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InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 5:43:08 PM)

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This is where you lose your mind...."He has the right even to take my life."

I have no idea what happened to you.  You need help. To reach this point is nothing to be proud of..  It simply shows that you place a complete lack of value on your own worth.  If  you believe you have no value, who else should?

You have reaped exactly what you have sowed.  There should be no surprise when other people don't feel the way you do.  It is actually rather sad.


She hasn't lost her mind. As i said before things like this are moot points because of the chances of this happening. Is he going to risk a life sentence in prison, wouldn't have thought so. Discussions like these need to be kept in the realms of believable.
 
And also i hasten to add daddysprop chooses her lifestyle as you choose yours. Who are you to say its crazy or sad?





InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 5:52:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

Judgemental and way off base much!!
Ever taken the time to talk to someone who has been hired or loaned out and discussed your concerns with them?
I'm guessing not considering you have no clue that most put safety first and that mutual enjoyment is gained in most cases.


I'm sorry, have I offended the village bicycle? Excuse me while I get my Hazmat suit to continue this conversation.

There are a whole lot of people who get a whole lot of "mutual enjoyment" out of things that are really, really unsafe and unsound. This community is full of them. They, like you, will get all offended and up in arms if you mention that you are unwilling to cope with both the squick and the health risk involved in taking a dump down your sub's throat, cutting off the blood flow to his/her brain, or letting other dominants contaminate them with potentially malignant juices.

I don't particularly care if YOU think being loaned out is "mutually enjoyable" or that it can be made "safe". Even in terms of health risk, multiple partners will never be equivalent to one partner. For emotional risks, this is even more true. And I was posting about MY feelings regarding MY submissive partners--philosophically speaking, what other people do in their own relationships doesn't matter a tinker's fuck to me, except when they start beating their chests and insisting that their squicktastic hijinx are somehow a Gold Standard for the whole community.

My point was that the OP's stereotypical vision of the Twue Dom throwing his/her property to a biker gang is retarded and disgusting, from my point of view: if ALL submissives had to "expect" to be treated and used this way, I'd leave this community on the run, for the sake of my own health and safety. It's not only that some of the diseases to which people are exposed by multiple sexual partners are incurable and can be subtle and fatal--like HPV, which is nearly indetectable right up until it causes fatal uterine cancer. It's also that polyamory and swinger crap are NOT everyone's cup of tea.


Holy shit you're one piece of work and let me congratulate you on those lovely dulcet lady like tones.
I'm not the village bike no, however i could be and certainly wouldn't be ashamed of it.
My actual point was that whilst you have every right to hold an opinion and spout it the way you did it was ill informed and full of venom.




Lynnxz -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 5:54:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88



I see that Collar Me's annual springtime "Slaviest Slave" competition has begun. Please be seated folks, the What Slave can commit hari kari competition is about to start! The survivors will then move on the 50 man gang bang and the I hobble because Master cut my slavey toes off potato sack race! 



[:D][:D][:D]




InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 5:55:02 PM)

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there have been some changes to the rules this spring.  the "slaviest-slave" award is only open to those with limits...specifically limiting any Master (current or potential) from all manner of sociopathic outbursts, (cause we all know that the ONLY way to be safe from a sociopath is to make sure they know murder and associated mayhem are on one's hard-limits list)...the no-limits slaves have already won the "lunatic slave" award and have been disqualified from the "slaviest slave" competition.

 
tough break for the no-limits slaves, this season...they'll just have to be happy with everyone thinking they are absolutely nuts...but they are used to it though, so they should manage just fine.


Beth i think i love you [:D]
 







ThomasMore -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 5:56:15 PM)

I exercise my ultimate "right" by draining my new girl's bank account and donating everything to OxFam.




Jeptha -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 6:50:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

I'm sorry, have I offended the village bicycle? Excuse me while I get my Hazmat suit to continue this conversation....
Projecting your paranoia onto others is one thing, excusable since, ostensibly, you are discussing potential health concerns; but personal attacking someone like that is over the top.




Aynne88 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 7:15:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88



I see that Collar Me's annual springtime "Slaviest Slave" competition has begun. Please be seated folks, the What Slave can commit hari kari competition is about to start! The survivors will then move on the 50 man gang bang and the I hobble because Master cut my slavey toes off potato sack race! 



[:D][:D][:D]




I was trying to poke some holes in the heavy hoo haa of it all. Thanks.[8D]




daddysprop247 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 7:15:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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...You would be compatable to virtually anyone...


not to speak for daddysprop or anything, but, seriously, you are dead wrong on that point.  judging by the reception that no-limit slaves get around this message board, "virtually anyone" aren't lining up in droves to own one.
 
quite the opposite, actually.
 
for example, would you agree to take responsibility for her...or for a similar slave that felt the exact same way about you having the absolute power or right to do as you please?  anyone else on this thread extolling the virtues of having a slave that doesn't limit them in some way who would be just tickled pink to have one move in with them?  where is the outcry for someone to use that chainsaw on...that won't run in the other direction once you fire it up?
 
it has been this slave's experience that the overwhelming majority of folks engaging in M/s and D/s relationships have absolutely NO desire to own or be a no-limits slave and more often than not, disparage the practice.

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I see that Collar Me's annual springtime "Slaviest Slave" competition has begun. Please be seated folks, the What Slave can commit hari kari competition is about to start! The survivors will then move on the 50 man gang bang and the I hobble because Master cut my slavey toes off potato sack race!...orig: Aynne88


Aynne88,
 
there have been some changes to the rules this spring.  the "slaviest-slave" award is only open to those with limits...specifically limiting any Master (current or potential) from all manner of sociopathic outbursts, (cause we all know that the ONLY way to be safe from a sociopath is to make sure they know murder and associated mayhem are on one's hard-limits list)...the no-limits slaves have already won the "lunatic slave" award and have been disqualified from the "slaviest slave" competition.
 
tough break for the no-limits slaves, this season...they'll just have to be happy with everyone thinking they are absolutely nuts...but they are used to it though, so they should manage just fine.


beth, you are wonderful. [:)] seriously, thank you for that post, and for expressing what i have as of yet been too emotionally overwrought to express myself.




ShaktiSama -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 7:21:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeptha
Projecting your paranoia onto others is one thing, excusable since, ostensibly, you are discussing potential health concerns; but personal attacking someone like that is over the top.


Read the posts:  she was the first to get directly personal.  I simply gave her what she asked for, like the wunnerful "no limits" domm-AY that I am.

As for her incredibly hypocritical bitchiness--sorry, I find her and others like her nothing but funny.  Calling me "ill-informed" and "judgmental" while she simultaneously asserts that I am "unladylike" and "a piece of work", etc., when she has no idea who I am or what my life experiences have been, is so deliciously ironic that it's better than chocolate.

I also love the part where she snippily and haughtly explains that the reason I am WRONG, and that a real "no limits" slave relationship is neither insane nor unhygienic is because REALLY, what "no limits slave" means is "we pretend to have no limits, but really we are never penetrated without a condom and everything we do is safe sex and pleasurably consensual".

Forgive me if I am uninformed as to your extremely dubious use of the English language, folks.  Now back to your regularly scheduled "limitless" surrender to Twue Domination.





Aynne88 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/24/2009 7:34:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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...You would be compatable to virtually anyone...


not to speak for daddysprop or anything, but, seriously, you are dead wrong on that point.  judging by the reception that no-limit slaves get around this message board, "virtually anyone" aren't lining up in droves to own one.
 
quite the opposite, actually.
 
for example, would you agree to take responsibility for her...or for a similar slave that felt the exact same way about you having the absolute power or right to do as you please?  anyone else on this thread extolling the virtues of having a slave that doesn't limit them in some way who would be just tickled pink to have one move in with them?  where is the outcry for someone to use that chainsaw on...that won't run in the other direction once you fire it up?
 
it has been this slave's experience that the overwhelming majority of folks engaging in M/s and D/s relationships have absolutely NO desire to own or be a no-limits slave and more often than not, disparage the practice.

quote:

I see that Collar Me's annual springtime "Slaviest Slave" competition has begun. Please be seated folks, the What Slave can commit hari kari competition is about to start! The survivors will then move on the 50 man gang bang and the I hobble because Master cut my slavey toes off potato sack race!...orig: Aynne88


Aynne88,
 
there have been some changes to the rules this spring.  the "slaviest-slave" award is only open to those with limits...specifically limiting any Master (current or potential) from all manner of sociopathic outbursts, (cause we all know that the ONLY way to be safe from a sociopath is to make sure they know murder and associated mayhem are on one's hard-limits list)...the no-limits slaves have already won the "lunatic slave" award and have been disqualified from the "slaviest slave" competition.
 
tough break for the no-limits slaves, this season...they'll just have to be happy with everyone thinking they are absolutely nuts...but they are used to it though, so they should manage just fine


That was clever beth, I can appreciate sardonic humor.[;)] However, you are under the assumption that I actually think that there is such a creature as a "no limits" slave. I don't think there will ever be a way to test that theory though because unless a self proclaimed no limits slave is asked to actually perform one of these ridiculous scenarios, it will continue to be a very tiring never ending topic here.  So I don't think anyone is nuts, just perhaps defining no limits in whichever manner they deem it to be.  Which is a-ok, but hardly a concrete definition.




InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/25/2009 3:20:47 AM)

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As for her incredibly hypocritical bitchiness--sorry, I find her and others like her nothing but funny.  Calling me "ill-informed" and "judgmental" while she simultaneously asserts that I am "unladylike" and "a piece of work", etc., when she has no idea who I am or what my life experiences have been, is so deliciously ironic that it's better than chocolate.


Your blatant insinuation that all subs / slaves that are hired out are disease ridden whores was ill informed and judgemental. All the one's i know that partake in this, partake in this safely and as risk free as possible. Now saying that of course there are going to be those who don't give a damn and just fuck without condoms, but i do believe they are in the minority.
 
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I also love the part where she snippily and haughtly explains that the reason I am WRONG, and that a real "no limits" slave relationship is neither insane nor unhygienic is because REALLY, what "no limits slave" means is "we pretend to have no limits, but really we are never penetrated without a condom and everything we do is safe sex and pleasurably consensual".


How do you know that the limit of using a condom for penetration is set by the sub? Is it not possible that the Dom insists on the condom being used therefore the slave has set no limit? Most people i know do not get involved with others who would put their health at risk in the first place.
 








InTonguesslut -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/25/2009 3:24:17 AM)

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However, you are under the assumption that I actually think that there is such a creature as a "no limits" slave.


As i see it a no limits slave is only limited by the limits of her Dom. Therefore she is just careful to pick someone who would not or hopefully not (as you never know) ask her to commit murder, a bank robbery etc etc.
 




Aynne88 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/25/2009 4:28:01 AM)

Exactly. 100% right.




tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/25/2009 5:39:15 AM)

yeah, be careful you pick a man who wont ask you to do more than smile prettily and suck him off.




Aynne88 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/25/2009 5:51:38 AM)

They exist? [8|]. Even in my hideous vanilla marriage I had to do far worse than that on a daily basis.
Although come of think of it, I do recall him asking me to kill myself on more than one occasion. [;)]. Well, if drop dead bitch is actually a request.








tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/25/2009 6:00:00 AM)

Aynne

your sarcasm is almost endearing.  nor am i up for the slaviest slave award.  within the list of ect, there are quite a few things i have done as commanded.  so while you girls poke fun and exhault the self proclaimed no limit slaves... my limits are based upon personal experience.  some of us actually do have a brain and arent blind sheep being lead to slaughter, or other things.




Aynne88 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/25/2009 6:07:23 AM)

tazzy you absolutely misread my comment. Hard to convey stuff on a message board, I know. In this thread I actually I have been in agreement with you for the most part, the sarcasm was in agreement with  your comment and a cynical attitutude that prettily performed blowjobs pretty much fall into the category of Stepford wife, not owned slaves. Sorry you didn't see that.

Like you comment directly beneath mine, I did not take that personally. I just think that  this is one of this cyclical arguments that has no definitive answer

I mean this is your quote from yesterday tazzy where you clearly state that there are no "no limits" slaves. I agree.

"didnt think you would answer, nor did daddysprop247

edited to add

every slave wants so desperately to prove she is a slave.  yet, slavery is consensual, and we all have our lines we cant or wont be pushed across, no matter what.  i don believe either of you girls, or any slave or submissive who has posted to this thread are subbie brats, princesses or fakes.  i do believe each of you are devoted as completely as you are able to be to the relationship you are committed too and enjoy.  just dont forget, we all have our limits, even the no limits slaves.

killing someone is usually a quick one to point that out "




CelticPrince -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/25/2009 7:42:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kuriouswitch

Master and i discussed this when we first began talking. I'm not keen on the idea of being shared even if i know the person(s). He likes the idea of a gang bang and even just adding another girl to the mix for the night. These would be sometime things, no second slave, and we've discussed what would happen. For me, i'm strictly monogomous and know i would find it hard to do but we also came to the arangement because i'm new to this that i'd try most things at least once, and if i didn't enjoy it then it'll be done less or not at all.


kurious,

It would then appear that you have a wize master indeed.

Thanks for your input.

CP




tazzygirl -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/25/2009 8:54:10 AM)

hell Aynne

i did misread you.  its a bitch of a day, my knee aches, workmans comp is jerking me around.. yadda yadda yadda... in general im having a bad life day... lol

could be why Master is laying low..lol




daddysprop247 -> RE: The Power or " Right" (3/25/2009 10:26:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I have to chime in here.  Daddy's prop,  you again are mistaken it takes no effort on his part.  It is clear he can do whatever he chooses and has obviously done so.  There are no ramifications for his actions.  Since you are incapable of determining a path  for yourself he runs the ship.  You are not evolving, you are being led.  Basic compatability is not an issue in your realtionship...  It has no place within your relationship.  You would be compatable to virtually anyone.  You are incapable of caring what happens to you. 

You would be just as happy with CP or anyone else that would feed you and put you up.  You are really not that much of an entity.  Sort of a sexy amoeba


hmm so now i am a brainless, spineless primitive lifeform. domiguy, i have no idea why or how you come to some of the conclusions that you do, but i cannot begin to express just how horribly wrong and misguided you are here.

yes, my Master may do whatever he wishes to do within this relationship. that is his right. but does that mean that he actually DOES whatever he wishes to do?? no, because he does love and care for me so my feelings, thoughts, and general welfare are always taken into consideration. He has chosen to adjust, to compromise, to postpone...all for my benefit, not his. believe it or not he actually does not wish for me to have a miserable life. when he first told me of his desire for another slave, i was horrified, absolutely. that is an issue i thought we'd never have to face as 8 years ago he didn't have that desire anymore than i did. but i do understand that a person cannot control their desires, he was not trying to hurt me, it is what it is. with that being the case, it would be irrelevant to me emotionally if he decided to actually take on another slave or not...because for me once i know he has the desire, the damage is done. it would not hurt me less if he continued on without another slave but all the while craving one (and he absolutely would set aside his own desires and NOT take on another slave if he felt that would help me). so...because the desire exists...i want him to have what he desires. and i just have to dig deep and learn the best ways to handle it so that the situation is as positive as possible.

why do i share this with you, now? i have no idea, logically i know it will not make a bit of difference to you. you will still view me as some mindless, damaged zombie who could not possibly be of any value to anyone, and my Master as some heartless cruel person who views me as a disposable commodity.

without knowing us, how could you truly know the reality? how he came into my life when i needed him most, as a friend and savior? how he has sacrified so much in order to be with me? how he has literally saved my life, more than once? how mightily he has struggled and been tested dealing with someone with my history, baggage, issues? how every single day he holds me close and tells me how much he loves and needs me? how his family has taken me in as one of their own? no, you could not know these things.

you are wrong, i would not be happy with CP or KoM or you or anyone else other than the Man who owns me. before i met my Master, i did not particularly care about myself or what happened to me. life was hard and endless, people mean and cruel. good things just didn't happen to me. i was done with hoping for brighter days. but i met a man who opened my eyes and FORCED me to see the value that i do have, all the things that are beautiful and special and admirable about ME. in being his slave, i have come to see my own worth. the fact that you could never see the value in me that he sees or that i see in myself, only speaks to your own personal hang-ups and prejudices.





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