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kuriouswitch -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 10:22:03 AM)
Master and i discussed this when we first began talking. I'm not keen on the idea of being shared even if i know the person(s). He likes the idea of a gang bang and even just adding another girl to the mix for the night. These would be sometime things, no second slave, and we've discussed what would happen. For me, i'm strictly monogomous and know i would find it hard to do but we also came to the arangement because i'm new to this that i'd try most things at least once, and if i didn't enjoy it then it'll be done less or not at all.

Aynne88 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 10:27:57 AM)
ShaktiSama and domiguy need to mate and produce the world's most interesting brain child. I freaking love you two![:)] Seriously, don't hold back guys~ Oh, you can do a petri dish baby making thingie if you don't want to go all old school. Just sayin'.[;)] quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama Fast reply: loaning out my sub = yeeeeccch. Unsanitary! For god's sake, this man is my personal sex toy. I don't loan out my vibrators or dildos to other women, either. Friends are friends but puh-freaking-lease--there are limits! Whether I have the "right" or the "power" to do crazy-unsafe-swinger crap is irrelevant. I don't want the exposure to health risks AND emotional risks that goes with an extended network of sexual partners. I've seen the exponential risk chart that clocks your exposure to STD's as you add partners. It's creepy and squick-tastic. I will never understand dominants who are turned on by making their submissive partner into the village bicycle, or some kind of cum-dumpster. Sure, great, you're all domly and in charge and you sure showed that sub who was boss. Now you're the proud owner of a festering pile of genital warts, lesions and AIDS! Hurray for you.

susie -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 10:29:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 BUT, and this is a mighty big BUT...also be aware that people can change and a Master may completely shift his view on a particular subject entirely...as a slave you must be prepared to handle that eventuality, not have the view of "well, i'm kickin' rocks!" daddysprop247 I have shortened your post to highlight the above. I am aware of your relationship and the no limits lifestyle you have. As per your comment above that a Master may completely shift his view and if this happened you would not walk away. Can I ask what you would do in the circumstance that your Master suddenly decided he was no longer interested in the Master / slave relationship and wished it to continue on a purely vanilla basis. Would you still stay in the relationship under those conditions?

daddysprop247 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 10:34:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: susie quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 BUT, and this is a mighty big BUT...also be aware that people can change and a Master may completely shift his view on a particular subject entirely...as a slave you must be prepared to handle that eventuality, not have the view of "well, i'm kickin' rocks!" daddysprop247 I have shortened your post to highlight the above. I am aware of your relationship and the no limits lifestyle you have. As per your comment above that a Master may completely shift his view and if this happened you would not walk away. Can I ask what you would do in the circumstance that your Master suddenly decided he was no longer interested in the Master / slave relationship and wished it to continue on a purely vanilla basis. Would you still stay in the relationship under those conditions? it would make no difference whatsoever, not sure why it should. if he decided he no longer wished to be a Master and no longer wished for me to be slave, and instead wished us to relate to one another simply as a dominant man and submissive woman in a basically vanilla relationship...that would be his choice and i would accept it.

daddysprop247 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 10:36:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: The more I am out here the more I am continually reminded of the falseness of many of the assumptions that we make. Is this really any different than finding people with any like interests? If you find pleasure in the outdoors then it would behoove you to find the person that enjoys camping and hiking. Why is this really any different? I am continually baffled. For me this is different because whilst Sir and i share a lot of interests and i enjoy doing many things for him, with him there are also things i loathe doing that i do as his slave. As a non-slave just his equal most of these things would recieve a hell no. Not everyone gets mutual enjoyment all the time out of their relationships. ssshhh!! that is supposed to be top secret! [:D]

CelticPrince -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:01:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP CP, I use 'you' because writing 'one' is cumbersome. But since I don't know you personally of course I wasn't referring to you personally but using 'you' to indicate a general you. I had assumed that would be understood since we were all talking about hypothetical relationships and not one specific one. Edit to add: But my point still remains that if you general have the right to demand any extreme and unsafe act which you know is likely if not definite to cause trauma in your general s type, then you general had better be prepared to stand up to the plate. To provide the $20,000 a year anti- AIDS drugs cost. To pay for a mental hospital, and for several years afterwards as she tries to put her life back together. If you general do not want to do the time, then do not do the crime as the saying goes. Basically be prepared that when you general say "what I say goes" you general must also realize that the buck stops there. Des, You will find no arguement here from me. I personally believe that if there were some way to force " masters" to accept serious responsibilities for their " s"s unexpected needs; there would magically see a huge number of "Sir's appear with a corresponding decrease in the "Master" count. that being said, I also believe that there are only a few that would demand potentially harmfull actions from there other. CP

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:03:54 AM)
sorry, wasnt in direct response to yours. you just happened to have posted... lol.. someone said something abotu condoms.. ranja... sorry about the confusion

CelticPrince -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:08:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama Fast reply: loaning out my sub = yeeeeccch. Unsanitary! For god's sake, this man is my personal sex toy. I don't loan out my vibrators or dildos to other women, either. Friends are friends but puh-freaking-lease--there are limits! Whether I have the "right" or the "power" to do crazy-unsafe-swinger crap is irrelevant. I don't want the exposure to health risks AND emotional risks that goes with an extended network of sexual partners. I've seen the exponential risk chart that clocks your exposure to STD's as you add partners. It's creepy and squick-tastic. I will never understand dominants who are turned on by making their submissive partner into the village bicycle, or some kind of cum-dumpster. Sure, great, you're all domly and in charge and you sure showed that sub who was boss. Now you're the proud owner of a festering pile of genital warts, lesions and AIDS! Hurray for you. Shakti, Well of course, but the thread address the right of power, not how it is used. CP

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:09:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: The more I am out here the more I am continually reminded of the falseness of many of the assumptions that we make. Is this really any different than finding people with any like interests? If you find pleasure in the outdoors then it would behoove you to find the person that enjoys camping and hiking. Why is this really any different? I am continually baffled. For me this is different because whilst Sir and i share a lot of interests and i enjoy doing many things for him, with him there are also things i loathe doing that i do as his slave. As a non-slave just his equal most of these things would recieve a hell no. Not everyone gets mutual enjoyment all the time out of their relationships. ssshhh!! that is supposed to be top secret! [:D] Aw crap sorry [:D] Some people will never ever get where you or i come from with our slavery.

Jeptha -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:09:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy ...If you conclude the value of a sub based entirely that she must accept being "loaned" out..That is absurd. ... Well, yeah...but no more absurd than most anything else discussed on this site. More risky; yes. More absurd; in that it's more risky, yes, but otherwise, no. quote: I believe that every one of these guys would do a complete 180 if they met the "right" woman. The "right" woman is just one who isn't able to go there, for whatever reason. But she's no more "right" than any other woman. This is the equivalent of the casual observer saying "If you loved someone, you could never hit them (or tie them up, or whatever deviates from the romance novel script.) quote: The more I am out here the more I am continually reminded of the falseness of many of the assumptions that we make. Is this really any different than finding people with any like interests? I think you are pretty much right on, there. quote: ORIGINAL: eyesopened ... I can harness my cat to a plow but it would kill the cat and not get the field plowed and there is failure for all.... !

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:15:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: The more I am out here the more I am continually reminded of the falseness of many of the assumptions that we make. Is this really any different than finding people with any like interests? If you find pleasure in the outdoors then it would behoove you to find the person that enjoys camping and hiking. Why is this really any different? I am continually baffled. For me this is different because whilst Sir and i share a lot of interests and i enjoy doing many things for him, with him there are also things i loathe doing that i do as his slave. As a non-slave just his equal most of these things would recieve a hell no. Not everyone gets mutual enjoyment all the time out of their relationships. ssshhh!! that is supposed to be top secret! [:D] Aw crap sorry [:D] Some people will never ever get where you or i come from with our slavery. thats just it ladies. you have your definition of slavery. yours to embrace and hold dear, to enjoy and revol in. yet, again, i ask.. what if the man in your life commands you to kill someone close to you? would you?

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:31:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 quote: ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut quote: The more I am out here the more I am continually reminded of the falseness of many of the assumptions that we make. Is this really any different than finding people with any like interests? If you find pleasure in the outdoors then it would behoove you to find the person that enjoys camping and hiking. Why is this really any different? I am continually baffled. For me this is different because whilst Sir and i share a lot of interests and i enjoy doing many things for him, with him there are also things i loathe doing that i do as his slave. As a non-slave just his equal most of these things would recieve a hell no. Not everyone gets mutual enjoyment all the time out of their relationships. ssshhh!! that is supposed to be top secret! [:D] Aw crap sorry [:D] Some people will never ever get where you or i come from with our slavery. thats just it ladies. you have your definition of slavery. yours to embrace and hold dear, to enjoy and revol in. yet, again, i ask.. what if the man in your life commands you to kill someone close to you? would you? Hang on a minute here, i never said mine was the one true way. With regards to your question i know my Sir would never ask me to do that. I would never have become involved with anyone i thought capable of asking me to commit murder. Its kind of a stupid question to ask really if i'm honest. What are the chances of us being asked to do that? Let's keep this within reasonable believability shall we?

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:34:00 AM)
i dont believe my question was that far out of the loop. just as i know Master would never share me, yet, for the sake of discussion, i entertained the idea. so, lets say he has asked you. what happens to your slavery?

InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:37:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl i dont believe my question was that far out of the loop. just as i know Master would never share me, yet, for the sake of discussion, i entertained the idea. so, lets say he has asked you. what happens to your slavery? I think you'll find that in comparison to being hired out commiting murder is a lot more out of the loop. Think about it!! It's really a moot point considering i will not be asked to do it. But just in case i'd better enjoy my meal with my brother tonight in case sir asks me to kill him next week rolls eyes

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:44:09 AM)
smiles didnt think you would answer, nor did daddysprop247 edited to add every slave wants so desperately to prove she is a slave. yet, slavery is consensual, and we all have our lines we cant or wont be pushed across, no matter what. i don believe either of you girls, or any slave or submissive who has posted to this thread are subbie brats, princesses or fakes. i do believe each of you are devoted as completely as you are able to be to the relationship you are committed too and enjoy. just dont forget, we all have our limits, even the no limits slaves. killing someone is usually a quick one to point that out

domiguy -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:47:30 AM)
here is the true litmus test....You want to be a "twue" dom? Then go after someone that is vanilla and caveman them to the point of submission. I believe that the courts frown rather strongly on this type of activity. Many a good Dom is getting three squares courtesy of the state for engaging in this type of behavior. The rest is merely taking control of the willing. It's similiar to commanding the sun to rise at dawn...Or bread to rise...It's a given. Nothing to see here move along. What we have here is merely like minds connecting. You dig this activity, so do I...Let's do lunch. I'll have my people humiliate your people.

daddysprop247 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:51:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl thats just it ladies. you have your definition of slavery. yours to embrace and hold dear, to enjoy and revol in. yet, again, i ask.. what if the man in your life commands you to kill someone close to you? would you? first tazzygirl, besides the outrageousness of your question, it is one that has been asked approx. 389,477 times on this board alone, lol. it is ALWAYS asked whenever the subject of no-limits slavery or anything approaching such comes up. i have responded to it many times, you can find my responses by doing a quick search. but i will tell you this now...commanding a slave to harm/injure/murder another person is completely outside of an Owner's bounds and rights. that is because an Owner has power and authority over THEIR property, not over every person walking the face of the earth. my Master has the right to do whatever he wills with me, to subject me to whatever, use me however...he does not have these rights over some person outside of the relationship. He has the right even to take my life...he does not have the rigth to take another's.

tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:57:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl thats just it ladies. you have your definition of slavery. yours to embrace and hold dear, to enjoy and revol in. yet, again, i ask.. what if the man in your life commands you to kill someone close to you? would you? first tazzygirl, besides the outrageousness of your question, it is one that has been asked approx. 389,477 times on this board alone, lol. it is ALWAYS asked whenever the subject of no-limits slavery or anything approaching such comes up. i have responded to it many times, you can find my responses by doing a quick search. but i will tell you this now...commanding a slave to harm/injure/murder another person is completely outside of an Owner's bounds and rights. that is because an Owner has power and authority over THEIR property, not over every person walking the face of the earth. my Master has the right to do whatever he wills with me, to subject me to whatever, use me however...he does not have these rights over some person outside of the relationship. He has the right even to take my life...he does not have the rigth to take another's. ok. fair enough. would you kill yourself while he watches? would you rob a bank to support him? would you move outside and live in a card board box while he lives in the comfort of his home? no limit slaves fascinate me. i would have thought one would have immediately said.. yes.. if he commanded it.

domiguy -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 11:59:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl thats just it ladies. you have your definition of slavery. yours to embrace and hold dear, to enjoy and revol in. yet, again, i ask.. what if the man in your life commands you to kill someone close to you? would you? first tazzygirl, besides the outrageousness of your question, it is one that has been asked approx. 389,477 times on this board alone, lol. it is ALWAYS asked whenever the subject of no-limits slavery or anything approaching such comes up. i have responded to it many times, you can find my responses by doing a quick search. but i will tell you this now...commanding a slave to harm/injure/murder another person is completely outside of an Owner's bounds and rights. that is because an Owner has power and authority over THEIR property, not over every person walking the face of the earth. my Master has the right to do whatever he wills with me, to subject me to whatever, use me however...he does not have these rights over some person outside of the relationship. He has the right even to take my life...he does not have the rigth to take another's. This is where you lose your mind...."He has the right even to take my life." I have no idea what happened to you. You need help. To reach this point is nothing to be proud of.. It simply shows that you place a complete lack of value on your own worth. If you believe you have no value, who else should? You have reaped exactly what you have sowed. There should be no surprise when other people don't feel the way you do. It is actually rather sad.

daddysprop247 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 12:01:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ok. fair enough. would you kill yourself while he watches? would you rob a bank to support him? would you move outside and live in a card board box while he lives in the comfort of his home? no limit slaves fascinate me. i would have thought one would have immediately said.. yes.. if he commanded it. yes. yes. yes. all highly unlikely and rather illogical scenarios of course, but as they would all be within his rights as Master, yes.

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