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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 1/30/2006 9:40:03 PM   
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Saw was an excellent movie, I haven't seen the second one yet, but I really want to.


February 14th Saw 2 hits the stores. It's worth a look.

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 1/31/2006 3:28:47 PM   
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the dames "I" have been around all watch the chick flicks


Now THERE's horror movies for guys!

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 1/31/2006 10:19:17 PM   
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I used to sit and watch Saturday afternoon TV and there was a local guy out of Philly who called himself Doctor Shock. He had Creature Feature and Horror Theater.


OMG...I remember that...only it came on Saturday nights at 11:30 after the local news for us. It may have been a rebroadcast from Bob Wilkin's Creature Feature in Sacramento though that we were getting in upstate NY. Hmmmm that brings back fond memories of a lot of bumping and grinding going on on my parents living room floor with the tv volumn turned up....tee hee

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 1/31/2006 10:36:55 PM   
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I used to sit and watch Saturday afternoon TV and there was a local guy out of Philly who called himself Doctor Shock. He had Creature Feature and Horror Theater.

OMG...I remember that...only it came on Saturday nights at 11:30 after the local news for us. It may have been a rebroadcast from Bob Wilkin's Creature Feature in Sacramento though that we were getting in upstate NY. Hmmmm that brings back fond memories of a lot of bumping and grinding going on on my parents living room floor with the tv volumn turned up....tee hee

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well talking about creature features
we had,,,past tense

the acry(acree?) creature feature each weekend--they sponsored aluminum siding....
but they went out of business all too quick

and yes

back BEFORE cable...we had 4 stations...
cbs=2
nbc=7
abc=9
and
12/32 was ipbn IF you could GET vhf/uhf...

and all in living black and white


oh the good ole days


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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/1/2006 2:08:40 AM   
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I also have a fascination with Serial Killers. I collected and read hundreds of books but sold them all when my kids began to get older.

The best Horror film of all time is The Pianist. You don't need pure gore to feel such ferocity towards human kind. As for gore...... Jeepers Creepers is my favourite, part 2.

Serial Killers? The sickest f*cks of all time in my mind were the despicable duo Fred and Rosemary West, homegrown here in England. May they rot in Lucifers molten well until their screams join those of their victims.

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/1/2006 7:40:26 AM   
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Interestingly lass, when it first came our in Perth Western Australia, it was necessary to have the St Johns Ambulance Brigade at the theater to give aid to those who were freakig out following the movie. I agreed at the time with other people in the know, that this movie shouldn't have been available to the general public. We have several suicides and more suicide attempts directly attributed ti the movie. My take? It is/was just a bitt to close to realism for my taste (A comment based on personal experience).


Wow, they had to have people there for medical reasons?

I do agree with the belief that this movie should not have been released to the general public, only because of the underlying 'evil' intonations that it carries.

As for it being too close to realism...I could not answer that...I do not follow the catholic doctrine of possession...and have never seen anything that would come even close to this.

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/1/2006 7:41:00 AM   
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I know one thing, the TV industry botched the return of THE NIGHT STALKER, miscasting Karl Kolchak and setting too much of it during the daytime.

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/1/2006 7:42:58 AM   
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LOL Gauge, I think most of us watched those Saturday afternoon monster movies lol. I still remember the first time they put 'I was a teenage werewolf' on there.

Ahhh...the good ole days...those movies were worth watching

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/1/2006 8:06:37 AM   
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They generally screw up all serial killer movies. I have yet to see one that even comes close to following what really happened. Sometimes the truth is scarier then fiction, but Hollywood hasn't figured that out yet.
They can't make a serial killer be the guy next door, or the lonely woman down the street. They have to make them mentally ill (which often isn't the case), stupid (which is never the case) or something else to try to "explain" the killings. Often there is no why, they just kill because they want to or because they feel the need to do so. There are cases where the killer is what we would consider "ill" or "sick" but they have no disease that is diagnosable, they just aren't the same as the people who don't kill. Silence of the Lambs is the closest that it comes, and not because of Buffolo Bill.
If people were to actually read the actual accounts of these serial killers they would laugh at the follishness of the movies.

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/2/2006 2:14:45 PM   
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When I saw the exorcist as a wee tyke, I was totally relaxed, which provided a different experience. Two or three times I saw a frame inserted into the film, one of them being a skull that flashed in front of Blair whats-er-name's head. In other words, they were using subliminal projection.

My brother was the only other person I know who noticed this too.


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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/3/2006 5:04:03 AM   
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They generally screw up all serial killer movies. I have yet to see one that even comes close to following what really happened. Sometimes the truth is scarier then fiction, but Hollywood hasn't figured that out yet.
They can't make a serial killer be the guy next door, or the lonely woman down the street. They have to make them mentally ill (which often isn't the case), stupid (which is never the case) or something else to try to "explain" the killings. Often there is no why, they just kill because they want to or because they feel the need to do so. There are cases where the killer is what we would consider "ill" or "sick" but they have no disease that is diagnosable, they just aren't the same as the people who don't kill. Silence of the Lambs is the closest that it comes, and not because of Buffolo Bill.
If people were to actually read the actual accounts of these serial killers they would laugh at the follishness of the movies.


Not necessarily...Helter Skelter was pretty good...the original...though I tend to look at it as a serial killer movie, not sure that it was classified as such.


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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/3/2006 5:05:23 AM   
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You know Petruchio, it was not until they did the new one with the deleted scenes that I noticed the flashing skull on the refrigirator. I had to watch it two more times to make sure that I had seen it lol.

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/5/2006 10:53:08 AM   
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Vampyre Movies I adore, even the bad ones,


Master IronBear, do you remember the original german production of Count Dracula? I watched it a couple times, but I can not remember who played the lead role ( and no, it was not Lugosi ). The only channel I remember them ever putting it on was PBS and it was a long movie, about 4 hours. I am just curious, as I have tried to find it since then, and can't.

I simply adore horror movies, and serial killer documentaries ( movies when they manage to actually get it accurate ).


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The only movie that still gives me nightmares to this day is The Exorcist.


While the Exorcist was a good reference for what demonic possession could possibly be, I also found it to be a bit too 'made up'. Yes, I do believe in demonic possession, but the way the movie protrayed it, I found to be just unrealistic. ( Though, this could be because I practice witchcraft, so my beliefs on demons and possession are quite different than those of the Church ) One movie I found to be more realistic in terms of what possession could be portrayed as was Possessed.

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One of the recent thoughtful horror movies is Saw


You are correct in this assessment Gauge. The Saw movies were excellent. Another good one from the standpoint of 'being made to think about your predictiment' was Phonebooth.

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I know one thing, the TV industry botched the return of THE NIGHT STALKER, miscasting Karl Kolchak and setting too much of it during the daytime.


I have seen this movie several times. If I may ask a question? I was always under the assumption that The Night Stalker was really about Jack The Ripper? If my assumption is correct, then they botched that whole movie completly. If I am wrong though, please feel free to correct me.

Serial Killer movies, I have yet to see one that is an accurate depiction. I have found though that the books are usually quite accurate.

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/6/2006 9:18:20 AM   
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The movie The Night Stalker was based on Richard Ramirez, aka The Night Stalker. He was a serial killer and rapist in Los Angeles County in the mid 80's (1985 to 1986 if I am not mistaken). They called him the Night Stalker because he always attacked at night (yay for newspaper and media creativity).
On an interesting note, he was married in prison to a woman by the name of Doreen Lioy in 1996.

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/6/2006 9:19:31 AM   
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Helter Skelter was a good one. I wasn't saying that they screw up all the serial killer movies, just most of them.

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/6/2006 11:27:22 AM   
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Vampyre Movies I adore, even the bad ones,


Master IronBear, do you remember the original german production of Count Dracula? I watched it a couple times, but I can not remember who played the lead role ( and no, it was not Lugosi ). The only channel I remember them ever putting it on was PBS and it was a long movie, about 4 hours. I am just curious, as I have tried to find it since then, and can't.


G'day lass, Yep I do remember that movie but for the life of me I can't remember the name of it.

Two recent ones I did enjoy and are on my must buy the dvd list are:
"Interview With a Vampire"
&
"Queen of The Damned"

Late nights on Foxtel they are running the "Forever Night" series which I am enjopying again.


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The only movie that still gives me nightmares to this day is The Exorcist.


While the Exorcist was a good reference for what demonic possession could possibly be, I also found it to be a bit too 'made up'. Yes, I do believe in demonic possession, but the way the movie protrayed it, I found to be just unrealistic. ( Though, this could be because I practice witchcraft, so my beliefs on demons and possession are quite different than those of the Church ) One movie I found to be more realistic in terms of what possession could be portrayed as was Possessed.



Most Pagans have a different and oft a more practical view of possession and excorcism that the Roman Catholic Church. However I have had the privilage when living the Weatern Australia to assist a good friend who was a Jesuit and an Exorcist in several exorcisms. In some ways we taught each other our different techniques in the years following.




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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/7/2006 8:40:33 AM   
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The movie The Night Stalker was based on Richard Ramirez, aka The Night Stalker. He was a serial killer and rapist in Los Angeles County in the mid 80's (1985 to 1986 if I am not mistaken). They called him the Night Stalker because he always attacked at night (yay for newspaper and media creativity).
On an interesting note, he was married in prison to a woman by the name of Doreen Lioy in 1996.


Why thank you. I don't know why I was always under the impression that it was about Jack the Ripper

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G'day lass, Yep I do remember that movie but for the life of me I can't remember the name of it.


I, too, can not remember the actual name of it either. All I know is that it was not called Dracula, lol. I just wish I could remember who played the lead role, that would make finding it so much easier. For some reason, I keep thinking it was George something, but I know that is not right.

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Two recent ones I did enjoy and are on my must buy the dvd list are:
"Interview With a Vampire"
&
"Queen of The Damned"


Interview with a Vampire was interesting, though I enjoyed the book much more. I will give credit though, it very closely followed the book. I was very pleasantly surprised with Queen of the Damned. I watched it, not expecting to like it at all, and was very nicely surprised. They did an excellent job on that.

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/7/2006 5:33:32 PM   
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You have to admitt that the lass who stared in Queen of the Damned (Alaya dec), would have looked great in a collar.. Definately a red silk if not a pure pleasure slave.... Ohh well one can but dream and drool at the immages.....

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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/7/2006 9:48:52 PM   
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I have a facination with serial killers



I know, it's sick


Yeah, but you're not the only one. I've got several shelves in my library filled with true murder/serial killer crime books. Oddly enough, though I know a bit about Ed Gein, I've never actually read his story. I should do that.


Oh... one really messed up, weird movie - The Devil's Rejects. Master and I watched it last weekend.


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RE: Who likes horror movies? - 2/7/2006 9:54:06 PM   
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Interview with a Vampire was interesting, though I enjoyed the book much more. I will give credit though, it very closely followed the book. I was very pleasantly surprised with Queen of the Damned. I watched it, not expecting to like it at all, and was very nicely surprised. They did an excellent job on that.


I thought Queen of the Damned was one of the WORST films I've ever seen. It bore very little resemblance to the book, which was one of the BEST Anne Rice books I've read.

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