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how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 5:33:37 PM   
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as i find myself in the midst of middle age, im coming to realize i don't know who im supposed to be anymore...i truly never expected to live this long, i always figured someone would have killed me by now, either myself by a drug overdose or alcohol poisoning, or some dude i got into it with would have pulled a gun and blown me away, and actually i was fine with that, i figured die young stay pretty, well, for good or for bad i survived, now what?????????? it's funny, i have very mixed emotions about the drug and alcohol period time of my life,,,,,some small part of me regrets i cleaned up because if i hadnt i wouldnt have to deal with this now, so for those of you going through the same thing, how are you dealing?how does one go about re-defining who you are?
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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 6:26:42 PM   
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Im dealing with it just fine. But thats because I started my journey to this place at age 21. It sounds like you're single and no children? You didn't give enough info on yourself. Just saying you didnt think you'd live this long isnt enough. I recall having such a hard life way back when, that I didnt care if I would die. In a way that would have been ok with me. On the other hand I did move forward. What do you think you want from life from here on in?

Maybe no one expects to live long. Im about the same age as you and when we were in our teens, we did live pretty hard and fast with drugs and alcohol. Aids killed off half my college art school friends. But when I had children, I did pretty much focus on other people. Maybe that saved me.

I redefine myself every five years I think. But as a woman, I do some of that thru new clothes. Seems shallow but to me its not. I see myself as the age I am. So within that age, I try to look or be the best I can for that age. I know Im doing well just by looking around me. Your photo looks ok to me. You look good! Kindly as well.

Can you find a person in history or today thats your age who looks really good to you? Can you size yourself up against that? Or look to see who you've outlived even. I feel pretty good that I am still alive, after seeing all the people who have died along the way who were my age. I know I've compared myself to Madonna, although her "career" is not the standard I use. Im interested in other aspects of her life. I also have taken a look at Tina Turner. I'd like to be like that at 65-70.

Do you see what Im saying? I also read lots of biographys on my favorite authors lives. That was very helpful to me. Who are your favorite figures in history? Read about their lives. Theres lots to be learned from how other people have lived. No one has a perfect life. Thats for sure. I think to myself, even Einstien was a space cadet and had five girlfriends while married. So I define myself thru other people's ups and downs. I'm part of the human family thru the ages for sure.

Good luck to you. I think you'll be ok. lol

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 7:11:11 PM   
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My life is not what I thought it would be, and no I don't have it all figured out. But all I can do is my best at any particular moment. One thing I do know, is what matters, and what matters most is how I act towards those I love.

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 7:35:35 PM   
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very insightful and deeply thought out answer,,,if i may respond to just one small part of your posting, because nothing else really requires an answer and would simply be typing for typing's sake,,,the historical figure i've always most identified with would be Genghis Khan

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 7:58:49 PM   
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Having accomplished many significant milestones by age 40 according to what was expected of me, i look at the next 40+ as mine...to delve into as many exciting adventures and life experiences as possible and to journey towards my "becoming".  Life is indeed wonderful after 40

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 8:28:12 PM   
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      I really don't give it much thought, Vincent.  I've never had the slightest twinge of regret at walking away from the kind of life I used to live.  My actions and choices define me, not what I tell myself, when I'm sitting alone.  Somehow, I lived through those times.  I never expected to, but here I am.

    The darkness passes.  My advice would be to laugh at yourself more.  This is all a gift.

     

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 8:32:30 PM   
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i think my biggest issue is, ive always defined myself by what i could do, people judged me and because of how i looked they expected a certain behavior,,,so i gave them what they wanted,,,not being able to do what i once could, i no longer have an identity and am searching for who i am

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 8:37:33 PM   
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quote:

so for those of you going through the same thing, how are you dealing?how does one go about re-defining who you are


I think we all follow a roughly similar arc as we move through our 40s and into our 50s, but unfortunately the lessons each of us learn along the way are not necessarily always useful to others following behind us. That period of our life brings more changes, more rapidly, than any other period since our adolescence and early adulthood. And unlike most of the changes we experience earlier in life, the physical changes of middle age  almost always represent loss - we're not as healthy, we're not as energetic, we have more aches and pains, and with the awareness of those changes comes the realization that all of them are only going to get worse. We're increasingly and acutely aware that much more of our life is behind us than ahead of us, and it's sometimes difficult not to feel as though every day is another step in a long decline. I know where you're coming from.

But you know what? For all the ways that the glass is half empty, there are just as many ways that it's half full. For some of us, anyway. It just requires learning a different way of measuring the glass. Over a period of time, through that veil of mourning for our lost youth, we often begin to see that our lives make sense to us in ways that they never did before. We begin to understand - i mean, really understand - all the things we learned during our early and middle adulthood, that tortured, tumultuous period when we roared headlong down the road far too fast to notice what we were racing past. All the fragmentary, seemingly unrelated lessons that we sorta noticed smacking us in the face but didn't really understand, suddenly come together and start to form a complete picture, like solving a puzzle. For some people, things make sense to us, life makes sense to us, we finally... get it. 

And with that comes  a kind of happiness that's hard to really recognize as happiness, at least at first. Because it's a different kind of happiness than we're used to; it looks and feels different than what we've always called happiness. For many of us, it's calmer, more peaceful, a more secure state of mind than we're used to feeling. Is it better than what we had to give up to get here? Is it a worthwhile tradeoff? I don't know. I wish I could say yes, but I don't know. Whether it's better than being young, well... in many ways, sure it is. Whether it's better overall, I really can't say, because I'm still in the middle of it myself. But whether it is or it isn't, it's at least something - something very valuable and very worth having. It is what it is, and it's what we have.  So we might as well enjoy it for what it is, and grow as fully as possible into whatever potential it offers us.

You see, it's not about redefining who we are - it's about rediscovering who we are. Who we've become. Getting to know, for the first time really, this person we've been in the process of becoming all our lives. You don't need to redefine yourself. Just give it a little time, and the definitions will become clear on their own.  My suggestion is to pay attention to the lessons you've learned in the first half of your life, and get acquainted with the the skills you've acquired and the talents you've developed along the way - and use those new skills and talents to build into your life whatever makes you happy and gives you satisfaction. There's no hurry. You've got the rest of your life.


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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 8:41:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TaoWoman

Having accomplished many significant milestones by age 40 according to what was expected of me, i look at the next 40+ as mine...to delve into as many exciting adventures and life experiences as possible and to journey towards my "becoming".  Life is indeed wonderful after 40


Beautiful words from a beautiful woman.

So very true.

Next month I will be 47, I am both unphased and estatic. I adore birthdays. However the whole age thing, I've never gotten why it's such a downer to so many people. I really love it. Seriously

Sure, my body isn't the same as it was 20 years ago, if I had the money.........maybe I might lift the boobulas back to a regioun they once were. But yanno, they fed two beautiful babies, it's all good. Those two beautiful babies are now 28 and almost 30. How totally awesome is that???? I love that I went through some hellish years, made a lot of sacrifices and now have two adults that I love more than I can find words for, that I not only love, but LIKE, admire, RESPECT. They are really amazing and awesome people. Even if they were not my kids I would want to know them. So yeah, that was 30 years well spent.

I just love living. The good, the bad and the ugly. I love the messiness of life. I love that you can plan and think you've got everything under control and BAM!!! life tosses you a curve ball from left field that leaves you reeling and wondering "what the fuck is this all about?!?!" And, I love that I know I can handle it. I love that my 46almost47 years has given me the confidence in myself to know that. I love that I know how to love. I love that I know how to accept people for who they are, forgive them for not being who I want them to be.

I love that I plan on being around AT LEAST another 60 years to keep the people I love on their toes.

Life is pretty fucking wonderful from where I am sitting. I wish that for everyone.

< Message edited by LaTigresse -- 3/20/2009 8:43:22 PM >


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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 8:51:48 PM   
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I like how my balls hang low and sway to and fro.

It makes me feel Sexy.

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 8:57:37 PM   
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Make the choice to be undefinable.  I believe, once you're definable, you become stagnant. 

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 9:04:15 PM   
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I like how my balls hang low and sway to and fro.

It makes me feel Sexy.

chia* (the pet)




mine dont do that yet, but some older buddies tell me they can judge how cold the water is in the toilet wen they first sit down in the morning,,,not a great visual if you ask me but hey, to each his own,dont judge me, i wont judge you

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 9:06:38 PM   
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I like how my balls hang low and sway to and fro.

It makes me feel Sexy.

chia* (the pet)



I was going to ask how cold the water is in the toilet bowl.

Grandpa used to say the water out here on the farm was the WORST!

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 9:10:14 PM   
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my hunting buddies in arkansas call them redbone nuts,,,,,for you city folks a redbone is a type of hound dog,,,,,and if youve ever watched one walking away from you. you'd know what im talking about

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 9:11:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse


Beautiful words from a beautiful woman.

So very true.


Thankyou LaTigresse and compliments to you as well

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Next month I will be 47, I am both unphased and estatic. I adore birthdays. However the whole age thing, I've never gotten why it's such a downer to so many people. I really love it. Seriously


My 47th comes up this year too and I am celebrating with a beautiful, full torso wrap around tattoo honoring the Divine Feminine within...it celebrates the next stage of my journey. I love birthdays too~

And like you, i am both proud of and honored to have raised a beautiful young woman who enters adulthood herself this fall



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I just love living. The good, the bad and the ugly. I love the messiness of life. I love that you can plan and think you've got everything under control and BAM!!! life tosses you a curve ball from left field that leaves you reeling and wondering "what the fuck is this all about?!?!" And, I love that I know I can handle it. I love that my 46almost47 years has given me the confidence in myself to know that. I love that I know how to love. I love that I know how to accept people for who they are, forgive them for not being who I want them to be.


I feel the same way! Lately, i have had a fair helping of curve balls and growth situations and every morning i look in the mirror and know i have what it takes to not just ride out the storm but master the wave...it is an empowering feeling~



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Life is pretty fucking wonderful from where I am sitting. I wish that for everyone.


My sentiments exactly


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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/20/2009 11:59:29 PM   
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I like how my balls hang low and sway to and fro.

It makes me feel Sexy.

chia* (the pet)



But, but, can you tie them in a bow?

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/21/2009 12:03:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: girlygurl


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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet


I like how my balls hang low and sway to and fro.

It makes me feel Sexy.

chia* (the pet)



But, but, can you tie them in a bow?


Not yet, I'm still working on training the grasshoppers to bungee jump into the toilet.

chia* (the pet)


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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/21/2009 2:17:24 AM   
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What did you dream about being as a child? What were your aspirations, your passions and hobbies? Sometimes its as simple as reconnecting with that person that got lost over the years. Be who you want to be, not what society tells you to be or base your failures and success on that criteria. Happiness is being happy with yourself, not with material/financial, or living up to someone elses standards. :)

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as i find myself in the midst of middle age, im coming to realize i don't know who im supposed to be anymore...i truly never expected to live this long, i always figured someone would have killed me by now, either myself by a drug overdose or alcohol poisoning, or some dude i got into it with would have pulled a gun and blown me away, and actually i was fine with that, i figured die young stay pretty, well, for good or for bad i survived, now what?????????? it's funny, i have very mixed emotions about the drug and alcohol period time of my life,,,,,some small part of me regrets i cleaned up because if i hadnt i wouldnt have to deal with this now, so for those of you going through the same thing, how are you dealing?how does one go about re-defining who you are?


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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/21/2009 3:11:52 AM   
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as i find myself in the midst of middle age, im coming to realize i don't know who im supposed to be anymore...i truly never expected to live this long, i always figured someone would have killed me by now, either myself by a drug overdose or alcohol poisoning, or some dude i got into it with would have pulled a gun and blown me away, and actually i was fine with that, i figured die young stay pretty, well, for good or for bad i survived, now what?????????? it's funny, i have very mixed emotions about the drug and alcohol period time of my life,,,,,some small part of me regrets i cleaned up because if i hadnt i wouldnt have to deal with this now, so for those of you going through the same thing, how are you dealing?how does one go about re-defining who you are?


What I didn't see in my old age is non stop fights with insurance companies.  My x broke her back and the insurance company tried to bail out.  She was hurt in an auto accident and although three doctors said that to medical certainty the injury was due to the accident,  we had to go to court again. I am close to another suit with another auto insurer that wants Medicare to pay rather than honor its contract.  State Farm sold us a salvage motor vehicle and at least the resulting suit cost the insurer over $500,000 in attorney fees and it had to pay dearly (as well as settle in 49 states). But, I would rather read fiction.  Insurance coverage is required by law but all it seems to do is give you the right to sue.

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RE: how are you dealing with it? - 3/21/2009 4:35:20 AM   
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No one lives life without regrets....our hind sight is so much better then our fore sight. I will be turning 50 in just a matter of a couple of months and for any regret or question I may have experienced I have learned a great lesson. I have made poor choices from time to time but, got past them, I have made great choices and still and all never stopped to dwell on them. I learn and experience so many things that life is still an unfolding adventure!....
The only thing I dislike about aging is that some of the ones I wish to share the experiences, the fun, the trials and triumphs are no longer here to share them with. I have learned to be a Father, a Husband and now of all things, a Grandfather!....I am not the cocksure young man I once was but, I am a better man for being who I have become and with my help my son will be a better man still. By learning to be a father I have helped my daughter become a better mother....I will teach and learn from grandson and do my best to be the positive influence I have  had from others....Damndest thing.....sometimes the happiness we seek is not any further away than right in front of us. Life is a wonderful experience!....share it with those you love....it will only make it better!

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