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Andalusite -> RE: The Discussion of "forced against your will" (3/27/2009 8:45:42 AM)
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RedMagic, I agree that *that* form of no limits is a horrible idea. By "semantics," I meant that I think that calling a relationship "No limits" when you actually mean "We are compatible/have the same limits/trust the other person to be honorable and not expect me to do anything that would damage me or others" doesn't seem like an accurate description, in my opinion. It doesn't bother me if other people want to call it that, or call it anything else, for that matter, as long as everyone involved in the relationship in question is on the same page. [:D]
It's kind of like the 24/7 thing - if I were in a D/s relationship with someone, I would always be their Domme, or always be their submissive, just like I'd always be their girlfriend. That doesn't mean I submit to or dominate them in my sleep, and I might even sometimes be too exhausted to do something they want from me. So, I think that label is better left to Denny's and gas stations., but it doesn't bother me if other people choose to use it. [;)] Heck, I could even be in one/call it that myself, as long as the specifics of what my partner wanted were in line with what I need in a relationship.
Eyesopened, that's exactly it. It's not so much that my partner is forcing me to do something against my will, it's that I dislike it, so I have to force *MYSELF* to do it, even when it's difficult, as long as I can handle it. I just think that is very different from the kind of "forced" play mentioned in the OP, which I agree is a humiliation/verbal degradation scene request or game, rather than the person actually not wanting to do the activity in question (since they are begging for it to be done to them).
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