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InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 7:32:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: There is no such thing as a no limits human being. By the nature of our membership in the human race we all have limits. There is no such thing as a lot of things people claim to be in bdsm but does that mean we just throw them out as being non - existant too? If you take someone...oh say...that's into puppy play, just as an example, and you tell them that they aren't REALLY a canine...well, they will readily admit you are right and that it's just fantasy. If you tell a self professed "no limits slave" that they REALLY aren't no limits, they often take it as some sort of personal affront that seems to imply that they aren't real, they aren't dedicated or committed enough or that they are less worthy somehow. The "no limits" tag they affix themselves with somehow validates them. Quite true, completely agree. Except that most owned subs would react the same way should you tell them that they aren't really owned subs, it's all just fantasy. We don't attack owned subs saying they think they are so much better than anyone else when they have never claimed that do we? What validates me is being me and no amount of people telling me i am not who i am and what i believe is rubbish is going to change that. Who are we to judge what validates someone is rubbish or even wrong. Each to their own i say.

mistoferin -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 7:43:29 AM)
The problem doesn't lie in what we personally believe or find validating...the problem happens when we expect others to believe in it or validate us. I can believe I'm green with pink polka dots if I like but if I get pissed off at everyone who tells me I'm not...well then, that's a problem.

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 7:47:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin The problem doesn't lie in what we personally believe or find validating...the problem happens when we expect others to believe in it or validate us. I can believe I'm green with pink polka dots if I like but if I get pissed off at everyone who tells me I'm not...well then, that's a problem. Honestly as i see it especially in this thread the only 'validate me' behaviour has come from the subs / slaves who do not claim to be no limits. Not one no limit sub / slave has put down a limits sub / slave. They have only tried to explain why they feel the way they do.

kittinSol -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 7:54:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut Slaves give rights to their dom's, it's as simple as that. At this stage of the discussion, I'm afraid the 'slave' doesn't matter (and she may well get off on that). It's the doms that make stupid statements like 'I have the right to your life' that need reminding, in a serious way, that they're out of their depth. It's one thing to ride a fantasy wave of omnipotence: but don't try and convince me that they have the right to kill their submissive/slave/servant because she 'gave him the right to kill her'. That's presposterous, and to compare it to spanking... even more so.

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 7:56:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut Slaves give rights to their dom's, it's as simple as that. At this stage of the discussion, I'm afraid the 'slave' doesn't matter (and she may well get off on that). It's the doms that make stupid statements like 'I have the right to your life' that need reminding, in a serious way, that they're out of their depth. It's one thing to ride a fantasy wave of omnipotence: but don't try and convince me that they have the right to kill their submissive/slave/servant because she 'gave him the right to kill her'. That's presposterous, and to compare it to spanking... even more so. And i most certainly will not try to take away the RIGHT that you have to that opinion. Just as you i would hope you would accept that others have the RIGHT to decide where the lines lie in their relationship [;)]

kittinSol -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:01:35 AM)
As erin says, they can fantasise all they want. But they shouldn't get upset when others point out the discrepancies in their belief system because they claim they are 'no-limits slaves'.

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:07:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol As erin says, they can fantasise all they want. But they shouldn't get upset when others point out the discrepancies in their belief system because they claim they are 'no-limits slaves'. Yes no limit slavery doesn't exist, just as owned slaves don't exist. Glad we put the world to rights.

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:13:56 AM)
everyione has limits. even if its just one... we all have limits. it may not be one your owner would ever cross. but you do have limits. nice look erin!

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:16:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl everyione has limits. even if its just one... we all have limits. it may not be one your owner would ever cross. but you do have limits. nice look erin! As has been said all the way through as a no limit sub i have the limits of my owner. So really what you just said, not rocket science and not been denied anywhere in this thread.

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:20:03 AM)
now subs have no limits?

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:23:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl now subs have no limits? Oh ffs, slave / sub, what does it matter? The point was the same.

kittinSol -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:25:46 AM)
Just like I said, it's the uber Doms/owners/masters whatevers that are to be laughed at here, with their crazy claims that they have the right to kill. What are these people on, ffs?

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:26:02 AM)
submissive by the definition has limits. period. which is why they arent slaves. why do you insist on the "no limit" handle? your relationship contains limits, either they are your limits, or your owners, but the limits do exist. and thats why people are objecting to the lable.

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:27:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Just like I said, it's the uber Doms/owners/masters whatevers that are to be laughed at here, with their crazy claims that they have the right to kill. What are these people on, ffs? Drugs [:D]

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:29:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl submissive by the definition has limits. period. Oh please, now you want a sub / slave definition debate? quote: why do you insist on the "no limit" handle? your relationship contains limits, either they are your limits, or your owners, but the limits do exist. and thats why people are objecting to the lable. I dare you to go back and read the posts which state that no limits means the limits of their owners. [;)]

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:31:08 AM)
for example. i prefer a gorean man. does that make me a gorean slave? nope.. not at all. that makes me a slave owned by a man who believes in the ethos of what the gorean philosophy represents. he doesnt claim to be gorean. he isnt from gor. i dont claim to be anything more than his slave. his limits are my limits. period. no exhaulted stations. no pretenses. i am his, period. he could turn leather tomorrow, i would still be his. he could become a Daddy Dom the week after (god that would be hilarious) and i would still be his. i do not define me, he does.

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:33:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl for example. i prefer a gorean man. does that make me a gorean slave? nope.. not at all. that makes me a slave owned by a man who believes in the ethos of what the gorean philosophy represents. he doesnt claim to be gorean. he isnt from gor. i dont claim to be anything more than his slave. his limits are my limits. period. no exhaulted stations. no pretenses. i am his, period. he could turn leather tomorrow, i would still be his. he could become a Daddy Dom the week after (god that would be hilarious) and i would still be his. i do not define me, he does. Bully for you, want a medal. I'm not going to diss or object or question your RIGHT to believe all you have just said.

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:33:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl submissive by the definition has limits. period. Oh please, now you want a sub / slave definition debate? quote: why do you insist on the "no limit" handle? your relationship contains limits, either they are your limits, or your owners, but the limits do exist. and thats why people are objecting to the lable. I dare you to go back and read the posts which state that no limits means the limits of their owners. [;)] so, if your owner has a limit for you, you disregard it?

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:35:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl submissive by the definition has limits. period. Oh please, now you want a sub / slave definition debate? quote: why do you insist on the "no limit" handle? your relationship contains limits, either they are your limits, or your owners, but the limits do exist. and thats why people are objecting to the lable. I dare you to go back and read the posts which state that no limits means the limits of their owners. [;)] so, if your owner has a limit for you, you disregard it? Which part of 'no limits' for me and most who have posted here means taking on only the limits of my owner do you not understand?

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (4/1/2009 8:36:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl submissive by the definition has limits. period. Oh please, now you want a sub / slave definition debate? quote: why do you insist on the "no limit" handle? your relationship contains limits, either they are your limits, or your owners, but the limits do exist. and thats why people are objecting to the lable. I dare you to go back and read the posts which state that no limits means the limits of their owners. [;)] so, if your owner has a limit for you, you disregard it? Which part of 'no limits' for me and most who have posted here means taking on only the limits of my owner do you not understand? the definition of no limits itself. you have limits.

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