Real0ne
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yeh maybe i dont. but then you have not shown us anything to illustrate that i am wrong other than your personal style. Ah, but you took someones personal style as an example of your veiw. So my personal style is the counter to that. There by illustrating that you are wrong.
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If i look into the catholic religion or any pholosophy i may choose to endeavor, i will gather all the data i can at the time and make my judgement based on what ever is availiable "at that time". You didn't take stock of ALL the data available, did you. You took stock of one mans view and made a decision based solely on that. You're decision is then wrong in the context of applying to all Goreans but correct on that one Gorean.
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i left the door open for you give me some kind of data to show this thread is incorrect. Gor pretty much like klingon has everything in writing. if you cant come up with soemthing to show me in writing then it seems maybe you are the one who is spewing your ideas and they may not be in the same mindset of the creators. The thread in which this thread is based on is the proof itself. It is written and, I might add, in a language you can read. Unlike klingon. You just don't wish to see it for that.
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That is why i asked if there is a new developement. So is there? then show me some gor text to back yur azz up bro. So once again is there some new developement? Nope, no new development. It's just the same as it's been. People will learn of a concept and apply it how they see fit. Gor and BDSM alike. But, because one, two, ten or a hundred may think along the same lines, does not mean that eveyone does. Or that sweeping absolute statements (like all women are slaves) are true either. But since you've asked for something in writting and I know you, yourself will not be going to do the search yourself (I mean, who honestly wants to disprove their own theory and better themselves, right?) here, this will help: http://www.homestone.org/essays/cornerstones.html
I'll also add that the page has a link so that supporting quotes can be seen as well.
i prefer to look at Gor from the home world where it all began, the foundations, not the watered down earth version that you gave me.
Gor philosophy is a by product of the work of John Lange, a university professor holding a doctorate in philosophy, writing under the pen name of John Norman.
He explores the existence and purpose of men and women, their relationship to one another and their world, and the development of society and culture. The backdrop for this is a savage counter-Earth, whose people can be caompared to many ancient cultures of our own world's past, primarily those of the Greco-Roman age.
On Gor, slavery is often nonconsensual. A woman can be kidnapped and forcefully collared. She becomes mere property and can be killed by her owner with impunity. True Gorean slavery would be illegal in most places on Earth.
For example, nonconsensual slavery is legal on Gor but generally illegal in most places on Earth. Killing an errant slave on Gor is legal but would land you in prison on Earth.
female rulers on gor:
These women possess the same powers as a male ruler would possess. These female rulers are subservient to no man. Of course such women can be enslaved and most examples of female rulers in the books were eventually collared. But, this does not diminish their power in the least. All men can be enslaved as well.
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http://www.geocities.com/delphius2002/id3.htm
i really snipped that a lot but this is the work of luther, (the link above), and done quite well i might add. There is little difference from what people say about the gor philosophies today than they said several years ago.
it seems mr d like you are substituting a remanufactured version or possibly your own version of gor that is more politically correct than what the core of gor philosophy tru represents as is depicted by lange, the creator of gor, in his novels. You can find a few more sites that analyse his work as well but this is the most complete imo.
In conclusion the statement that the core philosophy of gor is that all women are in fact considered slaves to men on demand, thus all women are slaves stands.
This thread was really meant for the domme women who have no interest in wading thru that mess that is on the gor post to voice their opinion amongst each other at a more relaxed level than the intense philosophical debate there, and i do sincerely appreciate the responses and i respect when people take the responsibility to stand up for their opinions on matters like this rather than hiding behind the cowardly and irresponsible shadows of judgementalism that has yet to offer anything substantial.
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