

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 12:26:08 PM

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oh oh! Love the crop!!

I love even the sound of one! lol There is just something about it...

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 3:57:50 PM

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As a sub, what happens once you've released and are no longer lead by your sexual desires? Are you truly submissive and able to complete your tasks or are you merely sexually submissive and your domme would have been wiser to not allow you to release?

That is assuming all subs / slaves are lead by sexual desires!! I am not lead by sexual desires at all.
That is also assuming that you are either a sexual sub / slave or a true sub /slave!! Can you not be a sexual sub and be twue?

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Now the task switched from being something I wanted to do – to something Mistress Lynn wanted me to do.

Sometimes we subs / slaves have to do things we don't want to? Go figure.

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 7:29:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

6 inch cylinder?

Don't be insulted; she probably didn't realize you and I were in the thread. Otherwise she'd have said, "10 inch cylinder."

Oh Great TDP, I just covered the keys with soda!

I'd offer to come over and clean it up for you, but I already came today, so I'm not motivated.

Sorry. Maybe tomorrow.

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 7:31:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

LOL Cat... I think they are both naughty ten'ers and need a bit of the lash... yes... they do! But then a riding crop sounds really interesting...

mmmm warm weather, chain links in the barn, horses out and about, fresh hay, riding crops and leather riding boots, naked boys and not a soul around, heh heh, oh to be Us, eh Lockit??

Hmm. On second thought....

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/21/2009 7:31:28 PM

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ROFL!!!

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/22/2009 3:45:45 AM

Dougislooking

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The sex drive varies from person to person and so I would say that if you have a low sex drive, then there is very little effect gained or lost when a release is denied or granted. I think the point of this string is to talk about how sexual stimulation enhances, or alters the ability of someone to expose the submissive nature of someone. I think that if you were to ask a Domme who keeps her submissve chastised under lock and key, she would freely admit that her ability to push her subs limits increased with the length of time the sub is denied. It doesn't make a person submissve, you wouldn't be under lock and key if you weren't of a submissive nature, but it does allow the Domme to enhance your submissve experience and pushes you further down the path you wanted to travel.

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/22/2009 5:10:31 AM

womanworshipper

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Are You suggesting that Your Mistress was "unwise" to allow You release? It seems to me that She is trying to break the connection between Your submission and arousal (so You don't only obey Her when You are horny) and that She is succeeding as You completed the task when You were no longer aroused and did not want to complete it.

Sounds wise to me.

My own Mistress does not generally concern Herself with my release (She does not control it, She just doesn't give it any thought). i obey Her because that is what i have committed to. However, this does often make me aroused.

paul

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/22/2009 6:37:01 AM

slavekal

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With all respect, I think your Mistress is not seeing the total picture. Sure, immediately after release our urgency instantly diminishes. We often have an overwhelming desire to sleep. But the sexual desire comes back rather quickly after orgasm. And we need release to maintain internal health. For me, if I know that good service/behavior will lead to that orgasm reward, I will be a better slave. If I know that no matter what I do, it's just going to be denial, denial, denial, my motivation wanes. I get moody and irritable.

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/22/2009 6:45:44 AM

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There is no one particular activity that denotes one as a slave or submissive. The defining adjective for slavery is ownership. We are all indivuduals and have different requirements from a Mistress.
I was trained in a very strict manner, but once I learned that I had the respect of my slave that I wanted without doing all of the activities, I began to enjoy my life much better.
Live and let live. No used to worry about such matters. Just be you.

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ORIGINAL: stephykate

I wanted to share my recent experience with Mistress Lynn. It’s her belief that Dommes are reluctant to allow subs to release because once the sub releases, the Domme loses some control over their sub. Her tasks often require additional activity after the initial release that demonstrate true submission.

Mistress Lynn assigned me the task of edging myself over several days while wearing plastic pants. On the final day, I was allowed to release at a precise time into my plastic pants and once done, put the plastic pants on my head and lick them clean.

When I received this task I was extremely excited to complete it. Knowing I’d be edging myself over several days and then releasing into the plastic pants, I could easily imagine myself slurping up my cream off the inside of my pink plastic pants.

As each day passed, the intensity built. Finally, at the appointed time, I put on my pink plastic pants and began edging myself for 30 minutes until I was allowed to release. As I did so, I kept looking at the clock waiting for the 30 minutes to complete.

Finally, the time came and I squirted my cream. At this point, the inevitable “let down” happened and my desire to complete the task that was there just a few seconds ago was gone.

Now the task switched from being something I wanted to do – to something Mistress Lynn wanted me to do. I took off my cream-filled plastic panties that only a moment ago were the object of my desire and reluctantly opened up the waistband and slipped the front over my face. Once inside, I cleaned the inside of my plastic pants with my tongue, regretting that I agreed to the task, but knowing I will again.

As a sub, what happens once you've released and are no longer lead by your sexual desires? Are you truly submissive and able to complete your tasks or are you merely sexually submissive and your domme would have been wiser to not allow you to release?

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/22/2009 7:46:06 AM

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With all due respect slavekal, I think it is you that has gotten it wrong. His Mistress encourages releases and asked stephykate to post this message after he realised how his mind set changed after his release. This message was intended as a way of making this point to other submissives and slaves, but it got highjacked by some Dommes and Doms who totally missed the point and tried to tells us all that they know what goes on inside the minds of the subs or slaves at all times. Wouldn't this lifestyle be a drag if that was so. Stephykate opened up and expressed his true feelings on this matter, what was actually going thru his head, but he also confirmed that his submission was true when he completed the task as assigned.

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RE: Sexual or True Submissive? - 3/22/2009 8:37:12 AM

Lockit

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ORIGINAL: Imakemensquirm

With all due respect slavekal, I think it is you that has gotten it wrong. His Mistress encourages releases and asked stephykate to post this message after he realised how his mind set changed after his release. This message was intended as a way of making this point to other submissives and slaves, but it got highjacked by some Dommes and Doms who totally missed the point and tried to tells us all that they know what goes on inside the minds of the subs or slaves at all times. Wouldn't this lifestyle be a drag if that was so. Stephykate opened up and expressed his true feelings on this matter, what was actually going thru his head, but he also confirmed that his submission was true when he completed the task as assigned.

I am not sure I saw any domiant's stating that they knew what goes on inside the minds of submissive's and slaves at all times. I am also not sure that anyone said the op was a true submissive/slave or not. I believe we spoke about what we believed or what our experience or expectations are. We gave opinions and our take on it.

Did any of us hinder the op in speaking his mind? No... some comment was made on it. There was no need to go as graphic in his post... so graphic that he sounded like a wanker here to share his wanking pleasures. I do believe a dominant could ask that strangers be a part of a process/correction or whatever... but I have some thoughts on that too. But what they are, are my thoughts... I tend not to like it, especially when many come and say a dominat said for them to do this when there is no dominant and their profile reads that they are looking for a dominant. Everything feeds into everything else.

Another dominant sending a submissive to ask if one is fake or real to prove a point... well... not what I would do and it feels rather like a set up or manipulation. To each their own... but when it goes public... expect anything. To send someone to teach a point... well... lol... expect anything there too.

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