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Eir -> Display (1/27/2006 9:56:14 PM)

I have just had a new expirience that I have to ask some of you about because I think people have diffrent oppinions on this one...

This last evening I attended to a BDSM/Fetish party at my friends house where some of my friends and some that have attended to meetings that I and my friend that helt the party had been having.
After some talking and laughing we decided to take look at some "toys" the people brought with them, my friend that helt the party looked at me and said to one of the guys that were there that he should tie me up... I refused at first but then went along with it... why not?
I got tied up and some nipple clamps were added to see how long I could have them on till I started screaming... I have VERY sensitive nipples by the way ;)
In the begining when that man started tying me up I wasn't sure if I should like it or not because there I was tied to that chair and there were 7/8 persons watching me... felt a bit odd but after a few minuets it was OK... perhaps I was that relaxed about it because I had my friends there and if I had suddenly felt uncomfortable I would have been untied.
I had never been like that befor... I have never been tied up in front of people and it got me thinking because I didn't dislike it... just a little bit uncomfortable at the begining because I wasn't sure of myself.
At the end my nipples were getting sore and I said that I wanted to get out of this soon and they said if I could untie me then I could take them right of and if I couldn't I had to keep them on for 10 more minuets... after some concideration I started trying to untie me... after 10 minuets I had gotten myself loose ;) And got those darn clamps of...
... For those who are wondering how long I lasted with the clamps on it was 50 minuets ;)

But my Question is... I have to have it on two parts because of the dom and sub/slave view of things ;)

Subs/slaves : Have you ever been up for display and if you have how did it feel during and afterwards?

Dommes : Have you ever put your sub/slaves up for display and if you have what were you thinking?

Care. Eir



truesub4u -> RE: Display (1/27/2006 11:05:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Eir


Subs/slaves : Have you ever been up for display and if you have how did it feel during and afterwards?




I have been put on display.... dressed... nude... inbetween. First time.. i was so embarrassed i about cried.

After awhile I got use to it and it never bothered me.

I was 15 years younger then too... if t o happen again today....afterbeing out of the life for awhile.. and just getting back in again... i think i would be highly embarrassed all over again. And having to work through all that again.



Focus50 -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 3:04:24 AM)

To me, there's a certain "ick" factor involved with what you've described but if you're comfortable enough with what happened, esp to a point where you'd do it again now you have some experience of what's involved, then why not?

Personally, I don't "do" my girl in front of strangers or "semi" strangers but that's not to say I haven't played a little with another couple that happened to be friends anyway.

The trouble with being the object on display in front of a larger group is that safety boundaries can become a little blurred when eager audiences are egging things along. The one tying you up had obligations and responsibilies toward your well-being and I find it alarming that you actually had to escape the bonds in order to remove clamps that were on wayyyy too long. What were these idiots thinking???

I rarely leave nipple clamps on for longer than 15mins; 20 tops! 50 mins could well have left you with a serious toxic shock reaction (when blood is prevented from circulating then is suddenly released). This is why it's recommended to release tourniquets at regular intervals despite the separate trauma it may be used to treat.... Blood poisoning is just as deadly as a snake bite or severe blood loss.

In public, I've occasionally pulled my girl into line in front of other lifestylers but anything intimate such as play or esp exposing her private bits is solely for my viewing pleasure.

Focus.



IronBear -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 4:33:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Eir

I have just had a new expirience that I have to ask some of you about because I think people have diffrent oppinions on this one...

This last evening I attended to a BDSM/Fetish party at my friends house where some of my friends and some that have attended to meetings that I and my friend that helt the party had been having.
After some talking and laughing we decided to take look at some "toys" the people brought with them, my friend that helt the party looked at me and said to one of the guys that were there that he should tie me up... I refused at first but then went along with it... why not?
I got tied up and some nipple clamps were added to see how long I could have them on till I started screaming... I have VERY sensitive nipples by the way ;)
In the begining when that man started tying me up I wasn't sure if I should like it or not because there I was tied to that chair and there were 7/8 persons watching me... felt a bit odd but after a few minuets it was OK... perhaps I was that relaxed about it because I had my friends there and if I had suddenly felt uncomfortable I would have been untied.
I had never been like that befor... I have never been tied up in front of people and it got me thinking because I didn't dislike it... just a little bit uncomfortable at the begining because I wasn't sure of myself.
At the end my nipples were getting sore and I said that I wanted to get out of this soon and they said if I could untie me then I could take them right of and if I couldn't I had to keep them on for 10 more minuets... after some concideration I started trying to untie me... after 10 minuets I had gotten myself loose ;) And got those darn clamps of...
... For those who are wondering how long I lasted with the clamps on it was 50 minuets ;)

But my Question is... I have to have it on two parts because of the dom and sub/slave view of things ;)

Subs/slaves : Have you ever been up for display and if you have how did it feel during and afterwards?

Dommes : Have you ever put your sub/slaves up for display and if you have what were you thinking?

Care. Eir


Under the circumstances you describe, there is no way I would do this to any girl of mine period. Why? Simply because it would not please me to do so. However, I have no hesitation top having a kajira naked or at the max wearing nothing but a shirik and serving guests if they were lifestyle guests and particularly Gorean guests. The Goreans would not bat an eyelid (if they did my estimation of their being Gorean Lifestylers would need reassessing), and would know that this was an acceptable mode of dress, especially if I wasn't expecting their own slaves to dress in a similar mode. I might add, I would have no hesitation in having any kajira or kajirus of the House Iron Bear, wearing naught but a shirik whilst at our local club either. Something like showing them off like I would at a dog show with a champion dog (something I used to do when breeding and showing Afghan Hounds, but they didn't wear shiriks [:D]).



MstrssPassion -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 5:00:07 AM)

Focus50 & IronBear both made comments that I agree with.

1) those clamps were on way too long if they were a tight fitting set.

I'm not assuming that they were mashing your nipples flat if they were on 50 minutes. I would guess that they were a set of clamps that were either adjustable or just didn't have a real bite to them.

2) no sub of mine is going to be placed in a position of being displayed since it would not please me.

I have engaged in public play from time to time but I have stopped scenes when I felt as those the observers were sucking the energy out of our session. I wasn't a circus seal performing for their pleasure.

As a final comment based on years of speaking with many people from many walks of life... many people have a fantasy of being placed on display. I couldn't list the number of men who have told me that they would love to be tied up naked for me in a room full of my female friends. I have known many submissives, male & female that were absolute attention junkies. They truly got off on being put out on display.

It is good to experiment & find out things we enjoy when we had no clue we would ever enjoy them.

Keep experimenting, but be safe while doing so. If you aren't sure about what is going on or what the pros & cons are of a certain activity.... stop it & ask questions. If the questions are answered & you feel comfortable with the answer given, fine, but it is always good to get more than one opinion when you have no opinion of your own.



IronBear -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 5:07:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

I couldn't list the number of men who have told me that they would love to be tied up naked for me in a room full of my female friends.


Strangely, I have found that most Male Strippers, when asked to do small shows and do a full strip for a group of females (The full strip is illegal here for males BTW), they found it difficult to get an errection on demand. A couple of male escorts I know quite well, have said the same thing.... I have a few theories as to why this is but it needs more research over time. Something I am discussing with a couple of Psychologists in Sydney.



MstrssPassion -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 5:15:07 AM)

Well, since I have always said what was on my mind... I'll post a comment about male strippers.

Most of these strippers are gay. I know this because when I managed a night club I had most every national male revue show traveling around the country through my doors. They had each other for arousal as well as their little boy-toy fluffers back in the dressing room. I also know many male strippers from my involvement with the gay community.

When these gay strippers are faced with private shows it is harder to get the proper wanking they would need for the erection. Many have started using Viagra to assist in this area.

Now before some hunky male stripper steps up & professes his heterosexuality let me stress that I said most, not all.



IronBear -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 5:25:49 AM)

Most of the male strippers I know (I used to help a mate run a strip and adult floorshow agency as well as having known a number of the guys from Perth WA when my 2nd wife was one of the top strippers) as well as the "G-String" waiters, are either hetro or bisexual. To be fair, in a situation of their own choosing I understand most of them believed they were studds or walking hardons. It appears that their problems arise when in a paying situation with unknown women. Still we're on the same track anyway and some day it may be fun to swap tales from the dressing rooms.



MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 6:24:45 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50
The trouble with being the object on display in front of a larger group is that safety boundaries can become a little blurred when eager audiences are egging things along. The one tying you up had obligations and responsibilies toward your well-being and I find it alarming that you actually had to escape the bonds in order to remove clamps that were on wayyyy too long. What were these idiots thinking???

I agree with Focus. here. This "Dom" had an obligation to your safty that he discarded because of this "pack" mentality. I see nothing wrong with objectification like this but to leave those clamps on and then tell you to get yourself loose if you want them off is blatant disreguard for you. I'd think a little harder next time, if I were you eir. This group does not seem to be the safest for you to run with.



JohnWarren -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 6:36:05 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Eir
Dommes : Have you ever put your sub/slaves up for display and if you have what were you thinking?

Care. Eir


In a week, I'll be at Sinsations in Chicago. One of my presentations will be "Bringing out the Inner Exhibitionist" and as part of the demo segment I'll be doing a "knife stripping" where I slowly cut the submissive's clothes off until she's completely naked.

Also on my website, there is a short story called "I'm Shy" that talks about this sort of scene. As with many of the stories on the site, it was based on an actual incident.



Jewelry -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 6:58:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnWarren


In a week, I'll be at Sinsations in Chicago. One of my presentations will be "Bringing out the Inner Exhibitionist" and as part of the demo segment I'll be doing a "knife stripping" where I slowly cut the submissive's clothes off until she's completely naked.


No one has to bring out the exhibitionist in me...but I'll play along ;)




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 7:32:41 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Eir
Subs/slaves : Have you ever been up for display and if you have how did it feel during and afterwards?

Look up "objecitifcation" and see what you come up with.

Yes- I find it a glorious amazing overwhelming experience. But then I'm an exhibitionist who gets off on being objectified.
quote:


Dommes : Have you ever put your sub/slaves up for display and if you have what were you thinking?

Care. Eir

Foremost I was thinking that I wanted to see how my boy dealt with the situation and what submissive enjoyment he might receive. Otherwise I was getting my exhibitionist juices flowing.

Experience and experiment, figure out what you do and don't really like as you go. And trust me, if you ever start a question with "Does anyone else...?" the answer is always YES.



Sensualips -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 10:00:36 AM)

I like being on display. I like people paying attention to me. There are some situations where it is less comfortable or more intimidating. There are a few times I might not be into it, based on the surroundings and people present. But generally speaking I get a thrill out of it, especially if I am connecting with the person directing me. Sometimes I may really get into a scene and look up at the end and notice there are WAY more people watching than I realized. The first time or two that happened, it flustered me but now I enjoy that rush also. I might even be slightly disappointed if no one WANTED to watch me, though I don't focus on that. The exhibitionism is just an extra perk.

And yes, I have put people on display - showed them off. Typically this is with a person I KNOW gets the same kind of thrill as I, or a different type of humiliation thrill. I am all jazzed up for a demo/party tonight I am going to with a friend of mine. She agreed to be my bitch for the night and I have all sorts of delicious ideas for her. I know her well enough to know she will LOVE it.



IronBear -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 10:25:45 AM)

I enjoy exhibitionism, under the right conditions, I would have no hesitation on having a girl displayed naked with all of he exposed and work her over with both hands, fingers and tongue until she was screaming to be fucked. Then after making her wait and being unsure who I was going to have do her, take her myself….



DelightMachine -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 10:47:44 AM)

quote:

Subs/slaves : Have you ever been up for display and if you have how did it feel during and afterwards?


I'm a male submissive, and Sensuallips comments are almost exactly how I feel about it. I've also been surprised when I'm in a scene in a public play area to see right afterward that a lot of people were watching us. I'm usually completely enthralled during the scene, overwhelmed by what's happening to me and by the intimacy with the dominant. My experience is limited, and maybe if I were positioned where I were forced to see the other people watching us, it would make a big difference.

My experience getting naked in scenes has been almost entirely in front of strangers -- or with only a few people who I knew who were there. I imagine the feelings that would be brought up in a small group with people you know would be both less intense in some ways (the focus on the dominant) but more intense in others (the humiliation I suppose would be increased). I'd love to get more into that situation. You never know just what it will feel like until you do.

But I've had hints, and they've been fun. I'll never forget the thrill I got after one scene in front of a lot of people. A week later, a woman I knew (a somewhat shy submissive) came up to me and in a nice way told me she really enjoyed that scene, and really enjoyed watching me. Immediately after that same scene, a dominant woman who had been in a group that my then-owner and I had dinner with actually clapped a few times when I went over to put my clothes on. That was sweet of her.

My suggestion: Whenever you can, try to explore those things that make you uncomfortable, at least if the dominant you're with can be trusted to pull back when you get uncomfortable. What you wrote makes me wonder if that was the case in the episode you described. But overall, exploration opens up a lot of new pleasures you can repeat, and the bad episodes don't need to be repeated -- so the explorers get more out of BDSM.




Petruchio -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 11:41:24 AM)

I have directed scenes in front of others (6-12 people), but I've never put anyone I cared about on display.

The closest was a girl who had been coming on to me for weeks even though she had a boyfriend and I had a girlfriend. At a party, my girlfriend and I sneaked off to a bedroom for some feelie time and this girl came in and went right for me. My girlfriend yanked off the girl's clothes. (She was braless, but I think she had panties.) Her squeals brought a few others into the room. My girlfriend, little witch that she was, took the girl's clothes and left with them! Her boyfriend was in the other room, and I have no idea what excuse she gave him, but personally I think she got off on the attention.

A friend of mine was the wife of a local executive. She was very submissive and quietly attended a couple of dungeon events. She never took part in the displays, but she confided she secretly wanted to. Years later, she divorced and she ended up being a guinea pig for sexual research at the local university, so in a way she got her wish.



RiotGirl -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 12:24:44 PM)

Being that i've only read parts of this thread, i still want to add my two cents! One of my favorite stunts when i was 18 was throwing myself on display! though it was reckless and probably illegal.. i used to get SUCH a kick out of it. My good buddy would drive.. down the highway.. usually later at night.. and i'd strip naked and pop out the moon roof to some poor unsuspecting male motorist we pulled up to drive alongisde! i swear their jaws would hit the FLOOR. And i would of course die laughing!

yes its very lucky we didnt cause any accidents. But atleast my buddy was smart enough to do it late enough at night where there was very few ppl on the road = )

Since then, i've tamed down alittle bit, but still have that bad habit of stripping naked in a public place because others have asked me. Though as i've matured, i try and keep my stripping to those who ask! And i've learned to make sure that the man i am dating is okay with it.. LOL <sigh> my stick in the mud boyfriends who'd have a cow.

Lets see the last time was in a shopping mall parking lot. Surrounded by friends, ppl i didnt know and generally a big group as we had just gotten back from drag racing. Luckily Master was there, gave permission and didnt mind = )

Hmmmm and does putting on display, does it count when you get out of a club, and are just chilling on the corner and ppl are standing around taking pictures of you asking you to get naked? Though i only posed i didnt strip. But thats cos they got alittle pushy and too much inside my3 foot square of space.



JohnWarren -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 2:04:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jewelry
No one has to bring out the exhibitionist in me...but I'll play along ;)


My friend, Carol Queen, does a presentation called Exhibitionism for the Shy (she has a book of the same name) and she's found that one of the big problems is to keep the exhibitionists out of the audience so the truely shy will have their chance.



Petruchio -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 3:10:00 PM)

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Being that i've only read parts of this thread…


Shame on you, Riot! Your comments were completely inappropriate for this discusson on religious art in the 16th century.

(P.S. Send photos!)



IrishMist -> RE: Display (1/28/2006 3:28:31 PM)

quote:

Subs/slaves : Have you ever been up for display and if you have how did it feel during and afterwards?


Yep. The first time was embarassing but his smile was more than enough to get me past that; and after...Mmmmmmmmmm let's just say that he was so pleased I got a special treat [8D]



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