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what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 4:22:28 AM   
NormalOutside


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Status: offline 		Hello, this popped into my mind, as it has in the past. I'm most interested in hearing from female submissives, but everybody is certainly welcome to reply.

What aspect of yourself, or what trait do you possess, "makes" you submissive? This could and should be at least slightly different for everyone, and it doesn't have to be typical or normal or acceptable or whatever. I'm just interested in hearing the truth, if you're able.

I hope everyone's having a great weekend.

(Legal jargon: Yes, I'm aware this has been discussed before, here and elsewhere, but what hasn't at this point? I'm interested in hearing the replies of current people in real time. )


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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 4:35:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		No trait "makes" me submissive, but as a slave the trait that is probably most outstanding in me is the craving to take care of things.  That includes people, fixing things around the house, keeping things orderly, etc.  I am most comfortable when others around me are comfortable, and I like things to be just right. 



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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 4:55:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Though I am not female, my submissiveness is wrapped up in my desire to please others. I receive a great deal of pleasure from the pleasing of others.

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 5:03:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Being submissive is itself a core aspect or trait of my personality.  It would be like asking what makes me have a sense of humor, what makes me intelligent, what makes me spiritual.

There are plenty of people who just don't "get" my sense of humor and when I say something I think funny or witty and they just stare at me like I have some mental defect, I feel pretty crappy, but when people "get it" and we laugh together, it is a joyful moment!

So it is for me with my submissive trait.  When I am with someone who "gets it" it is joyful!

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 5:44:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		what makes me the submissive that i am?

simply being my normal "stubborn, aggressive, independent, opinionated, etc etc etc" self 

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 6:10:06 AM   
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My slave nature is a concept within that is reactionary to dominance and mastery of a Man who is capable of compelling it. It is selective but not a conscious controlled selection, but a reactionary instinctive selection of instinct to a Man who has the "actionary" concept in his nature. i could feel dislike or even hate for a Man but if he has the nature of mastery and dominance that i react too, i will react as slave to same. This doesn't mean i will be obedient -- it means my whole body will react as slave to him and he would because of my nature he compels be capable of mastering me -- maybe not easily lol but i am incapable of controlling the slave and her reactions and instincts to a will stronger than my own and the mastery and will to enslave by a Man capable of doing same with regard to me. Its an instinct. I don't have this reaction to women. And not all Men are capable of obtaining this reaction from me.

This is why its a core nature within me, not a trait as my personality in general and on its own does not reflect what many people believe being a slave is.

angel

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 7:16:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		In all aspects of my life, i defer to others - because i think they know what they are talking about. It seems to have been drilled into me at a very young age that the powers that be are always right, know what they are doing, and need to just get on with it.

Logically, i know this isn't so, but if i am with someone who states catagorically that the world isn't a sphere, i would probably research the matter before calling foul. Yes, this has got me in trouble before, when the authoritive person was wrong and i acted on bad intel. but what can I do? Its the way i am hardwired. I find myself a little less gulible now i am on the "wrong" side of 50, but i still get zinged at work sometimes.

Anyway - its hard to be the leader when you think the other is right, and you are wrong. *sigh* its hard to be behind.  

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 7:38:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not submissive in every aspect of my life.  It is a trait that manifests only in my intimate relationships and in that context, it fulfills me. 

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 7:40:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is this another slaviest slave thread?

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 7:48:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		My DNA.
My environment.
My upbringing.
My education.

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 7:52:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		It will be if the readers can't see individuality as a concept of being instead of a concept of competition and secretly feels envious or threatened by what someone else feels is their core. To me, those who don't get how individualistic this concept is to each person will see this thread as the slaviest slave thread. Others, may simply see it as insight as to how people view themselves. Just because one says i don't see myself as A, B, and C, and another person does means its a competition, it simply means as individuals there are differences to their core understandings of themselves.

Personally, i think this could be an interesting insightful thread for many people worried about what everyone else thinks as to submission and slavery, to show what people believe is the core of what makes them a slave in some cases or a submissive in others or both in even others. To show it is individualistic and everyone approaches it different for different understandinsg of themselves on a core level. I expect everyone's answers will be slightly different and a little bit the same. And that individuality lives within all these aspects of how people understand themselves.

The choice will be each reader of course.

angel

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 8:11:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Is this another slaviest slave thread?


i couldn't help but laugh.  It made me think of  the term "twue slave."

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 8:24:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Is this another slaviest slave thread?


Well, where did that come from???  I suppose if that is how you wish to read into the question or responses you can make it out to be whatever you want.  As Barelynangel pointed out, a discussion doesn’t need to be a competition. 
Different isn’t <better than> or <worse than>.  It’s just different and that is what makes life interesting. 


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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 8:26:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		my core submissive aspect or trait is my craving and need to please others.  Out of that one thing flows my need to serve and to do for Him, to surrender my will, my ability to do things i never thought possible for me & to push my limits, my drive to do well and everything else.  All that being said, i have always known i was submissive, although i have not always known what it was called or where it came from.

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 8:27:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I tend to be someone who automatically serves others especially friends and family. I tend to go out of my way if i can to make things easier for other people. Last year a coworker at work was ill and she really shouldn't have been at work but she was. She and I had lunch together that day and i sat eating watching her try to get her soup in the mircowave, she got the lid off but as she went to the garbage can she started tipping the can of soup over, if i hadn't have stood up and taken it from her she'd have ended up with soup all over the floor. I took her lunch and made her sit while I cooked it for her. As a kid every time my mom's back went out I became the nurse, at ten or eleven i'd be taking care of her instead of playing, Master gets the brunt of that now when his sugars go down the nurse comes out and is a bit more authorative than i normally am.

I like serving and actually get frustrated when I can't find something to do to serve Master, I actually get a small thrill when he tells me to get him food or allows me time to work on a project i'm doing for him because it fills that need to serve.

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 8:44:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: catize

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Is this another slaviest slave thread?


Well, where did that come from???  I suppose if that is how you wish to read into the question or responses you can make it out to be whatever you want.  As Barelynangel pointed out, a discussion doesn’t need to be a competition. 
Different isn’t <better than> or <worse than>.  It’s just different and that is what makes life interesting. 



From all the other slaveyslaveyslaveslave threads, I think.

I suppose I could always go ahead and answer the question.

I have no idea..

I'm not exactly caring- I do the whole medical thing, but I like my patients quiet and comatose.

I'm not much of a people pleaser.. .it's not that I'm rude, I just don't feel a need to make everyone happy. I did, when I was younger, but thankfully grew out of that.

There's no core drive that makes me miserable when not attached to a dominant person, nothing that makes me submit because someone has a personality type.

I do it because it makes me happy.... and he likes it too. 

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 9:21:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I barely have any grasp on this concept in myself so far. I look back over my life and I guess things stand out. I was always so happy when what I did was helpful, inspiring, enjoyed and just devestated to disappoint, upset, or get in the way. Always. I have gotten to the point in my life that I realize sometimes other peoples expectations and needs of me do not mesh well with things I deem more important. I have made some choices along the way that seemed radical, inappropriate, or downright wrong to others and, though I mourned their discomfort and my inability to make it better, I had to go forward with what I knew were better choices in the long and short run for me and my family. This is never easy, but I have to put myself aside and act with conscious and determination.

I am not as service oriented as I would like to be. I like taking care of people, but I am no good at seeing the needs without them being pointed out. I also have limited physical resources to do the more standard things like cooking, cleaning, and looking after. I can do more when it is a mental task (such as research or making contacts), but this area is not as I wish it to be.

I respond to power deeply. Being pulled over when driving scares me to death even when I know I was doing nothing wrong. I hated being called to the principal's office. Bullies could run me over easily. I am just a wuss when it comes to standing up, mouthing off, and defending myself. In most contexts, this spells trouble. The world is a place that requires those actions. It is usually someone else that comes to my defense and I am appreciative of their help. I can and have stood on my own, but it is a drain to me like nothing I have ever known. It is very against my nature.

I do not need anyone to give my submission to. It is given in little ways every day in those things for which I am responsible. I enjoy having a concentrated center where all these things seem to merge together, but it is not necessary. I am complete as is. Submissiveness is a part of the complete whole.

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 10:13:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hehe - i understand where you are coming from, Lovingpet - authority figures scare me also. Cops, doctors and so on. I am a nurse and I get whitecoat hypertension when i go tho the doc. Sounds silly -and it is, but  thats just the way i'm wired.

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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 10:55:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		i suppose at some point there is a "core", but i don't feel a need to be overly analytical about it.  A lot of my personality traits are developed over time, and some are drawn from experiences that my subconscious may have (kindly) hidden. 

i just know that it feels "right" in my romantic relationships for me to follow, and for Him to lead.  When i don't have the D/s dynamic, i feel a void. Do i feel a need to  please people?  Yes.  But not EVERYONE.  i am more often a tough chick that will put someone in their place rather quickly if they try to cross me...but the release i feel when i am allowed to be in the submissive mindset is such a delight.





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RE: what is your core submissive aspect or trait? - 4/4/2009 10:55:21 AM   
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Hehe - i understand where you are coming from, Lovingpet - authority figures scare me also. Cops, doctors and so on. I am a nurse and I get whitecoat hypertension when i go tho the doc. Sounds silly -and it is, but  thats just the way i'm wired.


How do you deal with this issue when working around docs all the time in your job?  I guess I'm opposite in my dealings with doctors.  I have no fear of them when I'm the patient because I'm the customer (their boss), so I can fire them, and also because I've had to advocate for a number of those who are close to me, as well as myself, in a variety of medical settings.  I have an intense dislike/hatred for cops because I had a horrible experience with one when I was 13 and because of a recent incident. 






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