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TheHeretic -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/11/2009 8:54:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 It`s a Jack Bauer/24 fantasy thing.lol With armchair comanders playing the hero and saving the day (and getting the chick[:D]) Got it.... You're the one saying, "I would personally cut those fuckers all in half with a 50 cal. machine gun and mail them home in pieces."

Lorr47 -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/11/2009 5:13:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Rambo for Prez. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090410/wl_africa_afp/somaliapiracyshipping Of France? No I do not think so. Rambo would agree with Deline that the French nation is not of much use since its citizens do not play golf and do not know how to win wars.

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/11/2009 5:18:29 PM)
quote: Rambo would agree with Deline that the French nation is not of much use since its citizens do not play golf and do not know how to win wars. They don't play golf? Fucking barbarians! Oh. Wait. I don't play golf either. I got myself mixed up with someone else. Never mind!

MichiganHeadmast -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/11/2009 8:04:42 PM)
Whatever happens at sea, I think it's high time to level the city of Eyl.

Vendaval -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/11/2009 8:12:05 PM)
Sounds like a good plan to me. quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice <fast reply> Part of what makes this situation so difficult in my eyes, and why I'm reluctant to second-guess the folks dealing with it, is that I'd like to see two different, and perhaps contradictory, things happen: (a) I'd like the world, particularly Somali pirates, to conclude that messing with Americans is a singularly bad idea. (b) I'd like Capt. Phillips to make it home alive. Deciding if we can achieve both these goals--or, if we can't, which gets sacrificed--strikes me as the crux of the matter. How about "B" first, and as soon as he's safely on board, whistle up a flight of F-18s to achieve "A".

TheHeretic -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 8:32:08 AM)
The latest update: "The negotiations between and American officials have broken down. The reason is American officials wanted to arrest the pirates in Puntland and elders refused the arrest of the pirates," said the commissioner, Abdi Aziz Aw Yusuf. He said he organized initial contacts between the elders and the Americans. Two other Somalis, one involved in the negotiations and another in contact with the pirates, also said the talks collapsed because of the U.S. insistence that the pirates be arrested and brought to justice. Article here

slvemike4u -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 10:24:22 AM)
Actually saw an interesting interview on CNN last nite,it was late and for the life of me I can't remember the mans position much less his name.Anyway one point he made,as far as how yo handle this shit so it doesn't reoccur(not so much how to handle this incident)is to arrest the elders from the pirates villages.That of course garnered my attention,this mans point was that these people don't have the same view of individual guilt.....they beleive in collective guilt.The idea being holding the elders responsible for the crimes of others would deter this behavior in the future. Now of course the idea of collective guilt is anathema to our system and I'm not suggesting this be done...but we are going to have to deal with these people in some fashion that ensures this shit stops.

TheHeretic -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 10:28:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u we are going to have to deal with these people in some fashion that ensures this shit stops. Do you think we would be in a better position to address the bigger issue if we hadn't demonstrated to them that we are hesitant and sluggish in our response?

Lorr47 -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 10:44:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u we are going to have to deal with these people in some fashion that ensures this shit stops. Do you think we would be in a better position to address the bigger issue if we hadn't demonstrated to them that we are hesitant and sluggish in our response? NBC just announced that Navy Seals attacked the sealed boat last night. The captain is on the Bainbridge. Three pirates are dead. Hestitant?

TheHeretic -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 10:50:46 AM)
This is very good news. And yes, Lorr. It could have been over on Friday. Can't find a good link yet, unless I go to a blurb on the FOX website. But then people would say it was all a lie...[:D]

Owner59 -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 10:52:13 AM)
There ya go Harry...Fireworks ,dead bad guys and and they saved the Capt.Win win win. I expect now after your criticism of Obama`s handling,we`ll have your praise filled congratulations of Obama`s handling of this. <folks,don`t hold your breath> I wonder how your buddies at Fox News`ll spin this? ~~~~~~~~~~~ Well done US Navy!!! USA! USA! USA!

Kirata -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 10:54:11 AM)
Yep... here's the AP wire: WASHINGTON (AP) - The U. S. Navy has rescued the American sea captain held by Somali pirates. A senior U.S. intelligence official said hostage Richard Phillips was not hurt in what appeared to be a swift firefight off the Somali coast on Sunday. Phillips was safely transported to a Navy warship nearby. The official said three pirates were killed and one was injured. The official was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. K.

Kirata -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 11:02:37 AM)
Isn't this exactly the kind of move you were just making fun of? I`m getting now! It`s a Jack Bauer/24 fantasy thing.lol With armchair comanders playing the hero and saving the day (and getting the chick) Unh huh... by the way, here's the Fox News "spin": Ship Captain Rescued from Somali Pirates American sea Captain Richard Phillips was rescued from four Somali pirates Sunday, a U.S. intelligence official said. Three pirates were killed and one was in custody after what appeared to be a swift firefight off the Somali coast, the official said. Phillips, who was not hurt, was safely transported to a Navy warship nearby. The official was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. Yep yep yep. Ain't it crazy? K.

TheHeretic -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 11:05:05 AM)
CNN is reporting that Capt. Phillips jumped overboard a second time to make it happen. Better late than never.

stef -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 11:12:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic This is very good news. And yes, Lorr. It could have been over on Friday. It's always amusing when some Chairborne Ranger thousands of miles away thinks he has a better understanding of the situation than those on site. Perhaps next time you should get in touch with the military and tell them how they should be handling the situation? [sm=rolleyes.gif] ~stef

DarkSteven -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 11:16:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic CNN is reporting that Capt. Phillips jumped overboard a second time to make it happen. Better late than never. OMG. That is GREAT news!

Lucylastic -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 11:17:10 AM)
Glad he is back safe and sound, politics be dammed Lucy

slvemike4u -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 11:26:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u we are going to have to deal with these people in some fashion that ensures this shit stops. Do you think we would be in a better position to address the bigger issue if we hadn't demonstrated to them that we are hesitant and sluggish in our response? Great news that the Captain is safe and in American hands. Rich to be fair I don't recall suggesting that we be hesitant and sluggish,if I posted such advice please point it out to me.

DarkSteven -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 11:30:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Actually saw an interesting interview on CNN last nite,it was late and for the life of me I can't remember the mans position much less his name.Anyway one point he made,as far as how yo handle this shit so it doesn't reoccur(not so much how to handle this incident)is to arrest the elders from the pirates villages.That of course garnered my attention,this mans point was that these people don't have the same view of individual guilt.....they beleive in collective guilt.The idea being holding the elders responsible for the crimes of others would deter this behavior in the future. Now of course the idea of collective guilt is anathema to our system and I'm not suggesting this be done...but we are going to have to deal with these people in some fashion that ensures this shit stops. That's one way. The other is that the pirate ships are well armed and I suppose it would be impossible to mistake a subsistence shipping boat for one. If so, just send one aircraft carrier there, dispatch fighter planes from it, and sink all the pirate ships that are in dock.

DomKen -> RE: Captain Richard Phillips' Leap of Faith (4/12/2009 11:31:47 AM)
Seems likely that the Captain jumped overboard the first time before the SEAL's were in position. The second time I assume he found SEAL divers waiting for him.

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