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chiaThePet -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general population. (4/1/2009 8:52:47 PM)


Why just the other day I was strolling along minding my own intellectual business,
when I slammed head first into a concrete pillar, rendering me dazed for a moment.

I soon enough recovered and gathered my faculties, brushing off my pantaloons and bruised ego.
As I held my head high, the total denial of my accomplishment soon turned to foolish embarrassment.

Ignoring the stares and giggles, I lowered my gaze down and strolled off to the beat of the throb in my head.
It was then I noticed I was sporting the most fierce and enraged erection I had experienced for quite some time.

Make of that what you will.

chia* (the pet)



VampiresLair -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general population. (4/1/2009 8:59:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FullfigRIMAAM1

So submissive men (and I guess probably women too) are inevitably former abuse victims?    M

Submissive men, and dominant woman, which is why they hate men so much. But obviously according to the OP, it increases the intelligence level of the sub male while it does not do the same for the domme female.

DV



Lockit -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/1/2009 9:17:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subinchico

Yes, I was definitely under the influence, chemically, as re-reading this OP, I see weaknesses abound!
1. First, Sexually submissive is missing from subject/title line.  I'm a dominant, pompous, conceited asshole in public (my occupation calls for it), extreme sub in private (like to be trampled bloody)..
2. Gender should have been left out, or females added to subject/title line.
3. Surviving childhood hardships should have been included in subject/title line.

Its genesis was inspired by the trend of mass intelligence assumed in humans here and on FL vs other sites I play in.
I’ve read only two replies so as I continue I expect some confusion/hostility/bitterness.  I apologize.


I don't know what career demands that someone be a pompus, conceited asshole and I have been in a lot of business in my time.  A man's man's world... tough guys, cut throat business, multi million dollar contracts at my dinner parties and weekend events and all sorts of things.  No where did I see the need for pompus, conceited ass holes... there were some around, but there was no need for them and they typically didn't last long.  There really isn't an excuse for such. 

I have been and worked with many who were abused and had challenging lives.  I don't find two results of such being higher intelligence or submissiveness. 

You can justify anything that you want and think whatever you will, but your reasoning and excuses fall flat on the floor.  And what's with this chemically induced?  You still aren't getting it are you?



StormsSlave -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/1/2009 9:32:22 PM)

I...um...what?  No, seriously man.  I have yet to meet a person who hasn't endured some sort of hardship...have you?  If hardship breeds intelligence, then I suppose I'm a freaking genius.



twisteddoll -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/1/2009 10:34:04 PM)

I feel like it bothers me that someone might think I'm submissive because I might have been abused or something of that nature.  I've had a conversation with one person in particular about an abusive relationship / situation "training" her to be a submissive.  Her words, not mine.  And it just made me really uneasy.  To think that anything about my relationship with my Master is abusive or unhealthy makes me extremely uncomfortable.  It's like saying being submissive is being damaged.  Which is a horrible thing to say.  I just feel like saying that the only reason someone would be submissive is because they've been abused is like.. it just ruins it.

As far as an intelligence level of anyone... I feel like that doesn't have anything to do with them being dominant, submissive, abused, privileged, blond, fat, skinny, whatever.  If you're smart, you're smart.  I've met plenty of the aforementioned people who're kind of dumber than rocks, and plenty who are way smarter than I am.



Missokyst -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general population. (4/1/2009 10:52:01 PM)

I am submissive, not male, not abused by overzealous parental units, had a fair amount of hardships.. and my IQ is better than average.  What's the point?  I am not richer.  I have a few degrees that don't make me any cash or contribute to my skills at my current occupation.
Honestly, I have run into a fair amount of the upper cali regions submissives, of both sexes, I don't see many making such broad based self serving statements..lol for long.
Maybe we need a nice friendly test.  I wonder which group will excel?
<g> I am going to say there is a 50 50 chance one group will win out over the other.
And then a coin is flipped and the other side will win.
Kyst



naswitch -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/1/2009 11:35:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subinchico

Yes, I was definitely under the influence, chemically, as re-reading this OP, I see weaknesses abound!
1. First, Sexually submissive is missing from subject/title line.  I'm a dominant, pompous, conceited asshole in public (my occupation calls for it), extreme sub in private (like to be trampled bloody)..
2. Gender should have been left out, or females added to subject/title line.
3. Surviving childhood hardships should have been included in subject/title line.

Its genesis was inspired by the trend of mass intelligence assumed in humans here and on FL vs other sites I play in.
I’ve read only two replies so as I continue I expect some confusion/hostility/bitterness.  I apologize.
quote:

ORIGINAL: subinchico

Because, extremely submissive males (i.e. into being beaten bloody, scarred/trampled/broken), survived/endured "hardships" during childhood/adolescence, which built “character” including intellect, even cleverness. I don’t know, just throwing this out there.







I feel strongly that we are individuals - some intelligent, some challenged, some chemically influenced, some needing chemical influence, and some (I'll put myself in this category) who don't care much for stereotypes or generalizations.
While I do love intelligent submissive men , I've never been attracted to those who are looking to have me stand in for any brutes they've known in the past.
 
Though I must say I think you got a couple things right (which I have marked to assist those under influences during reading).
Next time perhaps you could start with "I don't know" and "just throwing this out here" and proceed to finishing by hitting "Cancel".
 
But then again it is still April 1st - so I shall take the whole thread as a joke.




heartcream -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/2/2009 9:05:42 AM)

There are intelligent beings no matter where they are in the world or their life. I have met highly intelligent infants and highly intelligent animals. I dont think it is because one is submissive or dominant. I have certainly come across more dopey Doms than I care to know.

These sorts of lame questions are ridiculous. It is like asking if submissive types tend to be more visually attractive than their counterparts. Please.



MissEnchanted -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/2/2009 9:16:39 AM)

We are all unique...



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general population. (4/2/2009 4:37:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subinchico

Because, extremely submissive males (i.e. into being beaten bloody, scarred/trampled/broken), survived/endured "hardships" during childhood/adolescence, which built “character” including intellect, even cleverness. I don’t know, just throwing this out there.


Was there an actual question?



tornaway -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/2/2009 4:56:08 PM)

 Now there's an intelligent theory , if ever I heard one !    ( arrgh ) 



subinchico -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/8/2009 6:54:35 PM)

I’ve since learned that part of the general higher intelligence in the Lifestyle(s) folks may be due to the skewedness of people coming out. People of higher intelligence are more likely to be active and be out, more likely to be a rule breaker vs being a follower of traditional convention. They are also more likely to live their life vs living by societal conventions. As such they skew the sample data."
Considering why I sensed higher intelligence in CM folks, this could be more meaningful/true. Just look at the way most CM folks use words, its undeniable to me (superior intellect presented).  Oh, and there is a job that requires pompous behavior.  I did not mean every moment though. Very interesting! Thanks!

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

quote:

ORIGINAL: subinchico

Yes, I was definitely under the influence, chemically, as re-reading this OP, I see weaknesses abound!
1. First, Sexually submissive is missing from subject/title line.  I'm a dominant, pompous, conceited asshole in public (my occupation calls for it), extreme sub in private (like to be trampled bloody)..
2. Gender should have been left out, or females added to subject/title line.
3. Surviving childhood hardships should have been included in subject/title line.

Its genesis was inspired by the trend of mass intelligence assumed in humans here and on FL vs other sites I play in.
I’ve read only two replies so as I continue I expect some confusion/hostility/bitterness.  I apologize.


I don't know what career demands that someone be a pompus, conceited asshole and I have been in a lot of business in my time.  A man's man's world... tough guys, cut throat business, multi million dollar contracts at my dinner parties and weekend events and all sorts of things.  No where did I see the need for pompus, conceited ass holes... there were some around, but there was no need for them and they typically didn't last long.  There really isn't an excuse for such. 

I have been and worked with many who were abused and had challenging lives.  I don't find two results of such being higher intelligence or submissiveness. 

You can justify anything that you want and think whatever you will, but your reasoning and excuses fall flat on the floor.  And what's with this chemically induced?  You still aren't getting it are you?



stella41b -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/8/2009 7:11:36 PM)

Have they been adding things to Dr Pepper again?



littlewonder -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/8/2009 7:11:43 PM)

wow...just wow...do you truly believe that??

And a job where you are a pompous ass...and are chemically induced?...interesting....

[8|]



Lockit -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/8/2009 7:17:00 PM)

Saying that people on CM are smarter than the rest of society might get some brown nosein and kiss assin done for a couple who are into such things... but doesn't fly for those who are grounded in reality. 

Are you saying that people who don't come out and might be in the closet with what they do, are dumber than those that are out?  Maybe some have family or career that influence things.  Did your data or research consider that?

I think you are filled with fantasy thinking or stinkin thinking and I have to wonder if you are under the influence again tonight.



subinchico -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/8/2009 7:28:41 PM)

Lol, now thats funny!  No need to brown nose in cyber world, unless I was addicted to the WWW, CM and had a lot of free time.  Yes, thats exactly my hypothesis, that people that "come out" may have above average intelect.  Test it yourself and experience other sites on the WWW or maybe just go to the park.

cheers,
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Saying that people on CM are smarter than the rest of society might get some brown nosein and kiss assin done for a couple who are into such things... but doesn't fly for those who are grounded in reality. 

Are you saying that people who don't come out and might be in the closet with what they do, are dumber than those that are out?  Maybe some have family or career that influence things.  Did your data or research consider that?

I think you are filled with fantasy thinking or stinkin thinking and I have to wonder if you are under the influence again tonight.



zzyzx -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/8/2009 7:50:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subinchico
Yes, thats exactly my hypothesis, that people that "come out" may have above average intelect. 


I'm jumping in in the middle of things, but it seems to me that people who come out would be overwhelmingly those who run in the sort of circles where alternative lifestyles are more accepted.   Those circles correlate highly with intellect.

Just as one example, big cities are more accepting.   People with higher aptitude and/or education end up in bigger cities.

Same could be true of careers, social circles, etc.



Lockit -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/8/2009 7:57:22 PM)

Well hell... don't tell the folks on Jerry Springer this stuff... they are all about coming out.. in whatever they do and some of it could be considered alternative lifestyles...lol[sm=fight.gif]



Vanityfull -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/8/2009 8:03:37 PM)

i could see it in the sense that a smarter person would reconise what they want and pursue it, but sadly coming out isnt always a good idea due to various risks, its a very indavidualised thing so if its smart for one person it may be a bad idea for someone else.
it depends also how you view intelligence, wisdom, social skills, education, cunning and much more can all be factors or not factors for different people in messures of intelligence, i think intelligence has too many factors to really messure it versus other people in any real pissing contest, granted we still all do, its just a crock of shit for the most part.



Lockit -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/8/2009 8:09:13 PM)

Just watch housewives of OC, NY or NJ, where they are basically in big cities... well off and very social and tell me how smart they are!  I'd take a country person any day over that kind of smart!



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