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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 12:57:32 PM   
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Men that are really shy and humble have always been a "major" turn on for me.
Sad to say, they are a rare breed.

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 1:12:04 PM   
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Men that are really shy and humble have always been a "major" turn on for me.
Sad to say, they are a rare breed.
Oh you too?!    There is nothing hotter than a slightly shy, unaffected, very smart, submissive man...   Just watching, and listening to them makes me hot, hot, hot.     M

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 1:14:40 PM   
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Men that are really shy and humble have always been a "major" turn on for me.
Sad to say, they are a rare breed.


Why I was just sitting here playing Manopoly with my Dominants whilst enjoying
some cheese-it's (that's where you go to jail, directly to jail, and what happens
incarceration stays incarceration) and I thought, chia* you really need to just
break out of this shell and let loose.

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 1:54:01 PM   
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Dennison is not the original poster, unless I've missed the name change along the way.   As to being shy as a problem, I don't think of it as a major problem, because I am very open about suggesting to a boy how to go about wooing me.   Besides, I think shy guys (not to be confused with evasive guys), are cute.    M


Yeah, but speaking as a guy who's very shy - sometimes painfully shy - in social situations, I have to say it often is a major problem to the extent that it frequently inhibits us from making contact in the first place. Especially for younger guys, I would think. It's not as much of a problem for me now that I've moved into a stage of my life where I'm more comfortable with myself and no longer measure myself in terms of how others perceive me, but when I was younger, I can't even count the number of times I found a woman very attractive but never even said hello because I was literally paralyzed by shyness. I couldn't even begin to count. So in that sense, I think it represents a significant problem, because unless you happen to notice us and break the ice, there won't even be any connection made in the first place.

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 2:23:21 PM   
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I'm a little too worried about chia's definition of "manopoly."  If it's what I think it is, somehow, the mental image isn't as quite as good as manopoly with one hand while eating cheez-its with the other.

Please, chia, make sure you swallow before..... umm......


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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 2:34:14 PM   
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I can't even count the number of times I found a woman very attractive but never even said hello because I was literally paralyzed by shyness.

Someone with this issue should seriously consider paying for "flirting classes."  They exist.

Serious comment, no snark intended.


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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 2:50:39 PM   
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I dunno about all the dommes seeking 'generous males', but one thing for sure is I'm sick to the back teeth of the whining and carping of so-called submissive males who have nothing better to do but bitch about not being able to find that 'domme' to share their kinks and fantasies on a freebie.

Where do you guys get these ideas? Is it something discussed in the gents at munches? Does it come to you while you're slapping your salami browsing porn sites? At what point did you ever get the message 'you don't need a grasp on reality to be kinky'?

Why not get over yourselves and over your own fantasies, get a f*cking grip and start living in the real world for a change? If you were genuinely submissive it wouldn't matter what you get up to, and if you really wanted to be with a domme, and I mean REALLY wanted to be with a domme, you would make the effort and cough up a few readies in the process.

But no, it would appear that the word 'submissive' actually means licence to engage in kinky sex where the only thing you're being submissive to in reality is your bell end or pork sword.

That's why it doesn't matter does it? Because in reality it can be anyone with a good pair of tits, a pussy, corset a place and the time and inclination to indulge you in your fantasies so as you get the woodie and you get your rocks off. This is what it's all about, isn't it? The woodie and being able to cum?

FFS even out in vanilla to get laid you need clean underwear, good aftershave, enough in your wallet to have a good time out and a decent personality, so what makes you think we eschew all of these things in this WIITWD and BDSM community?

To be honest it's not a domme you need, but a 'dumme', and to be honest hardly any women are so thick as to fall for that.

But the thing is you're so far gone from reality you actually believe you have the right to bring what other people write in that personal space provided for them and have a go at them for daring to seek 'generous males'.. So what if they are? What's that got to do with you?

Yeah and far easier to come on these boards and have a go at a whole load of people rather than look to yourself and what you're doing and trying to work out what it is that you're doing which is contributing to your own lack of success.

Yeah right, submissive male. Pull the other one. It's got bells on it.



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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 2:54:12 PM   
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Dennison is not the original poster, unless I've missed the name change along the way.   As to being shy as a problem, I don't think of it as a major problem, because I am very open about suggesting to a boy how to go about wooing me.   Besides, I think shy guys (not to be confused with evasive guys), are cute.    M


Yeah, but speaking as a guy who's very shy - sometimes painfully shy - in social situations, I have to say it often is a major problem to the extent that it frequently inhibits us from making contact in the first place. Especially for younger guys, I would think. It's not as much of a problem for me now that I've moved into a stage of my life where I'm more comfortable with myself and no longer measure myself in terms of how others perceive me, but when I was younger, I can't even count the number of times I found a woman very attractive but never even said hello because I was literally paralyzed by shyness. I couldn't even begin to count. So in that sense, I think it represents a significant problem, because unless you happen to notice us and break the ice, there won't even be any connection made in the first place.


Thank goodness that there are aggressive women waiting to sweep you up, then! 

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 3:19:32 PM   
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Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze!
A woman who offers sexual services in return for mony is a WHORE. Plain and simple. You can't dress it up as "tribute," or "I don't have intercourse with my subs." It's all bullshit. If you take money to give sexual gratification, you are a prostitute. Which is fine with me, but don't try to dress it up with all this "domme" bs.


WTF?????   
Does this also apply to people who trade sexual favors for non financial gifts?
Guess that also makes me a whore, I've put out when taken to dinner, met a person for coffee, they paid for coffee and I repaid the person with sex, When I was short on rent, I slept with the landlord in exchange. Damn, I knew I should went into the escorting business. OMG, when my cub comes to visit this summer and since I will be sharing some of his expenses, then I really must be a WHORE!


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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 4:29:03 PM   
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ThatDamnedPanda
guy who's very shy - sometimes painfully shy - in social situations, I have to say it often is a major problem to the extent that it frequently inhibits us from making contact in the first place.  I couldn't even begin to count. So in that sense, I think it represents a significant problem, because unless you happen to notice us and break the ice, there won't even be any connection made in the first place.
I understand where you're coming, being that I was painfully shy myself, and cannot tell you how awkward I used to be when around a guy I'm attracted to...  

Fortunately I outgrew it in large part...   And while I now don't massively care enough to internalize outside impressions, and try very hard to be interactive when out socializing, I'm still not the type to chase a man down...   On the other hand, if a man does get enough interest out of me to go on a date, and I find him interesting/hot, I generally kiss him to remove the "does she like me" question.    M

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 7:18:58 PM   
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Dennison is not the original poster, unless I've missed the name change along the way.   As to being shy as a problem, I don't think of it as a major problem, because I am very open about suggesting to a boy how to go about wooing me.   Besides, I think shy guys (not to be confused with evasive guys), are cute.    M


Yeah, but speaking as a guy who's very shy - sometimes painfully shy - in social situations, I have to say it often is a major problem to the extent that it frequently inhibits us from making contact in the first place. Especially for younger guys, I would think. It's not as much of a problem for me now that I've moved into a stage of my life where I'm more comfortable with myself and no longer measure myself in terms of how others perceive me, but when I was younger, I can't even count the number of times I found a woman very attractive but never even said hello because I was literally paralyzed by shyness. I couldn't even begin to count. So in that sense, I think it represents a significant problem, because unless you happen to notice us and break the ice, there won't even be any connection made in the first place.


There is a solution to shyness, although it may never feel that way when you suffer from shyness. The solution is to just keep putting yourself out there and expose yourself to that which you fear most, talking to people who make you feel shy.

I used to suffer from shyness when I was younger. Big time. I was scared to death of talking to women. I'm not anymore. Part of my solution to this problem was tackled a different way, as I became a debater, and that pretty much forced me to have to confront that fear straight on. Nowadays, when I tell people I was shy, they laugh at me because they can't believe it. Nowadays, people have trouble shutting me up (which could be another problem).

Okay, now having said that, I wish to comment on this thread, which I just spent the last half an hour reading all of the way through.

There are a couple of different conversations going through this thread, but I'd like to address a couple of them, specifically the OP's complaints about women seeking "generous men" and the conversation about meeting for coffee and who pays and all that.

First, the original complaints are so generic these days that we hear them all of the time. Yes, I get the same kinds of emails from trolls trying to part me from my hard earned dollars (or Korean won these days), and yes, it frustrates me. At the same time, when I have contacted a woman in my area (like when I was in Michigan), I would spend a good deal of time researching whether or not the woman was seeking what I could offer to her, and then I'd write her, and the next thing I'd receive would be some type of "send me money" request. Yeah, that gets old really fast. But just as every dominant woman on the boards has to filter through the chaff of ludicrous offers she receives to find the few diamonds in the rough, so do submissive men. Finding someone is not an easy task. If it was, there would be very little need for a place like collarme in the first place. Everyone would already be with their perfect partner. So, you have to examine profiles, talk to strangers, interact with people on message boards, meet someone for coffee or dinner, get to know people who might help you meet other people, make long term friendships with people who will eventually open up other doors for you as well as serve as good friends, and then you might find the person you're seeking. You might find the person tomorrow. You might find that person in a few years. You might NEVER find that person. A lot of it is chance. Sometimes it has everything to do with where you live. I live right now in South Korea. My chances of finding someone here are slim to none. I know that. Soon, I'll live somewhere else, and hopefully that new place will help me find someone who happens to be local to that area. It's like throwing dice. You take a lot of chances.

The whole meeting for coffee thing: I've never understood why so many people have problems with this sort of thing. Unless you're dirt poor, which would explain the problem, I don't see a single problem with picking up a check and thinking of it as a social expense rather than a relationship expense. There's a huge difference between the two. If you see it as the latter (a relationship expense), you expect something for your purchase. It's not just coffee or lunch. It's an expense for something. If you see it as the former (a social expense), you're paying for coffee and/or lunch, and it's much more about the experience you just had, not some uncertain future that you can't forsee. Whenever I've met someone for coffee, I've never thought a second thing about picking up the tab. It's not because I'm the submissive one, or I'm the "guy". I pick up the tab because it's freaking coffee or lunch. It's not like I just bought someone a Ferrari. Sometimes, I've been to lunch with someone and she's picked up the tab, just because she wanted to. I don't argue over the tab because money means almost nothing to me. I really dislike the concept of money and only pay attention to it because you have to have it to survive in most circumstances.

But I'll pick up a tab whether I'm with a hot dominant woman or some submissive guy I'm meeting because we're mutual acquaintances. When you see the afternoon you spend with a friend or someone you just met to be just that, an afternoon with someone, caring about who pays for it destroys the experience itself. Just yesterday I had lunch with a very attractive, fun woman who works at the convenience store next to where I work. She looked like she was bored, so I asked her if she wanted to grab some lunch. She said yes. We enjoyed a few hours of an afternoon together. Nothing more than that. It doesn't always have to be much more than just that. Too many people seem so focused on end results that they lose the enjoyment of the journey itself.


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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 8:16:27 PM   
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I can't even count the number of times I found a woman very attractive but never even said hello because I was literally paralyzed by shyness.

Someone with this issue should seriously consider paying for "flirting classes."  They exist.

Serious comment, no snark intended.



Ah, man, that's not snarky! It's actually good advice! If they'd existed when i was that age, or if I'd known about them, I probably would have  done exactly that. As I grew into adulthood, I learned ways around the shyness, and it was no longer such a barrier. I think what I probably did was teach myself a lot of what someone would teach you in such a class - how to make small talk, start conversations, how to listen effectively, things like that. I deliberately acquired a lot of learned skills that compensated for the shyness, but it took a few years to learn that and I never did learn how to actually eliminate the underlying  shyness.

I don't really worry about it anymore. Fuck it. It is what it is. I'm shy, I'll always be shy, but I just go out and do shit anyway and pretend I'm not. It all works out just fine now!


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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 8:17:43 PM   
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I have friends who tell me they are shy, and I am alll "wha?".  Evidently I am such a bulldozer, I don't even notice!  They just follow in my generous wake.

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 9:38:45 PM   
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I come here for those pretty little flags at the top of the page.

And the macaroons.

Yes, definitely the macaroons.

chia* (the pet)




hmmm i want some macaroons, care to share? 


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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/5/2009 10:37:39 PM   
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In response to the comment by AAkasha: I realise that being shy can be a problem and that my being drunk will not normally be a turn on for women. That is something I'm trying to work on. But I think think we got our wires crossed because I never said I wasn't willing to pay for dinner or coffee I'm just not comfortable handing over all or most of my money.

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/6/2009 1:52:41 AM   
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This may sound odd, but have you considered trying something outside the realm of relationships to help with your shyness? I think something like amateur dramatics or public speaking lessons could possibly do you the world of good.

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/6/2009 8:34:14 AM   
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Fascinating! I have also met LOTS of female subs who are looking for generous men. Maybe we should have a stimulus package for them! 

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/6/2009 10:00:57 AM   
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OP, the dommes who have a list of items they'd like bought for them in their profile text are generally pro-dommes, duh.... 

No offense, but how did you survive into adulthood?

Seriously. "generous" is usually a keyword signalling that its either a pro-domme or a scammer's profile, and the list of items is a dead giveaway. How could you not know that?
 

Now I see what prompted Lady Pact's thread about other people's stupidity causing everyone else's headaches.

*reaches for the extra-strength Tylenol*

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/6/2009 10:22:37 AM   
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Getting involved in theatre, even if you're just working on the sets to begin with, can be extremely helpful in overcoming shyness.
I used to be so painfully shy that I would have a major panic attack if called on in class.
Now I talk to everyone and anyone.
Not caring what others think can help with that as well!

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RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "g... - 4/6/2009 3:15:58 PM   
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If the OP had only titled this, Generous Subs for Greedy Dominants, he might have been able to lure those he has issues with into combat . . . . . Instead of just pissing off a lot of women he ostensibly would like to make the acquaintance of . . .. . .

lol . . . .

Okay, I'll jump in cuz I have a slightly different perspective:

I have a thing for poor guys, but . . . . . (BIG gigantic caveat here) . . .. . I'm so picky about so many other things that the money thing pales in comparison . . . . . .

But then, did I say? I'm a big pervert even by pervert standards . . .. . lol

& it's necessary to note: while I like 'em kinda impoverished (relative to American standards of wealth & success & all that), I like 'em hard-working -- the two are not the mutually exclusives some would think . . . . . lol

I like 'em when they are 'slightly corrupt boyscout types' . . . . lol . . . . Honest, earnest, loyal, diligent, helpful, idealistic, all that 'boy-scout-y' stuff, but a little naughty, a little bad, too . . . . .

The real deal-breaker is that they gotta really be into me-the-person, & especially me-the-intellect, into reading all my words & adoring them . . . . . Ha Ha Ha . . . . .. . I'm holding my breath on that one . ....

Mmmmm, & I also like the 'damaged' ones -- I tend to collect those who survived really crappy childhoods . .. . . .

I like them taller, younger, skinnier, & prettier than me, so . ... . *shrugs shoulders* . . . . But I also know very well that that comes with its own 'price tag' regardless of the younger, skinnier, prettier person's gender . . . . . & funny trumps a lot of these more superficial qualifiers -- they can be shorter & fatter & older & uglier, but if they reliably crack me up, that's hot . . . .

Oh, & on that whole 'paying for coffee' convo -- I have issues about letting others pay my way . . . . If it's a casual acquaintance or a stranger, I pay -- it contributes to my feelings of being in control, being on top . .... I'm only into being 'treated' as a negotiated part of an ongoing LTR, basically; then it's fine & fabulous . .. . . But if they don't offer to pay, they do look cheap & tacky in my eyes . . . . . lol

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