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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

maybe they aren't trying to deflect responsibility at all for the decisions that were made at that time, poor or otherwise. could it be that people look upon those moments and recognize that it depicts a period of discovery and excitedness that was primarily affiliated with something new they were experiencing. and maybe they chose the label sub frenzy to recognize this period as well. i don't see anyone attempting to sidestep the things they've done. as a matter of fact, many have been forthcoming about their fallacies instead.

and whether many people do or don't do something is really moot. since the only person we need to be accountable for is ourselves. how can one person give credence or disavow another person's truth? or is it only true if it mimics your view?

porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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...you cant know absolutely how a person feels going through something unless you have gone through it yourself...

even then you can't know absolutely...folks are unique that way.

yes - true, we all cypher differently  



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ORIGINAL: colouredin

I have to agree the.darkness (im not quoting you because of lazyness, not wanting to change my font back)

See because we all do stupid things through ignorance and rushing in, being a sub doesnt make it any more profound or affecting we could have sea saw frenzy, new bike frenzy, alcohol frenzy. Anytime we 'discover' or get something new we tend to rush off all guns blazing to try before looking at the consequenses its a human condition I think we maintain from childhood. The ability to be fascinated. Its a good thing sometimes it keeps you feeling alive but it leads to stupidity. If we read the instruction manuals first, took heed of every safty warning and all that then there would be no such term but we dont do it.

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

To me it conveys confusion and feelings I had that made no sense and didnt seem rational to me but they were there non the less. I think it shows a state of mind. Not a reason for stupidity.

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ORIGINAL: colouredin

I have to agree the.darkness (im not quoting you because of lazyness, not wanting to change my font back)

See because we all do stupid things through ignorance and rushing in, being a sub doesnt make it any more profound or affecting we could have sea saw frenzy, new bike frenzy, alcohol frenzy. Anytime we 'discover' or get something new we tend to rush off all guns blazing to try before looking at the consequenses its a human condition I think we maintain from childhood. The ability to be fascinated. Its a good thing sometimes it keeps you feeling alive but it leads to stupidity. If we read the instruction manuals first, took heed of every safty warning and all that then there would be no such term but we dont do it.

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Yeah well, it's getting pretty boring(not to say elitist) to hear the whole - 'well it was way more intense for me so I have to label it something special and no one could possibly know because they obviously haven't experienced that the way I did' attitude that seems to be a core in thing going around the boards at the moment.
 
the.dark.

actually to suggest elitism with regard to losing youre self control is a bit screwy really  - not something to be proud of, im not, just im standing amongst the ones whove been there i spose.

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslave
actually to suggest elitism with regard to losing youre self control is a bit screwy really  - not something to be proud of, im not, just im standing amongst the ones whove been there i spose.

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslave
actually to suggest elitism with regard to losing youre self control is a bit screwy really  - not something to be proud of, im not, just im standing amongst the ones whove been there i spose.

Lets get it completely straight.  Its not screwy, simply because I did not suggest that in regard to losing ones self control suggests elitism.  Dismissing someone elses experience and making it sound that what they have is less passionate and 'not in the the us catagory' is.  Thing is - you never know and have no idea just how intense/passionate/etc someone else response were or are - let alone suggesting there is some special little group that you somehow fit in and others don't.
 
i never suggested that and i didnt call you screwy.  i dont remember ever pissing in youre cornflakes, but i clearly have somewhen

 
Thing is - everyone fucks up and makes dumb decisions and choices regardless if they are conscious or not, recognised or not, passionate or not.  Telling people, when they make a mistake that they did it because of sub frenzy only makes it sound special and acceptable and just gives people another thing to feel cool about because they went through 'it'.
 
theres nothing special about sub frenzy - and by the way i didnt coin the phrase so get off my back.

 
Everyone goes through it - thats what life is - submissive or not.  Some people just don't have a desire to see those fuck ups as always a bad thing.  Some people don't have the need to run around going 'been there, done that' either.
 
but sharing an experience with others on a discussion board where, i thought, vivre la differance and information shared and gathered is the point of this place the desire exists none the less to share those fuck ups and bad calls.  noone is being elitist here. 
 
for some the term sub frenzy describes a process they went through.  for others who might be experiencing it, having a buzz word to use in order to use the 'search' function so they can get a handle on whats happening is also useful.

like i said before i didnt coin the phrase, but someone did and it keeps being coined in other places at other times all over the bdsm spectrum, so like it or not the buzz word fits, is used and is here to stay. 
 
 

 
the.dark.