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JRiddle -> Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 10:02:54 AM)

I have read many discussions about what is "Safe, Sane, Consensual (SSC)" and what is "Risk Aware Consensual Kink (RACK)". For some reason, I am unable to see the difference between the two concepts. BDSM is never without risk or completely safe.. Sanity is what we try to convince the vanilla people. We all mitigate the risks, choose what level of risk is acceptable, and provide consent for some fun.

Can someone please explain how SSC and RACK are different?




InTonguesslut -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 10:07:12 AM)

For me the difference is all in the words. In ssc you are stating what you do is safe and sane. With rack you are claiming to be aware of the risks you are taking.
This is why i follow rack, many of the things i do are not safe or sane. [:D]




Rover -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 10:13:11 AM)

For what it's worth, I wrote the following a few years back. 
 
John


SSC and RACK
 
 
What are they and what do they mean?
 
Both SSC and RACK serve a dual purpose.  First they act as a guideline for us to engage in (relatively) safe B/D S/M play.  Secondarily, they are a “public relations” slogan to counter a generally sensationalist view of BDSM portrayed in the media (and held by the public at large) as “crazed predators, partaking in ghoulish activities and preying upon unwilling victims”.
 
Both SSC and RACK are acronyms.  SSC stands for “Safe, Sane and Consensual” while RACK refers to “Risk Aware Consensual Kink”.  The basic tenets of each are as follows:
 
 
SSC
 
What constitutes safe and sane differs from individual to individual, based upon their knowledge and experience level, preparation, emotional state of mind, physical limitations, etc.  In this way, it is relative to each individual, rather than an absolute that is the same for everyone.  The constituent components of SSC are:
 
Safe:  SSC implies that individuals participate in “safe” activities (understanding that no activity, even crossing the street, is without risk).  As extreme (and hopefully obvious) examples, death and dismemberment would not be considered “safe” activities.  Even “edge play” (the more “extreme” B/D S/M activities) can (and should) be practiced so as to mitigate risk to (personally) acceptable levels.
 
SSC also requires that individuals remain within their level of knowledge and experience in order for an activity to be “safe” (ie: pilots may safely fly planes, but I do not have the training to do so).  It is not safe for all people to engage in every B/D S/M activity, because they may not all have the same abilities, training, or experience as others.
 
Where’s that line drawn between safe and unsafe?  It differs from individual to individual (ie: it is relative to those in the scene) and activity to activity (ie: experience and training in each specific B/D S/M activity).
 
Sane:  SSC necessitates that both individuals are of sound mind (ie: sane), and that the activity is “sane” as well (participating, even consensually, in your own death and cannibalism would not generally be considered sane.  And in case you're thinking "no one would ever do that", it's already been done).  I often view the term “sane” as a bridge between “safe” and “consensual” in that participation in unsafe or nonconsensual activities (considering the likely results of that participation) is “insane”.  Or, in other words, you’d have to be “insane” (or, at the very least, immensely stupid and/or criminal) to expose yourself to the legal liabilities associated with forced participation, or to knowingly engage in an activity whose likely outcome is injury or death (which carries its own civil and criminal liability as well).
 
Consensual:  It’s tempting to view consent as the simple utterance of the word “yes”, but it has a far broader interpretation.  Children can’t offer consent.  People under the influence of drugs or alcohol can’t offer consent.  People who are uninformed (don’t know what they are authorizing) can’t offer consent.  Those that are unable to say “no” (whether through intimidation, an overwhelming desire to please, or are in the throes of “subspace” for example) can’t offer consent.  And, of course, forcing your kink upon those that do not desire to participate is nonconsensual (ie: that is what distinguishes an exhibitionist from a “flasher”).
 
For your own safety (including protection from additional civil and criminal liabilities), and that of your partner, be absolutely certain that unfettered consent is present.
 
 
RACK
 
What constitutes “acceptable” risk differs from individual to individual.  The concept of RACK is such that each participant is fully informed, and makes their own decisions based upon that information.
 
Risk:  Everything we do involves an element of risk, because everything we do involves an element of danger, however insignificant that may be.  Whether taking a shower, walking across the street, or driving a car… everything has the potential to harm us.  RACK requires that each participant comprehend the level of risk associated with a specific activity, and the distinct individuals participating in that activity (their knowledge, experience, training, etc.)
 
Aware:  Participants must be aware of the unique nature of everyone engaged in a specific activity.  That includes their particular preferences, limits, limitations (ie: health issues), etc.  No two people engage in an activity exactly alike.  Being aware means communicating, listening and negotiating until all the participants come to an understanding of how an activity will be conducted.
 
Consensual:  Just as in SSC, consent is a broad interpretation (see the definition above).  Be absolutely certain, for your safety and protection, that real consent is present.
 
Kink:  The specific B/D S/M activities in which we participate can also be called “kinks”.  Kinks are rather personal and unique to us all.  It’s important to understand the unique nature of each other’s kink such that we can derive the greatest pleasure from our participation in it.  Communicating that to the other participant(s) in the activity will allow them to incorporate your kink into the scene, or inform them of your intentions to do so.  It’s never acceptable to “force” your kink upon someone else that might not be willing to participate in it, or who was not informed of your intentions (surprises are not often appreciated).
 
 
Where do they come from?
 
 
The phrase “Safe, Sane and Consensual” is generally attributed to Slave David Stein who coined it as a slogan in 1983 for the Gay Male S/M Activists (GMSMA).
 
The origin of “Risk Aware Consensual Kink” is less clear, though I have seen a few attributions to Gary Switch from the late 1990’s.
 
 
My personal views on SSC and RACK:
 
I should preface this in two ways.  First (and foremost), I wholly endorse using either SSC or RACK, as they both have the net effect of causing us to think about (and do) the things that keep all of us safer (though, not without risk).  And second, these are my personal views.  Neither I nor anyone else can (or should) speak for the entirety of “the lifestyle”.  I’m sharing my opinions here simply in hopes of generating some thought for you, the reader, as to which (SSC or RACK) best meets your needs.
 
In my estimation, RACK is a much more appropriate guideline for scenes involving strangers or acquaintances.  It is more focused upon actual negotiation, and more equally distributes the responsibility amongst all the participants in a scene.  Given that the vast majority of those in “the lifestyle” have a specific interest (and motivation) to participate solely in B/D S/M activities (as opposed to power exchange relationships), it’s not uncommon (in fact, it’s quite widespread) for Tops and bottoms to scene with several different partners.  And given that they may not share an intimate knowledge of one another, it makes sense that each participant would accept the full responsibility for the circumstances of their individual participation.
 
My personal lifestyle interest is in power exchange relationships, and my scening takes place within the context of those relationships.  So I don’t have the need to negotiate with strangers or acquaintances.  Consequently, I find that the concepts of SSC are more congruent with my role as a Dominant in a power exchange relationship, in that I accept a greater degree of responsibility and control in my submissive’s life (including our scenes).
 
As a Top or a Dominant, it’s unavoidable that we accept a greater degree of responsibility when scening.  Both in terms of our oversight responsibility for the scene itself (after all, we are the ones in control, even if only for the duration of a scene), as well as the civil and criminal liabilities associated with many B/D S/M activities.  And given that I accept that greater control and liability, I am uncomfortable in sharing (equally) the decision-making process inherent to RACK.
 
Some people are uncomfortable with the fact that SSC is not “uniformly” applied to all people in that it is relative to each individual (ie: their state of mind, ability, knowledge, training, experience, etc.).  But that’s precisely the beauty I find in SSC, in that it is adaptable to each of us as individuals.  Ignoring those differences adds (in my opinion) an element of danger to scening that is completely unnecessary. 
 
Those that are uncomfortable with the flexibility inherent to SSC find reassurance in the more rigid application of RACK, in that it relieves them of (some) responsibility to make “judgments” about their partner(s), or others engaged in their own scene (such as a Dungeon Monitor must do).  The emphasis is placed upon individual informed consent (absent much “judgment” regarding the other participant(s) in the scene).  And while that may have an enticing quality to it (so many fear that “judgments” are tantamount to “intolerance”), I can think of many instances when information and consent alone (in the absence of “good judgment”) were utterly insufficient in determining someone’s capacity to safely participate in an activity.  Theoretically, two individuals could be fully aware that the intent and construction of a scene is designed to culminate in death or dismemberment, consensually agree to participate, and still be within the bounds of RACK.  And while that is, admittedly, an extreme example, it rather explicitly demonstrates what I consider to be RACK’s significant shortcomings.
 
I am, admittedly, predisposed towards SSC.  Others favor RACK.  Which best fits your needs?  Only you can know.
 
Rover
 
Copyright 2003
 




RedMagic1 -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 10:23:11 AM)

Thanks very much for that post, John.  Just to annoy you, though[;)], I should say that I only play within the context of friendships or a relationship... and I think RACK makes much more sense than SSC.

I've mentioned a few times here that a friend surprised me once by handing me a baseball bat and asking me to hit her with it for a while.  I did, even though I had never done that before.  It was the start of a great night.  That was the first time we had ever played together, though we certainly felt comfortable with, and trusting of, each other.  I'm not sure I could call that either safe or sane, but I minimized the risks and tried to maximize our mutual pleasure.

Frankly, I consider "SSC" to be a mealy-mouthed term, if for no other reason than the fact that most BDSM is objectively illegal to practice, so there's no way it's officially "safe."  It's much better to admit that you're walking on the margin, instead of pretending the stuff is no big deal.




MidMichCowboy -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 10:38:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
Most BDSM is objectively illegal to practice, so there's no way it's officially "safe."  It's much better to admit that you're walking on the margin, instead of pretending the stuff is no big deal.



AMEN

We are not going to get the laws changed. If we screw up, we will pay. There is nothing noble or religious about what we do. Live with it. If you feel you need public approval .. go vanilla. When engaged with someone, you need to identify the risk and decide if its worth it to you. If you whip someone and they get angry, they can have you arrested on assault charges. So there is risk from your partner. Someone has a stroke or some attack while tied up, you take them to the ER and you will probably be arrested (worked there .. seen it). Courts won't buy that the other person consented. Realize it, make your decision and live with it. The legal system doesn't care about your justification.




Padriag -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 10:39:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JRiddle

Can someone please explain how SSC and RACK are different?

Opinion.

Which of course, would be my opinion. [8D]




MsDDom -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 10:50:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Padriag

quote:

ORIGINAL: JRiddle

Can someone please explain how SSC and RACK are different?

Opinion.

Which of course, would be my opinion. [8D]


this i agree with...
one older (ssc) another more modern (rack) but still convey the same idea.




BoiJen -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 10:52:40 AM)

SSC means you'll let someone else's opinion stop you from doing what you want to do and RACK means you know what you're doing and you're gonna have fun doing it no matter what some crazy ass White Knight tells you.

boi
Future ruler of the universe serving MsK




InTonguesslut -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 10:53:43 AM)

quote:

this i agree with...
one older (ssc) another more modern (rack) but still convey the same idea.


I disagree.
Saying something is safe and sane is very different to saying i am aware of the risks.




slaveboy291 -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 10:57:09 AM)

Sounds like RACK is being more realistic.  You should know what your getting yourself into when get involved with someone.  Be aware of the consequences both good and bad.

RACK sounds more appealing than SSC.




silkncarol -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 12:08:50 PM)

I personally like RACK better than SSC........Many of the activities we partake in are not safe nor sane.  It's about being AWARE of the consequences...both good and bad of those activities..and taking personal responsibility for your own actions or putting yourself into a situation. 

How many times have you heard a new submissive whine about being marked or bruised by someone they played with?   The cry of brutal or sadist is raised....rightly or wrongly, but i just want to shake em an ask.."Didn't you realize marks/bruises could happen?  Things do go wrong,  floggers wrap, knives nick, ect." 





DomImus -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 1:07:56 PM)

To me the difference between RACK and SSC is this: Following RACK means you assess the situation and make a decision based on your own judgment. Following SSC usually means you follow someone else's judgment or often the judgment of a body of people. People who follow RACK generally engage in activities that people who follow SSC would never dream of doing. That was the impetus for RACK. To let people make up their own minds instead of bowing to the masses.




Rover -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 1:46:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomImus

To me the difference between RACK and SSC is this: Following RACK means you assess the situation and make a decision based on your own judgment. Following SSC usually means you follow someone else's judgment or often the judgment of a body of people.


Actually, I'm not aware of any "body of people" who judge what is and isn't SSC, or RACK for that matter.
 
But I agree that SSC is probably more appropriate for a power exchange relationship, in which someone's judgment already takes precedent (ie: it is more consistent with the relationship dynamic).

quote:


People who follow RACK generally engage in activities that people who follow SSC would never dream of doing. That was the impetus for RACK. To let people make up their own minds instead of bowing to the masses.


I really don't think there's any basis for this conclusion.  There are plenty of folks who prefer SSC and engage in some of the more extreme activities I've seen (and I've seen a fair bit).
 
Not sure what the "masses" have to do with either SSC or RACK, since both are individual risk assessment and decision making processes.  Not community standards.
 
John




Andalusite -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 1:53:42 PM)

In practice, I don't think there's a big difference between the two, since individual play styles and limits account for more differences in actual play activities than the philosophy/ethos. I personally prefer "RACK" since it acknowledges that there is some risk involved in most of the things we do, and focuses on mitigating them and making it as safe as possible.




catize -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 2:11:07 PM)

I think RACK is a lot less ambiguous than SSC.  I specifically have difficulty with the word ‘sane’ because it has two definitions; one medical and the other legal. 
But hey, I’m all for folks who are willing to think and plan to avoid unnecessary damage, so in my opinion, both acronyms are okay as far as they go.    




LadyPact -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 4:24:31 PM)

First, My thanks to John for reprinting the above.  I'd seen him post it before, but I'm glad to see him be willing to do so again.

I play by RACK.  The reason I chose that over SSC has much to do with the Risk Aware part.  When I get into any form of play, even before attempting it, I do the research and make Myself aware of the risks.  That goes for anything, but is especially true when it comes to things like needles, fire, and electricity.  Yes, that means I do a lot of reading.  It also means that I will seek out those who are experienced in that type of play so I can attempt to learn from them on top of any research I've done.  Even in types of play that I'm already proficient with, I'll still attend demos given by others, because there might still be more for Me to know.

I expect just as much from the bottoms that I play with.  I want to know that they understand the risks of what could potentially happen should something go wrong.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 5:28:07 PM)

Standard disclaimers of the IMO and YMMV variety apply.
 
For me, SSC makes much more sense.  I can be aware of the risks of my kink and choose to ignore them.  A sub may know and still ignore the risks to his/her psyche or body.  Both of us can choose to consent to these things and still meet the criteria for RACK.  However, this does not equate to "safe" or "sane." 
 
SSC is my pledge to a sub that I will take all the precautions I can to minimize risks during play and that I am of sound mind (neither intoxicated nor experiencing psychological impairment such as depression) while doing it.  SSC is his/her pledge to me that s/he knows his/her own psychological triggers and physical limitations and has communicated them to me.  SSC is our pledge to each other that we will not ignore the risks and, therefore, we consent to play together.




MarsBonfire -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 6:20:12 PM)

3,953. That's how many angels can dance on the head of a pin! No, really! Prove me wrong.




IronBear -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 7:25:41 PM)

The beauty of RACK as part of your mindset is that it is also applicable to a wide variety of things many people do in their daily lives such as walking down dark streets, driving in peak period traffic, even flying on commercial airlines. RACK is more obvious in extreme sports and lets face it if you read the waiver in organizations like the SCA and especially the combat areas it definitely demonstrates RACK. Thus, if RACK is part of your life already why would you want to consider SSC?




Rover -> RE: Actual difference between SSC and RACK? (4/4/2009 7:38:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

Thus, if RACK is part of your life already why would you want to consider SSC?


Because in my daily life I am responsible for me, and others are responsible for themselves.  But in the context of a power exchange relationship, both the responsibility and liability are unequally shared (as a Dominant, I shoulder the majority of both). 
 
Whether it be business or personal relationships, if I'm gonna have the majority liability (both criminal and civil) and responsibility, then I demand the majority authority.  Others, of course, may see things differently for themselves.
 
John




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