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RE: Wax Play - 3/24/2009 5:30:54 AM   
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HeavansKeeper wrote: 130º is when the pain threshold kicks in. On average.

That was a real WTF?!?!? moment until I realised you meant 130ºF (55ºC) rather than 130ºC (265ºF).

It's a good idea to be explicit about which units you're using, when writing for an international audience.  To a first-order approximation, only Americans and British people over fifty use Fahrenheit.

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RE: Wax Play - 3/24/2009 5:51:32 AM   
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That wax stained glass mosaic is amazing!  Was that done with a stencil or free hand painting?

He painted on a few coats of the black wax, cut out the shapes with a knife, and then filled in with colors, all freehand. :D

He's really great, I'd highly recommend his candles.


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RE: Wax Play - 3/24/2009 11:53:34 AM   
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HeavansKeeper wrote: 130º is when the pain threshold kicks in. On average.

That was a real WTF?!?!? moment until I realised you meant 130ºF (55ºC) rather than 130ºC (265ºF).

It's a good idea to be explicit about which units you're using, when writing for an international audience.  To a first-order approximation, only Americans and British people over fifty use Fahrenheit.

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I thought it went without saying <3.But you're right, I should be more international when I engage in units of weights and measures.

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RE: Wax Play - 3/25/2009 7:46:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bees wax melts at 140-150 degrees fahrenheit (enough to cause 3rd degree burns) and so should be avoided, at least until you have more experience. Paraffin wax melts at around 130 to 135 degrees Fahrenheit. mineral oil based wax (soft wax) melts at around 120 degrees fahrenheit and soy candles also melt at low temperatures. Low cost candles are normally the best as they are normally made from paraffin wax and are cheap because they have such a short burning time.
I make my own color candles from crayola crayons because these crayons melt at such low temperatures and don't have any nasty additives in them.

I love using the body as a canvas for some pretty wax art. I also have a pic on my profile of the kind of wax play I love to do.

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RE: Wax Play - 3/25/2009 8:17:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		jaz, I love the hummingbird wax picture! That's very pretty and creative.

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RE: Wax Play - 3/25/2009 2:00:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		 My favorite way to remove wax is with a knife, a small sword or peeling it off with my long red fingernails being sure to give it a good tug if I see hair in the wax..

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RE: Wax Play - 3/25/2009 2:17:51 PM   
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RE: Wax Play - 3/26/2009 2:34:51 AM   
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I love the crayon idea... so many colors! :D



Thannks Lynnxz

I am really into temporary body art and so give me a tool to use that will look good and Ill use it

Crayola crayons are very safe because of what they are made of but when you drip them you need to go in very close to be accurate and although the melting temperature is lower than paraffin wax, they will feel pretty intense to the sub.



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RE: Wax Play - 3/26/2009 8:29:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jaz, how do you go about melting them for a scene? Put a bunch of them into a little pot for paraffin type wax, make a candle out of them first, etc.?

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RE: Wax Play - 3/26/2009 8:49:28 AM   
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I just did some wax play over the weekend and was thinking about this while bending rather uncomfortably to pull the wax off of him. Lanolin? I wonder how hot you can get the pure oil without damaging skin ....


130º is when the pain threshold kicks in. On average.





Actually, that's quite helpful. Thanks :)

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RE: Wax Play - 3/26/2009 11:10:01 AM   
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Jaz, how do you go about melting them for a scene? Put a bunch of them into a little pot for paraffin type wax, make a candle out of them first, etc.?



Yes... its easy to make safe colored candles. I would never buy colored candles because they often contain substances that can cause 3rd degree burns.
buy a load of t-lights, some crayola crayons and your going to need a saucepan
Remove the t-light from its little metal cup along with the wick but reserve the wick and cup
melt the paraffin t-light candle first as this needs a slightly higher temperature than the crayon
When its melted, choose your color. You can do about 4 t-lights to one thick crayon for a good strong color.
Pour it back into the t-light with wick in place and allow to set.
Now you have candles in just about any color you like

Dripping artistically from a t-light is difficult. I use the end of a pencil in the melted wax. You can use a small paintbrush but you will need to throw it away afterwards so don't use expensive brushes.

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RE: Wax Play - 3/26/2009 6:28:29 PM   
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RE: Wax Play - 3/27/2009 9:57:10 AM   
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That was a real WTF?!?!? moment until I realised you meant 130ºF (55ºC) rather than 130ºC (265ºF).

It's a good idea to be explicit about which units you're using, when writing for an international audience.  To a first-order approximation, only Americans and British people over fifty use Fahrenheit.

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I agree that since this board in international that stating units of measure is important.  However Fahrenheit is the standard unit of measure in the U.S.  Not just for people over 50.  All weather forecasts are in Fahrenheit.  While it may be considered backward we have not officially converted over to the Metric system.  

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RE: Wax Play - 3/27/2009 2:58:21 PM   
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beeble wrote: To a first-order approximation, only Americans and British people over fifty use Fahrenheit.
keane wrote: However Fahrenheit is the standard unit of measure in the U.S.  Not just for people over 50.  All weather forecasts are in Fahrenheit.

The `over fifty' part was only supposed to apply to the British people.  Sorry for being vague.  I should have written `British people over fifty and Americans'.

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RE: Wax Play - 3/29/2009 1:49:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		An important point to know about candles is that some are manufactured with wicks that contain lead to make the wick stiffer so they will stand up nice and straight and not droop.  You could unwittingly poison your play partner or yourself.  If you rub the wick on a piece of paper and it makes a dark mark like a pencil then you can conclude that it contains lead.  In this case it might be better to play with a limp one rather than a stiff one.  Probably not a good idea to drip it on the tongue.

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RE: Wax Play - 3/29/2009 5:27:04 AM   
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crxmale wrote:
An important point to know about candles is that some are manufactured with wicks that contain lead to make the wick stiffer so they will stand up nice and straight and not droop. You could unwittingly poison your play partner or yourself. If you rub the wick on a piece of paper and it makes a dark mark like a pencil then you can conclude that it contains lead.

Just to be clear, these wicks don't just `contain lead': they in fact consist of a lead wire wrapped with cotton.  They're easily identifiable by the `pencil' test that crxmale mentions.  Other wire-core candle wicks use zinc, which is non-toxic.  Most wicks are not wire-cored at all.

Be aware but don't panic.

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RE: Wax Play - 3/29/2009 2:18:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks crxmale and beeble. I never knew that.
When you say wipe the wick on a bit of paper, I presume you mean before its been burning?

As for playing with a limp one rather than a stiff one.... thats really no fun now is it?

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RE: Wax Play - 3/29/2009 4:07:10 PM   
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When you say wipe the wick on a bit of paper, I presume you mean before its been burning?

I'd guess that, if you've already part-burnt the candle, snipping the very tip off the wick with a pair of scissors should remove any waxy-cottony gunge that might stop the lead marking paper.

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RE: Wax Play - 3/30/2009 8:23:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't usually reply to these, but a thought did occur to me while I was reading this. There are so many responses that I don't know if this has been suggested or not, BUT here goes just in case it hasn't been.

Have you considered first laying down a thin piece of cloth, like cheese cloth or something? The wax can kinda filter through the material to the skin, and they still get the warmth, or in some cases flaming hot, feel of it, but it's a quick and easy cleanup.

Certainly, not something for every occassion, but for a fast finish.... Maybe?

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RE: Wax Play - 3/31/2009 6:00:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've never done wax play before, but saw the mention of crayons and wondered whether it was possible to skip the candle all together and just use crayons and a lighter or some other heat source? 

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