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GYPZYQUEEN -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/21/2009 10:26:45 PM)

Dominant women hating men??...submissive men beat to shit as kids..???
this is fukkin ridiculous..
1) the first things I ask a potential sub is  "any medical issues?"
and "were you abused as a child?"
if they were they will not be my sub..for the simple reason I am may be adding to an unhealthy REASON for their submission
AND NOT
A DESIRE to submit to me thru adoration or respect...or a bond

2)I LOVE MEN...I had to process for years before going FWD to make sure I come from a place of  love not hate..wow///


I URGE...men who have been abused to seek help..not BDsM and to see a red flag
if a DOMME does not ask about it


re: intelligence...it is my experiance that very submissive men are usually very intelligent but it has nothing to do with HARDSHIP



SlaveBlutarsky -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/21/2009 10:57:40 PM)

I laugh at the fact that me being a submissive has anything to do with my intelligence. I'm not smarter or deal with things better due to my submission, it's simply because I'm a better person them most people. Duh.

I think everything else has been covered enough so I don't have to say anything serious about this thread.



NihilusZero -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/21/2009 11:05:39 PM)

Sorry. You gotta work for your intellectual gold star just like everyone else.



HollywoodExecDom -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/23/2009 3:56:47 AM)

Right conclusion, wrong reasons...

Factually, higher IQ individuals have a higher predilection for BDSM than the general populations, therefore there are more high IQ BDSM practitioners.

The postulated reason is that high IQ causes people to be more apt for experimentation, get bored more easily, and have a more active fantasy life. All these reasons are at work in causing the effect you state... though I don't know if you can make the claim that this equates to a sliding scale whereas "extremely BDSM" practitioners are more likely to have higher IQs than "moderate BDSM practitioners."

There are psyche studies on this stuff out there if you go looking.



greeneyedreamer -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/23/2009 4:29:54 AM)

Ok Let me see if I understand this, All Masochists have been abused. Is that what you are trying to covey to us?

B. S.



CarrieO -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/23/2009 4:49:00 AM)

Is this question for me or is it fast reply?
I never said any such thing.

edited to add...In fact, I'd love to see someone offer some studies that support the claim of the OP.



SthrnCom4t -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general population. (4/23/2009 7:40:06 AM)

Edited out - Otter absconds with his Lady's user ID yet again!  DOH!  [;)]




OttersSwim -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general population. (4/23/2009 7:47:33 AM)

Zombies...are people who were raised after dying...that must be very traumatic...yea...waking up all dead and stuff...talk about surviving/enduring hardships...that'll build character...yea...

Zombies come out...of the ground...clawing their way to the surface and stuff...yea...

Zombies...eat brains...intelligence...yea...

Therefore...

Zombies must make the best submissives...yea...

[;)]



SinJunky -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/26/2009 1:46:03 AM)

I finally stopped laughing ;)



SinJunky -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/26/2009 1:48:00 AM)

Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and confirm it...



slavekal -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general population. (4/26/2009 7:39:17 AM)

No.  Many of us are complete idiots.



Eraser -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general population. (4/26/2009 7:53:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subinchico
Because, extremely submissive males (i.e. into being beaten bloody, scarred/trampled/broken), survived/endured "hardships" during childhood/adolescence, which built “character” including intellect, even cleverness. I don’t know, just throwing this out there.


Entirely bullshit.  People treated me like shit during childhood/adolescense because I was quiet and kept to myself (ie appeared submissive until I had them on the floor shortly after starting anything) and can safely say anyone who's gone through a similar experience, is not going to be into being beaten.



JstAnotherSub -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/26/2009 8:40:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

The intelligence of females who submit to Lordandmaster is higher than that of the average population because if the others were so smart they'd clearly see the benefits of getting on their knees and sucking me off.


maybe they think yer stuff is comparable to that elephant one.....

just sayin......



JstAnotherSub -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/26/2009 8:48:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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So, yeah. You're right in saying that hardship itself doesn't build character. But it does give people much more opportunity to shape their character, makes for a much more fertile ground for building that character. When it comes to making friends, give me people who've suffered, who've had to overcome some sort of significant obstacles to build a life for themselves. Those are the people I want close to me.



adversity and hard times dont make me any more wonderful to anyone else, but they sure make me a better person to me......much calmer than i was in my youth...

kinda like you survived x, y and z......this aint as bad as you wanna make it....and the people that know me see this calmness now.....as a redheaded taurus i used to be....well.....a bit of a hothead-lolol

so the difficulties made me a better mom, manager, human being in general.....i think anyhow



wisdomofgiving -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general population. (4/26/2009 8:51:46 AM)

I am not sure if that makes an extremely submissive or anything for that matter intelligent. Intelligence to me is a person who lives their life not looking at the past as an ego ticket, but just lessons we learned. Intelligence to me is a person who doesnt need to draw attention to themselves. Intelligence to me is a person who doesnt even bother to wonder if they are intelligent or not, but more on what they have to offer to the Universe and how to offer it.



rains -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/26/2009 8:55:19 AM)

OP- Intelligence is actually a very stable trait across your lifetime. If you are ranked intellectually and found to be lower than average in grade 2, chances are you will be lower than average at 32. I do not believe that being abused, mistreated, having your hair cut repeatedly, ect. will affect your IQ. If i am wrong, by all means show me your sources.

Some abused men are submissive, some are dominant, some are vanilla and likewise for women. I liked the poster who told you to stop trying to justify your submissiveness.



Arillis -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/26/2009 9:02:52 AM)

quote:

There are psyche studies on this stuff out there. I am just an ordinary submissive man instinctively doing extraordinary things brilliantly, ultimately I do not view myself the intellectual giant.



steph89 -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general population. (4/29/2009 10:00:44 PM)

first of all, i'm not certain if there's a correlation between childhood traumas and being an extreme masochist. perhaps, but i don't think anyone here can say for sure. (if someone has seen research suggesting otherwise, please correct me.)

but, beyond that, do childhood traumas build character and intelligence? again i haven't seen research on this, but just going on my own thoughts... i'd say that it probably builds a certain type of intelligence. reading the emotional cues of others would probably be one area, since an awareness of the moods of an abuser would be useful information in order to know how to act in a way that will not provoke them.

i know for myself that my own traumas and adversities inspired me to think long and hard about human nature, interpersonal dynamics, the reasons for people's kindness, cruelty, etc. so this is another way that might be the case.

on the flip side, a childhood in which you experience many traumas could make you so edgy and fearful that it would be hard to concentrate in school.



subinchico -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/13/2011 11:52:59 PM)


Now (a few years later), realize this question is flawed!  In the subject; the fifth word "males" and in the message, the forth word "males", both need to be replaced with the word "humans"!  I did not mean gender specific.

quote:

ORIGINAL: subinchico
Because, extremely submissive males (i.e. into being beaten bloody, scarred/trampled/broken), survived/endured "hardships" during childhood/adolescence, which built “character” including intellect, even cleverness. I don’t know, just throwing this out there.









CalifChick -> RE: Intelligence of extremely submissive males is much higher vs intelligence of the general populat (4/13/2011 11:55:50 PM)

You bumped this turd for THAT?



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