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LookieNoNookie -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 5:52:37 PM)


I do not fear porn.

I am strong....I will relentlessly attack porn that absconds with my principles.

(And since I actually have none....well....porn will not hurt me).

I have spoken.

Bring on the porn...I am strong.




DesFIP -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 6:32:47 PM)

Not being able to sleep and surfing porn is one thing. Spending hours at it, and spending money that could better be used to pay bills, buy the ums new shoes is something else. And avoiding interacting with the real live female in your life because you would rather masturbate to an airbrushed photo is totally unacceptable.

I don't want it to detract from us.  If he's jerking off on his own and not having sex with me, that's unacceptable and damn right I'd make a fuss. If I don't lose by it, then no problem.




Cagey18 -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 6:35:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Another thing for me, colouredin, is that I think porn  is intrinsically ugly.

So where does wanking to nekkid pics of kittinSol fit in then?


Damn I'm confused now.....



and horny as ever....



[8D]






kittinSol -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 6:49:32 PM)

It fits in because, quite obviously, these pictures are NOT porn.

Silly.
 
But cute [8D] .




Cagey18 -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 6:56:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

It fits in because, quite obviously, these pictures are NOT porn.


Like my dick knows the difference...


Down, boy!  Them black-and-white's is art, I tells ya!






kittinSol -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 7:03:25 PM)

You call him 'boy', do you [:-] ? Interesting... *thinking*.




Cagey18 -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 7:06:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

You call him 'boy', do you [:-] ? Interesting... *thinking*.

Well he is rather like a rabid dog...jumping, salivating, sticking his nose in places where perhaps he shouldn't...




MarsBonfire -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 7:09:01 PM)

The only thing I find offensive about porn is it's profit to production value ratio. Honestly, as much profit as the industry is making off this stuff... you'd think they could deliver a better product. You'll notice that no porn titles of today have any lasting impact. Can you name any of them? Yet, you look back at the late 70's and 80's, you can name all sorts of titles:

Deep Throat
Devil in Miss Jones
Behind the Green Door
Story of O
Flesh Gordon
Misty Bethoven
Erotic Tales of Canterbury

And so on... 

Why? Why do these fuck films stick in the mind? Because it was more expensive to shoot on film, the producers of those films took the time to plan things out. To actually have a story, and a script. They spent more than five minutes on lighting a scene. Because the makers of the movies actually tried to say a little something, other than, "Here's your pizza, Lady, and here's the peperoni to go on it." Most of the crap being pumped out these days just doesn't interest me. The sexiest film to come down the pike in years was "Secretary." Why do you suppose that is?




xBullx -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 7:11:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: colouredin


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ORIGINAL: xBullx
Superficial societal indoctrination perhaps; but most likely it stems from feelings spawned by prior relationships that seemingly validated these societal stereotypes that initiate selfishness inspired by insecurity.

Don't worry though, nature programmed you to be this way



Hmm despite the patronising response here it seems you are advocating BOTH nature and nurture in the same breath whether its 'in your experience or not' its still a contradiction in terms




Patronizing? It seems you might have a complex…

But really that’s simply your chosen interpretation, or perhaps a tactic intended to confuse the statement. You may pick the correct response to suit your purposes, as for me I already have my own assumption as to your objective.

So as it seems in your opinion she and society cannot nurture or attempt to “manipulate” conditions that have been thrust upon her by her nature? Do you define the rules of engagement for this subject matter or is there a book I can go too? <--- That is an example of patronizing! <--- another one!

In the same breath it might be possible that the female concerned would be insecure about her man’s possible interest in porn (or other females) due to her natural inclination as a submissive female to want surrender to her man but not want to compete with other girls. (Make note this is an opinion of mine: if she is actually a submissive she doesn’t really in her heart want a man that is HERS, she wants him to be his own man and possess her.) So in an open attempt to rid herself of any type of sexual competition (all girls hope to be “their” man’s best girl, this is actually a natural response, striving to be the best choice so she will be protected , as might be her offspring) she overtly makes it known that she would “disapprove” of any exterior sexual interests; thereby attempting to control his actions or choices through the use of certain brands of superficial manipulations that may have or have  most likely been taught to her by this society, the society that has become ever increasingly open to an artificial equality rather than the acknowledgement of our intended predispositions. Our subject made the statements about being possessive. That my dear could have both natural and nurture reasoning, I wasn’t completely sure of her intent so I didn’t elaborate initially. In fairness to the meowling, along with comments about insecurity, she did state something about not finding porn all that attractive or something along those lines, I am of course paraphrasing. I am actually rather fond of the kitten as are most so this was never intended to be an attack upon her person, but you seem rather needful of clarification.

With that in mind I wasn’t going to go into deep details based on assumption. But perhaps she, through her given information might bring some of us to a “logical” conclusion that she might in fact foster feelings of insecurity if he were to find interest in other sluts, she herself says it is her cum (note possessive attitude), as if she possesses it/him; she might also be implying that she should be all he needs, and that in itself might be seen as the intention to impose feelings of guilt upon him.

It bears consideration that it is possible that the very brand of frustration manufactured in this type of commentary will, if he were to succumb to her manipulations and not watch porn because she doesn’t like him doing so might demonstrate he is not man enough or quite possibly not interested enough in her to stand as his own man and dictate to her that he will define how things are going to be. Hopefully you have heard of the concept of mutual pacification, both lying to or appeasing one another just enough to move things along without conflict or effort.  I think that’s a liberal thing.

It is nature that would inspire her need to belong to a man; it is nurture that has taught her to mistrust him when he looks at other women as he is naturally predisposed to do and nurture has also taught him to deny his responsibilities as a man, and “master” his everyday duties.

At best, all I see you trying to do here is make an attempt to manipulate the intent within my initial response, I’m only left as to speculate as to why. You might have been met with a greater degree of success in understanding my intentions had you simply asked me to define my intent rather than trying to tell me what I was thinking.

I know, what thrill would there have been in that? After all it might be reasonable to suspect you interjected yourself into the foray for a reason other than just mutual understanding.

I personally don’t dislike porn; I just don’t have time or the inclination to watch it. But it sure as hell isn’t cheating if I were to watch it, cheating requires the intent to deceive or win at something egregiously, in that in this case my pet, it might imply that I was subdued by this western puritanical bullshit that society has produced generating a false idea that porn has so much power that it could corrupt me or my personal relationships.

Holy shit, I hope neither my personal relationships nor my own character are so weak as to give way to such trivial concerns.

In conclusion, you say potato, I say pa’tatto.




kittinSol -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 7:25:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MarsBonfire
Deep Throat
Devil in Miss Jones
Behind the Green Door
Story of O
Flesh Gordon
Misty Bethoven
Erotic Tales of Canterbury


I see that we have a vintage porn connaisseur :-) .




kittinSol -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/6/2009 7:35:42 PM)

Nope. I just don't like sharing my toys. It comes from being made to go to daycare too early in life. Trauma, trauma [8|] .




colouredin -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/7/2009 1:10:41 AM)

I didnt really read much of what you wrote, because I do find it tiring when people think the longer the words they use the more right they must be.

I dont think its anything to do with nature, I dont think much in human exsistance is to do with nature, I dont think people are naturally submissive or naturally feminine or whatever its developed through socialisation, there arent that many forms of impulse behaviour in humans. So its not really mixing up words, they are different, heard the expression nature vs nurture?




xBullx -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/7/2009 5:33:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: colouredin

I didnt really read much of what you wrote,




How nice.




slaveboyforyou -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/7/2009 6:32:38 AM)

I don't care for porn; I've never found it appealing.  I find nothing attractive about close up shots of a cock thrusting in and out of a vagina.  I don't know why anyone finds that appealing.  I can't watch cumshots in porno films; it absolutely turns my stomach.  It's just foul and again not attractive.  I don't consider myself a prude; I love looking at gorgeous women.  I really love watching 2 gorgeous women making out (yep, I like every other straight man love to watch women getting it on with other women.)  I like erotica, but I can't for the life of me understand why another man would enjoy seeing a bunch of dudes gangbanging a girl.  I do not understand a straight man finding anything sexy about a closeup shot of a girl sucking some fat guy's hairy cock.  I almost think guys who like that crap have repressed homosexual fantasies. 

Other than the disgusting parts of porn, I can't stop laughing enough to get turned on by them.  Anytime someone pops in a porn video, I instantly turn into one of the little robots from Mystery Science Theater 3000.  I sit and make fun of it and generally have everyone rolling on the floor lauging.  Porn is just fucking ridiculous; it's not sexy at all. 




Ladyraven82 -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/7/2009 6:36:15 AM)

What about BDSM porn, slaveboy?  I agree with you that vanilla porn is pretty stupid, but have you ever checked out any of the kink.com sites?  Hogtied is particularily hot, in my opinion.




kittinSol -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/7/2009 6:50:16 AM)

These websites are mostly orientated towards the conventional market: sub fems/Dom males, Ladyraven. I don't know whether 'hogtied', a site dedicated to preparing women with ropes as if they were piglets about to go into the oven, would appeal to slaveboy.




Ladyraven82 -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/7/2009 6:53:56 AM)

I wasn't saying he should specifically like hogtied, kittin.  I was just asking about BDSM porn in general, and sited hogtied as an example of what I enjoy.  He might like meninpain, or other sites I'm unaware of.




slaveboyforyou -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/7/2009 7:05:23 AM)

I've seen those sites Lady Raven, and yeah they have one site portraying Domme/male-sub scenarios.  But no, it doesn't appeal to me.  The dialogue between the performers in those scenes is equally ridiculous to mainstream porn dialogue.  If you look at those sites the performers are almost all mainstream pornography actresses.  It's obvious that it's a put on; there is no passion in the scenes.  It just doesn't appeal to me; I find that it's more geared towards the simple minded.  Like with other porn, I can't stop laughing at the dialogue long enough to get turned on.  Yeah I masturbate like most men, but I have a delightfully devious imagination.  I don't need to see 20 year old bleached blonde porn stars tying up some guy and kicking him in the balls. 




colouredin -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/7/2009 7:57:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

The dialogue between the performers in those scenes is equally ridiculous to mainstream porn dialogue. If you look at those sites the performers are almost all mainstream pornography actresses. It's obvious that it's a put on; there is no passion in the scenes.


That to me is the crux of the difference between porn and erotica. I find traditional porn films really funny, I imagine they arent the hardest thing in the world to script. It clearly works for some, the plastic nature of it can also be a turn off. However 'love' scenes in soft porn films is so different and can be highly charged with passion and sexuality.





MarsBonfire -> RE: Fear of Porn (4/7/2009 4:27:36 PM)

Erotica. n. 1) artistic or literary materials designed to illicit an arousing response in the viewer/reader. 2) extremely well made porn.

Porn. n. 1) artistic or literary materials designed to illicit an arousing response in the viewer/reader. 2) poorly made erotica.




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