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satanschild -> Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/29/2006 8:17:33 PM)

Anyone have relationship problems that intensify the urge and desire to submit. I'm thinking they are a coming from sense of loss of control and need to punish myself for the mistakes I have made. I seek humilliation, being abused and used any way the dominate feels fit in doing. Sometimes the thought of forced bi sex is very appealling. Any commints.


Satanschild




IrishMist -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/29/2006 8:29:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: satanschild

Anyone have relationship problems that intensify the urge and desire to submit. I'm thinking they are a coming from sense of loss of control and need to punish myself for the mistakes I have made. I seek humilliation, being abused and used any way the dominate feels fit in doing. Sometimes the thought of forced bi sex is very appealling. Any commints.


Satanschild


/scratches head in confusion

Nope

Never do

/shrug




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/29/2006 8:35:45 PM)

Don't DO anything until you can control yourself and make a sound judgement.




tywashername -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/29/2006 10:02:00 PM)

wow, i know how you feel. i feel that way. given the situation with my Master, Sir, Him being a distance aways as of now, i feel as though when i make a mistake, it's ten times as worse because Master, Sir is able to punish as He sees fits. it actually hurts more that i can not be punished by my Master, Sir the right way. being farther away from Master, Sir makes me want to serve Him more. theres nothing i wouldnt do for Master, Sir. He knows that. He's my heart. He's why i live.

slave ty
Owned by Master,Sir and spankingbeauty




michaelGA -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/29/2006 10:08:10 PM)

sometimes, the burning desire to submit isn't enough when there's nobody to appreciate it. one can live their entire life with the undeniable need to belong to "The One" only to never find them. this is a lonely and thankless task to some. as i have learned, a submissive can't "make" a Dominant want them.




MHOO314 -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 5:35:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: michaelGA

sometimes, the burning desire to submit isn't enough when there's nobody to appreciate it. one can live their entire life with the undeniable need to belong to "The One" only to never find them. this is a lonely and thankless task to some. as i have learned, a submissive can't "make" a Dominant want them.



and a Dominant cannot make a submissive want them--at the end of the day there are still human interactions and no guarantees---





IrishMist -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 5:38:31 AM)

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and a Dominant cannot make a submissive want them--at the end of the day there are still human interactions and no guarantees


Very true...very, very true




michaelGA -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 5:48:06 AM)

ain't that the dreadful and painful truth.

maybe i need to relearn protocol and start over. but there's one thing i refuse to be...and that is a doormat.




cloudboy -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 6:55:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: satanschild

Anyone have relationship problems


Funny, I've been reading these boards for a while now, and I haven't come across anyone at all with relationship problems. This group would literally put Dr. Phil out of business. Its just my humble opinion, but, as a rule, F's like guys who like themselves, and desperation, unfortunately, is a form of self loathing. You're in a bit of a catch-22.

Anyway, here's the best advice I've seen on this topic:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_255454/mpage_1/key_akasha/tm.htm#255458




cloudboy -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 6:56:22 AM)


O, and that screename, that's really gonna reel'em in.....




Sensualips -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 2:49:45 PM)

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Funny, I've been reading these boards for a while now, and I haven't come across anyone at all with relationship problems. This group would literally put Dr. Phil out of business.


Hahahahahhaha. Where are these boards you read?




MHOO314 -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 3:33:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sensualips

quote:

Funny, I've been reading these boards for a while now, and I haven't come across anyone at all with relationship problems. This group would literally put Dr. Phil out of business.


Hahahahahhaha. Where are these boards you read?



cloudboy has an awesome dry deadpan delivery--




veronicaofML -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 3:49:18 PM)

Anyone have relationship problems that intensify the urge and desire to submit.
========

i'll give a semi intelligent answer...or attempt to.
relationship problems, that intensify, the urge to submit?

yes and no.

yes;
because vanilla broads are seriously warped into believing only bad boys are worthwhile and then bitch when they get the shit kicked out of em./


no;
because "I" am not now, never have been, and never going to be, in, any, :"relationship" romantically in this lifestyle.

does THIS help?





LadyJulieAnn -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 4:31:48 PM)

I've spoken with a male sub who I believe was experiencing the same feelings that you are, satanschild. He always shared with me that he felt he was to blame for his relationship issues and that he often wanted to give up total control during the times when things were especially tough. It made sense to me. Giving up control takes away the responsibility of making decisions that can be viewed as "bad" by one's partner. Being punished and humiliated by a woman somehow redeems him. He has now paid for his mistakes.

I don't necessarily think it's the best way to deal with your relationship issues, but I understand where you are coming from. You seem to have a good understanding of why you seek out particular things, so perhaps you can make some positive changes and still enjoy submission.

Be well,
Julie




MyCaptainsPet -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 4:37:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: satanschild

Anyone have relationship problems that intensify the urge and desire to submit. I'm thinking they are a coming from sense of loss of control and need to punish myself for the mistakes I have made. I seek humilliation, being abused and used any way the dominate feels fit in doing. Sometimes the thought of forced bi sex is very appealling. Any commints.


Satanschild


Yes, i do feel this way sometimes. But, i find its mostly when i'm feeling unsure or unstable in some area of my life.. (work, family, etc) i get the urge and desire to submit more then because it centers me and gives me the footing i need to get thru what is bothering me.




justheather -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 4:53:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: satanschild

Anyone have relationship problems that intensify the urge and desire to submit. I'm thinking they are a coming from sense of loss of control and need to punish myself for the mistakes I have made. I seek humilliation, being abused and used any way the dominate feels fit in doing. Sometimes the thought of forced bi sex is very appealling. Any commints.


Satanschild


I wouldnt say that "relationship problems" compell me to submit.

But, I would say that when issues arise in our relationship and my partner consistently approaches them in a manner that is wise and fair, taking into account my emotions as well as pointing out the rational analysis of whatever issue is taking hold of me at that given time...when he consistently proves to me again and again in his response to potential "relationship issues" that he is wise, intelligent, thoughtful and brave...I get a sense of smallness and of even more adoration for him that it does compell me to want even more to submit to him and to outwardly symbolize that submission through some act or posture so that he understands that not only have I heard him, but that I see the wisdom in his words and appreciate oh so much that wisdom, thoughtfulness and bravery and that he applies them to me with such care and devotion.

Not sure if that touches on what you asked, or if it even makes sense to anyone else, but it is a distinct phenomenon that I am aware of as it occurs. It's such a wonderful, humbling feeling.

Perhaps more along the lines of what you are asking, when I have disappointed him or disobeyed, it does feel good to be able to perform some act of penance.




cloudboy -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 6:53:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: justheather
when issues arise in our relationship and my partner consistently approaches them in a manner that is wise and fair, taking into account my emotions as well as pointing out the rational analysis of whatever issue is taking hold of me at that given time...when he consistently proves to me again and again in his response to potential "relationship issues" that he is wise, intelligent, thoughtful and brave...I get a sense of smallness and of even more adoration for him that it does compell me to want even more to submit to him and to outwardly symbolize that submission through some act or posture so that he understands that not only have I heard him, but that I see the wisdom in his words and appreciate oh so much that wisdom, thoughtfulness and bravery and that he applies them to me with such care and devotion.


This is really true and I am completely blessed in the same capacity. Its just really wonderous when a relationship clicks AND you can count on your Domme to be a good "lead." I don't find that I get a sense of "smallness," though, instead I have a kind of faith, admiration, and trust in my Mistress. These things have been quite important because in my relationship to her I've had to navigate completely new emotional, relational, and self concept territorries --- and as you can imagine there's plenty of rocks in them-there high seas. So, not only have I steered clear of the rocks, but instead of feeling "smallness," I feel I've been "broadened." In my book, this is the highest compliment anyone can pay to a relationship.





fastlane -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 7:02:38 PM)

Satan's child, you are asking for Hell and you will be happy in it .with a screen name like that..LOL..
geesh, get a grip...Seek and ye shall find, whether it is humiliation, punishment, or love?
Plenty of Sadist on this site and plenty of people who will ask, WTF?
Why all the confusion?
My point is, to thine ownself be true.....follow your instincts!

Peace, Kevin




justheather -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 7:37:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

This is really true and I am completely blessed in the same capacity. Its just really wonderous when a relationship clicks AND you can count on your Domme to be a good "lead." I don't find that I get a sense of "smallness," though, instead I have a kind of faith, admiration, and trust in my Mistress. These things have been quite important because in my relationship to her I've had to navigate completely new emotional, relational, and self concept territorries --- and as you can imagine there's plenty of rocks in them-there high seas. So, not only have I steered clear of the rocks, but instead of feeling "smallness," I feel I've been "broadened." In my book, this is the highest compliment anyone can pay to a relationship.

I guess I should clarify that "smallness" is a way I describe my particular place in our D/s dynamic. It is a term I used to describe a very particular sense that is specific to our relationship. It does not preclude or exclude my capacity to grow in the relationship, as you described above....it is a positive feeling. I should have been more clear. Thanks so much for your feedback and validation.




LisaLace -> RE: Desires to submit are overwhelming.... (1/30/2006 7:49:43 PM)

Abuse? Hell no! But humility is a good thing :)




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