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ORIGINAL: DarkFury

I think my first and biggest screw up was accepting a collar from a Master and self deluding myself into believing I'd live happily ever after. That only last 2 months before I finally wised up, removed the collar and left!

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Lally, if you cannot hold a valid discussion without assuming it is all about 'you', that 'you' have the ability 'piss in anyones cornflakes', or that someone is on 'your' back, then there is no reason for me to even try to have a decent discussion with you.  I enjoy debates, not discussions where it all revolves around 'someone'.  I'm done.
 
the.dark.

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslave
theres nothing wrong in giving something a name when the symptoms and signs are the same with each and every person who does it.  it helps to identify the disease.
 
if doctors went around saying, you have a persistant cough, runny nose and sore throat syndrome, instead of just being able to say you have a cold, they'd run even later than they already do!

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp
Remember The Frenzy?  

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ORIGINAL: everhope

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp
Remember The Frenzy?  

my worst frenzied moment was being almost fisted in the parking lot of Starbucks with slut written on my chest. it was not a shining moment, as i looked up at the cop who was telling me to get out of the car. sitting on the curb next to the dude while the cops searched my car was one of the most humilating times of my life. 
frenzied...yep. 

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Its all cool lally.  I just don't do it being about an individual and take a wider view, like on the other thread, that's not just about 'you' as misst interpreted it's about the wider view.  You just happened to start the thread.
 
hmm, , well.  i spose one of us had to capitulate and im much better at it than you  - youre being very crabby by the way.

 
I don't happen to believe that people are using the phrase 'sub frenzy' as an excuse.  But I do find it lazy and I find it confusing for new people.  Buzz words work when used  by people who have been around the block do work.  But end of the day, it's no harder to say, 'so you fucked up', than 'so you have sub frenzy'.  In fact it's less words!  In the end, you(generic) still have to explain what it is to a new person whom this exact thread and buzz word is supposed to be making it easier for.  It doesn't, it makes things more confusing and makes people feel like they know so little.  So many acronyms just end up with people going 'huh?' and then you end up with threads like "subslave difference" - "what is 'frenzy' " - just because BDSM peeps make things so fucking complicated.
 
ok, so i get youre point - yes, i recall a time when i was confused, but not by the acronyms particularly, they helped.  i remember being sent off to castle realm i think (i hear a generic groan) to read up about sub frenzy - in the same way that i went off and read up about submissives not being weak doormats and i remember you saying once that not all sadists are dominant - eureka moments, clarifications, the light goes on and you learn.
 
so, now amongst the tenuous, confusing byways and highways of bdsmshire we must change 'sub frenzy' to 'you fucked up' - ok.  i still dont see the difference.  noone is saying here that they didnt fuck up and actually the only time this thread got convoluted and confusing is when it got somewhat hijacked by people refusing to accept the acronym as a standard term for fucking up.

 
I said on another thread and I will say it again.  I just don't get why people(general bdsm types) insist on coining new terms and buzz words which end up making things far more complicated when they(general) are the first to harp on about how important clear communication is in a BDSM/Ds/SM/Ms relationship!
 
every language under the sun started with grunts and ended up with a florid and ever expanding vocabulary - as the internet allows more and more people of different needs and requirements to embrace the world of kink you will inevitably bump into more and more different ways to describe something.
 
its only confusing to those who are starting out, but then french confused the hell out of me until i went and lived there for a bit.

 
Problem is, most people don't bloody talk because it's too fucking complicated in the end.
 
the macrocsm yes, the microcosm no.  my microcosm isnt confusing atall - just a bit steep at times

 
the.dark.

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

lally, this isn't about me and it's not about you.  I really thought we had got of the 'its all about you' vibe.  My bad and mistake and honestly, if you can't disassociate yourself from a comment and have to resort to personal attacks for one upmanship, it's just a pity.
 
It's not about being crabby, it's about not making ourselves the centre but discussing something instead, which is just getting lost with your retorts.  I know I cannot hold reasonable debate with you right now, in the future it might change.  It's all good, just chill and try to not get personal.
 
the.dark.

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ORIGINAL: everhope

my worst frenzied moment was being almost fisted in the parking lot of Starbucks with slut written on my chest. it was not a shining moment, as i looked up at the cop who was telling me to get out of the car. sitting on the curb next to the dude while the cops searched my car was one of the most humilating times of my life. 
frenzied...yep. 

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ORIGINAL: everhope

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp
Remember The Frenzy?  

my worst frenzied moment was being almost fisted in the parking lot of Starbucks with slut written on my chest. it was not a shining moment, as i looked up at the cop who was telling me to get out of the car. sitting on the curb next to the dude while the cops searched my car was one of the most humilating times of my life. 
frenzied...yep. 

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ORIGINAL: persephonee

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ORIGINAL: everhope

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp
Remember The Frenzy?  

my worst frenzied moment was being almost fisted in the parking lot of Starbucks with slut written on my chest. it was not a shining moment, as i looked up at the cop who was telling me to get out of the car. sitting on the curb next to the dude while the cops searched my car was one of the most humilating times of my life. 
frenzied...yep. 

LOL...what were they searching the car for...gloves?...lube??...Please tell me they didnt get the Sharpie!!!!